lex talionis
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It’s pretty clear now ETH is gunning for the sack.
It’s pretty clear now ETH is gunning for the sack.
I disagree. I don't think talent wise we are as good as City, Arsenal or Pool. But outside of those 3 talent wise on paper we are as better than other teams. You can argue Chelsea squad is better but its not a huge gap.We should be right out side the top 3. We are playing at 40 % capacity of what the team is capable of. A big reason is the coaching. We don't have a proper plan so we revert back to defensive counter attack. And defensively we are not organized either, so our midfield gets played right through. Another reason is belief. I honestly think a lot of these players subconsciously have given up on being elite. I don't think any of these players belief we can be the UTD of old. You can see it with some of the senior players who have been here a long time. Fernandes isn't playing at the level he used when he first signed. When he first came in there was a confidence a swagger and now that's gone. When you don't belief you can succeed at the highest level, your expectations go down, then your standards go down and finally your effort goes down. This is the process new signing take when they came here.Our standards are different now. We are a mid table team. Doesn’t make Ten Hag’s comments valid but the reality is that we are average and are hoping our storied legacy keeps the cash flowing.
The real losers in this entire debacle are us fans.
If Ineos still don't sack him, he will need to call Jose and get some tips on how to get sack and payout.It’s pretty clear now ETH is gunning for the sack.
Grass is greenETH has spent £600m and the majority of players brought in are ones he knows.
He said that before the game. If I was Jose I'd rip him a new one!He just said Mourinho and I have won a lot of trophies
Man really thinks hes on Mourinho's level
That's a serious disrespect to Moyes.Dutch Moyes. He's clueless.
And moyes wouldn’t have been able to do anything with Ajax. Not defending ETH but he won us 2 trophies. Moyes didn’t win us 1 so comparing the 2 is a bit strange.That's a serious disrespect to Moyes.
He wouldn't be able to replicate anything Moyes did with Westham or Everton, would be complaining about injuries/squad not being good enough.
He is De boer level. I would be very surprised if he gets any job in the top 5 leagues after this.
He want the sack and he should never have been allowed to start the season - lets just please end it for all our sakes.Playing Mazaroui has to be pisstake surely. He is daring the board to sack him. All he needed to do today was to play Eriksen at 10 and play Ugarte and Casemiro in Central midfield. Or Play Amad or Zirkzee there.
He mentions how Antony deserves a chance due to his training performance but fails to mention how Zirkzee who is serving trash is getting a start while likes of Amad hasnt seen a single minute in last 3 games.
At this point is better to get rid because his team management would lead to more discontent and results most likely wont improve
Oh, he's actually serious. Incredible.
what does 'wanting to win every match' have to do with saying we are 'hard to beat' ? You can absolutely take the latter and laugh at it and the former doesn't make it any better.He may be. But you can’t leave details about him talking about“wanting to win every match”, and embellish the other points to drive the narrative.
Post it all. Or don’t post. Bad as the fecking mainstream media.
Arguably Van Gaal. He took us from 7th to 6th before he got sacked and also won an FA cup whilst instilling a clear style of play and structure to our football. Problem is we appointed someone with a completely different style of football to succeed him.Did any of our managers post Fergie leave United in better shape then they found it?
Oh, he's actually serious. Incredible.
Have you seen his style of play before?I don’t know why we don’t go for Simeone now, he’s available, wants to manager in England, he’s mentioned a few times this summer his time at athletics is coming to an end and he wants a fresh challenge
I don’t know why we don’t go for Simeone now, he’s available, wants to manager in England, he’s mentioned a few times this summer his time at athletics is coming to an end and he wants a fresh challenge
I see your point but isn’t that the problem? ETH isn’t going anywhere and that’s the calibre of managers we’re keeping at the club. I’d say more often than not mid table clubs have made better managerial choices than us. We have quality players but we aren’t a quality team.I disagree. I don't think talent wise we are as good as City, Arsenal or Pool. But outside of those 3 talent wise on paper we are as better than other teams. You can argue Chelsea squad is better but its not a huge gap.We should be right out side the top 3. We are playing at 40 % capacity of what the team is capable of. A big reason is the coaching. We don't have a proper plan so we revert back to defensive counter attack. And defensively we are not organized either, so our midfield gets played right through. Another reason is belief. I honestly think a lot of these players subconsciously have given up on being elite. I don't think any of these players belief we can be the UTD of old. You can see it with some of the senior players who have been here a long time. Fernandes isn't playing at the level he used when he first signed. When he first came in there was a confidence a swagger and now that's gone. When you don't belief you can succeed at the highest level, your expectations go down, then your standards go down and finally your effort goes down. This is the process new signing take when they came here.
UTD need a new manager with new approach. A big reason I wanted ETH out because it was a chance to reset everything. INEOS could have gone to all the players, forget what's happened previously lets start a fresh like you have signed for a new club. But we kept same manager, same atmosphere. We need something to break the club as a whole out of this rut and inject belief that we can win again. Maybe that's a tall ask for any new manager. But couple that with smart signings and that could be the jolt that's needed. Its beyond a tall ask to expect ETH to turn this around. It's not just tactically he has to do it. Mentality wise he has to do it as well. And people and motivation and man management is clearly not strong skill he has.
There’s no way we would’ve beat Panathinaikos 1-4 away from home too. Not a chance.We were so happy to reach the Europa league..
The Conference would have been much closer to our level. Even we would be able to get 3 points against Larne, St Gallen, Omonia, Backa topola
Oh behave, we won last week... so therefore, there is no negatives to talk about this man...Under Ole we still had standards, under Ole we never went into games against West Ham thinking we'd lose. Now all standards are gone. EtH has successfully reduced us to an average team that celebrates mediocrity. A draw away at Fener isn't the problem, it's what it represents alongside a long line of mediocre performances. If to say we were 3rd in the table and playing great football and went away to Porto and Fener and drew, most of us would let it slide, tough away games but not now. We are so bad, those away draws are the highlight of our season.
Last season was supposed to be the free hit ffs. We threw away that season when he was supposed to be sacked in early December.This season is a free hit for them. All the blame can go on ETH when they do pull the trigger and they’ll justify it because he was the previous regimes choice.
We can only hope that whoever they have in mind is worth tanking the season over.
Did any of our managers post Fergie leave United in better shape then they found it?
Hectic Ambience, sounds like a Brian Eno album
Nope. The last 3 permanent managers wasted a tonne of time and money, leaving a mess behind.
Is this true? We have been horrendous, but 13 defeats out of 30 sounds even worse.'hard to beat' ? We've lost 13 out of the last 30. That's almost half our fecking games.
He's literally taking the piss out of the fanbase with his quotes.