Valencia Shin Crosses
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All things considered, probably the worst manager we’ve ever had.
No, in the context of the conversation it means nothing. Questions: Does ETH merit being sacked? Obviously yes. Does INEOS not sacking him mean he doesn't merit being sacked? No, obviously not. Is it extremely worrying that INEOS don't find the last 18 odd month sack worthy? Yes, obvioulsy.
Because of the new management/owner. As I said before , Glazers would have launched him last season. This lot are different and they seem to try reaching decisions collectively, and thete appears to be a lack of consensus on sacking him. I am certain Ratcliffe would like him out.How else can you explain the fact that ten Hag is as comfortable as can be here? All of our previous managers this past decade were sacked for much less. It's different now.
He’s got them where he wants them.
It's certainly extinguished a lot of hope that I had with INEOS.
How they can sit there and watch us every game and not think he should be sacked is at this point just gross negligence. It's like they know sacking him so soon after giving him a new contract is a bit embarrassing, so even though it's the right thing to do for the Club they don't want to admit it.
They're willing for us to completely trash a season to avoid looking a bit silly.
They probably find them good enough, hence why he’s so confident and keeps talking about how successful he’s been and how everything is going according to the plan. He’s got them where he wants them.
I actually admire those of you who have the capacity to reset and treat every match anew; for me, we've just been pissing the season away from the moment it was clear he should be sacked and every subsequent match is just a contribution to the writing off of yet another season.
I don't know how you're not numb, or, if you are surprised per game, how that is possible.
This job is so far beyond him it's not even worth remonstrating about by now. It's absolutely alarming that those who are supposed to be coming in to fix everything are contributing willfully to biggest capitulation I have seen whilst supporting this club. You absolutely cannot compare this to any placing of Fergie's when fixing the inner workings - this is a manager unravelling the fabric of what we are at every turn, getting worse and worse and worse, and being allowed to do so.
We're an absolute shambles and if this continues for the whole season, young talent here will be within their right to want out.
I actually admire those of you who have the capacity to reset and treat every match anew; for me, we've just been pissing the season away from the moment it was clear he should be sacked and every subsequent match is just a contribution to the writing off of yet another season.
I don't know how you're not numb, or, if you are surprised per game, how that is possible.
This job is so far beyond him it's not even worth remonstrating about by now. It's absolutely alarming that those who are supposed to be coming in to fix everything are contributing willfully to biggest capitulation I have seen whilst supporting this club. You absolutely cannot compare this to any placing of Fergie's when fixing the inner workings - this is a manager unravelling the fabric of what we are at every turn, getting worse and worse and worse, and being allowed to do so.
We're an absolute shambles and if this continues for the whole season, young talent here will be within their right to want out.
Erik ten Hag only merits being sacked if he's failing to meet the expectations set of him.No, in the context of the conversation it means nothing. Questions: Does ETH merit being sacked? Obviously yes. Does INEOS not sacking him mean he doesn't merit being sacked? No, obviously not. Is it extremely worrying that INEOS don't find the last 18 odd month sack worthy? Yes, obvioulsy.
This is surely a joke??
Most of the players he has brought ars shit, lets be honest. His most expensive doesn't even get a game.I can understand keeping him just because most of our players are now his own, it’s Ten Hag’s squad. We obviously haven’t gotten the results or performances this season, though. I can’t see how he can last until after Christmas if we keep going down this same path.
Real would have sacked him early last seasonOld Trafford needs to turn on him if anything is going to happen. It won't happen, but any big club like real Madrid would have driven him out months ago.
If he isn’t sacked by January then I’ll be surprised.
Erik ten Hag only merits being sacked if he's failing to meet the expectations set of him.
To us fans, he is failing, but we don't matter. To the board who apparently have lower standards, he's seemingly meeting the expectations set, so he's justifiably keeping his position.
This season is a free hit for them. All the blame can go on ETH when they do pull the trigger and they’ll justify it because he was the previous regimes choice.
We can only hope that whoever they have in mind is worth tanking the season over.
If this is the mentality...
I have no idea when he will be sacked now. It feels like we'd have to go on a long losing streak for it to happen? Even a couple of losses followed by a draw seems like it will keep this dragging on.
I'm agreeing with you. I would have sacked ten Hag a long time ago. It's the board that don't think these performances merit a sacking, and that's unfortunately what matters. If they did, there would be at least some pressure on him, but he's seemingly as comfortable as can be so he must be meeting their expectations in what they want in a manager right now.This is such a weird interaction. We clearly have very different interpretations of the word merit. Does ETH merit being sacked as the manager of Manchester United? Yes, several times over. That's it really. If our owners are incompetent idiots then we're absolutely fecked.
I have no idea when he will be sacked now. It feels like we'd have to go on a long losing streak for it to happen? Even a couple of losses followed by a draw seems like it will keep this dragging on.
What I’ve been saying for a while. The way he’s played our entire board, supposedly experienced, seasoned veterans, is nothing short of magnificent. For this I actually admire him, very few people are capable of this and no managers that I know of have ever done this.He's like some sort of wizard, just not in the sense that he can get results.
Our job is to stand by our manager no matter what. That is apparently the untouchable United doctrine.How this guy doesn’t get booed at old Trafford is beyond me. We really do have the most passive fans in the world.
100% thisI actually admire those of you who have the capacity to reset and treat every match anew; for me, we've just been pissing the season away from the moment it was clear he should be sacked and every subsequent match is just a contribution to the writing off of yet another season.
I don't know how you're not numb, or, if you are surprised per game, how that is possible.
This job is so far beyond him it's not even worth remonstrating about by now. It's absolutely alarming that those who are supposed to be coming in to fix everything are contributing willfully to biggest capitulation I have seen whilst supporting this club. You absolutely cannot compare this to any placing of Fergie's when fixing the inner workings - this is a manager unravelling the fabric of what we are at every turn, getting worse and worse and worse, and being allowed to do so.
We're an absolute shambles and if this continues for the whole season, young talent here will be within their right to want out.
We'd be 32nd in EL and 17th in the PL if Onana wasn’t in this form21st in the EL and 12th in the PL
Or Maybe OT seriously booing and turning on him ? So far he's been shielding, the petitions have given the impression he is actually loved.I honestly think it would take 4 or 5 defeats on the bounce. A few defeats that are broken up by a jammy win or scraping a draw seems to be good enough for him to keep his job.
I'm agreeing with you. I would have sacked ten Hag a long time ago. It's the board that don't think these performances merit a sacking, and that's unfortunately what matters. If they did, there would be at least some pressure on him, but he's seemingly as comfortable as can be so he must be meeting their expectations if what they want in a manager right now.
Only a few of us know the meaning of hectic ambience. It's hard to be a genius at times.erm what?
Or he'd move loads of Dutch food in, make it look like a Lidle or some shitHe’d stick random loaves of bread in the meat aisle and the shelves in the middle of the aisles would be empty.
Or Maybe OT seriously booing and turning on him ? So far he's been shielding, the petitions have given the impression he is actually loved.