Haven’t caught up with this thread since the game started but can anyone summarise the excuses used by the top Rs to absolve ETH of any criticism today?
I’m sure there are some belters.
I’m sure there are some belters.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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These are the league stats since the League Cup Win back in February 2023. This is our long term form under Ten Hag. It's shocking and has been for so, so, SO fecking long.
Win % | Loss % | Games | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts | Pts P Game |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
49.09% | 36.36% | 55 | 27 | 8 | 20 | 76 | 78 | -2 | 89 | 1.62 |
Sorry - that doesn't work anymore
Stop making these ridiculous excuses. There's a 32yo in his first job in top flight football gone into Brighton and got them playing well and picking up points.
You don't need a perfect squad with perfect players in every position to resemble a half-capable football team
That’s a nonsense stat. Watching the game they clearly had more opportunities to score than us
He's had a full 2 years and we still look awful. Give me one good reason that he should stay. His transfers and the way we play is awful.
The Anthony signing, the seven against Liverpool and the 8th place finish last season should have been enough to sack him.
After the Brighton defeat where Brighton had the better xg it was bandied that xg is a shit stat.
There was a thread started on here not long ago claiming we have our most balanced squad in over a decade.
It's really not a bad squad. Yeah it's not title winning material, but it's a hell of a lot better than Erik Ten Hag is making it look. Loads of managers would love to work with it.
Szobozlai passing up an open goal to try and rub it in doesn't even get recorded in stats like that, along with all the other breaks they wasted without a shot.
Irrespective of our thoughts, he'll get until Xmas at least. If they didn't replace the coaching staff around him they'd probably be more ruthless. But with a new backroom team and open commitment to Ten Hag with a year extension, I think they'll give it a while longer. Of course poor play and poor results is not sustainable now.
I will put my foot through the TV if he comes on again talking about how well we played after another battering by them lot.
How long does this go on before the trigger is pulled , it i when now and not if , only a matter of time.
How long does this go on before the trigger is pulled , it i when now and not if , only a matter of time.
No harm in a caretaker just don't give them the actual job this time. It's stupid to allow ETH to continue
Winning the FA cup was a poision chalice. Third season, hundreds of millions spent on dross and we are still as bad if not worse than what Ole delivered
we're still doing this? wow
Genuinely unacceptable. A year and a half of this shite.
He mainly uses a 4231.
I sent the message below in another thrread.
We must admit that Liverpool is a very well run club. The way they replaced one of the best managers of all time with ease is super impressive. Their succession plan is perfect.
Meanwhile, we are struggling to replace a manager that finished 8th who can't coach defence, midfield or attack. Let that sink in
We must admit that Liverpool is a very well run club. The way they replaced one of the best managers of all time with ease is super impressive. Their succession plan is perfect.
Meanwhile, we are struggling to replace a manager that finished 8th who can't coach defence, midfield or attack. Let that sink in
Tuchel
Zidane
Conceicao
Potter
Xavi
Allegri
Are all without jobs currently.
Wouldn’t want some of them, but they are all orders of magnitude better than Ten Hag. I think people are underestimating just how bad Ten Hag is. He’s literally without a clue.
FA cup saved him when it was clear he was useless. Think it speaks volumes that the sack/keep poll was 50/50 at the end of last season. You lot are/were as deluded as the Ole fans and as fickle as the wind. I wanted Ten Hag at the beginning, difference is I know when to call it quits and I’ve wanted him gone since last year
I think INEOS get rid very soon.
Can this be pinned?
Perfectly in line with last season. No surprise and no worse than usual
Only thing this proves is how pointless xG is. The eye test says Liverpool battered us and should have scored more.
I just want him gone.
ETH does need to be sacked. He will not change formation. He will not play different tactics. He will not change. It's insanity continuing with this.
No, we aren't a 3 at the back side. I personally despise a back 5, it's productive but too pragmatic. If Ten Hag changes I'd rather another punt at a progressive coach.
Three games in... to his third season in charge. It isn't a clean slate. He finished 8th (EIGHTH) last season, just in case it slipped your mind.
Tuchel has played multiple different formations depending on which club he's been at and what players he's had. Out of all the managers out there he's one of the least wedded to a specific formation.
We didn't give ourselves a chance with Casemiros little period of madness.
You have no chance in the harder games when that happens.
Hilariously it was 3 shots on target each!
Worst manger post Ferguson other than Moyes. Sure he won two cups so in that way he is better than a few others but just look at how shit we actually are and he is for sure worse.
"It's only three games"
"Ugarte wasn't available"
"We were dominating until they scored"
"Individual mistakes" / "it's not ETH's fault [player] did something dumb"
Is Zidane even interesting in managing? Heard he's taken up pottery.
The xG stats on Sky were somewhat different. At any rate, that stat is an appalling way to look at progression when you can clearly see how open we were today.
Do you really think it's a knee jerk reaction having a terrible start to the season after finishing 8th last year?
Yes, we are responsible for board decision. 1st season never happened and you are the smartest.
The poll will change if we beat Southampton in a few weeks. Too many fickle fans here
Sincerely posting xG stats after that is absolutely tragic.
The 17 people who voted to keep ETH... wth man..
All this shows me is that we're unable to take our chances. Something that's been a problem for a couple of seasons and yet to be rectified by our manager.
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