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Lights on for Luke
The turd that won't flush kinda vibesHe will fluke a win over Villa just to prolong it won’t he
Feck, it's depressing how negative i've become - and the season's barely started.
The turd that won't flush kinda vibesHe will fluke a win over Villa just to prolong it won’t he
Playing for time I reckon. Get a plan together and source a replacement, sack him during the internationals and don’t be accused of being knee jerk. They’ve only just “renewed” his contract or whatever it was.If you've reached the point where you're giving him two games (Porto and Villa) to save his job you should probably sack him. Why would two results make a difference? You get rid of someone based on a long period of results, so two more won't change anything.
It really wasn't easy voicing a concern because he was so popular at the time.And got mercilessly attacked for it.
Not saying I've been ETH out since then but concerns are concerns and the football has been suspect since before the league cup win.
They should already have a list of candidates ready to go. It's worrying if they don't.Playing for time I reckon. Get a plan together and source a replacement, sack him during the internationals and don’t be accused of being knee jerk. They’ve only just “renewed” his contract or whatever it was.
Weghorst stinking up the starting XI game after game is when alarm bells started ringing in my head, although I didn't fully turn against ETH until a few games into the disastrous CL campaign last season.Spot on. Basically since Wout became a regular fixture
Maybe, whether those on that list will come and what they want is another matter.They should already have a list of candidates ready to go. It's worrying if they don't.
I'm in such a bad mood today. feck sake United, make a fecking good decision for once.
He's getting these two games because the results will magically change. The players he wanted will suddenly start playing well together. They'll suddenly start to understand how the feck Ten Hag wants them to play. They'll suddenly make this whole "headless chicken, fullbacks turn into CMs, CFs into wingers and AMs, AMs into strikers" work so we're suddenly not leaving massive holes where players are climbing on top of one another because nobody knows what the feck is going on. They'll suddenly start seeing the manager make reactive tactical changes when things start going wrong, instead of just sitting there going "heheheheh klootzak" and waving his hands around like an animatronic at some bankrupt theme park called "Arsehead Land".If you've reached the point where you're giving him two games (Porto and Villa) to save his job you should probably sack him. Why would two results make a difference? You get rid of someone based on a long period of results, so two more won't change anything.
Well, seems like players who have done it has had quite the careers elsewhere, sad for us as United fans in som cases. But in this scenario, there must be som kind of player council who can speak as a group?Because their United career would be over. To our fans, a player going against the manager is the greatest crime one can commit in football - even more outrageous than sacking the manager.
Listening to the Athletic podcast, Mitten thinks he's gone. Says this is the worst it's been under Ten Hag, he's got no excuses anymore, and he's 'seen this movie before' with Ole, LVG, and Jose.
I fear our reputational damage and missing out in European football would be more expensive in the long run...
Nothing to do with panic. We need to get results and not try to posture while we throw the season away.The club desperately needs leadership and not panic. I don’t think Eric is the man for the job anymore, it seems to me like he lacks the gravitas to give the players belief, but sacking him now would be a bad move. We need calm, focused leadership at the top of the club. It may have been the wrong decision to keep him in the summer but it would be compounded by sacking him without an alternative lined up. Ignore the noise and get to the international break.
Hopefully enough for the Glazers to force INEOS to make a decision before they miss out on their dividend.How much would we lose it we do not get any European football next season and he does not win a domestic cup?
There's no dividends for 3 years.Hopefully enough for the Glazers to force INEOS to make a decision before they miss out on their dividend.
Villa are absolutely flying; Villa Park is becoming a cauldron; once they smell blood there, they go for the throat with a ferocity few in the league can match.
I have no idea where the romanticised notion we can go there and a fluke a result is coming from. Even keeping the score down sounds fanciful; I’d have it down as a potential humiliation with a cricket score conclusion if they aren’t looking past us to the next game(s) once we’re walking dead.
If they go at us full throttle from start to finish and don’t take their foot off the pedal, well… take your guess at what the final score might be. The key is scoring a goal or two early. If they do that, we’ll give up.
United continue to surprise me with their silliness. If I’m giving them credit though - maybe it’s to give themselves a week to figure out a plan for post-Villa. And then let the caretaker start on a home match against Brentford rather than throw him in for two tricky away matches.If you've reached the point where you're giving him two games (Porto and Villa) to save his job you should probably sack him. Why would two results make a difference? You get rid of someone based on a long period of results, so two more won't change anything.
I’d say you’re one of the most positive posters even now, my elevator friend. I keep typing things and then cringing about it 5 mins later. This form is messing with meThe turd that won't flush kinda vibes
Feck, it's depressing how negative i've become - and the season's barely started.
This is ridiculous. Why are there no performance clauses in manager contracts? Being a football manager is one of the few jobs where you get paid millions for doing a poor job.
Public backing now from Ineos - there’s clearly a lot going on from an operations perspective they want to get done before they pull the trigger on a new manager
Feck, not even the Glazers can be the voice of reason in all this mess.There's no dividends for 3 years.
They better have a plan, that's all I'll say.Becoming a complete laughing stock in the football world seems to be at the top of their list, sadly.
My concern is we’ll get rid of him and nothing will change. A lot of our bad play is down to players mentality and commitment, Rashford pulling out of that 50/50 is a prime example, he’s been like this under numerous managers. I think the squad is still too fragile. The next manager needs to be able to light a fire under the players arses.
I doubt they give a moments thought to all the media that hangs around us like a bad smell.Becoming a complete laughing stock in the football world seems to be at the top of their list, sadly.
Yeah, I changed my vote to EtH out 2/3 into last season - having sat on that fence for quite a while leading up to that point. Then he miraculously survived his end of season review, having won the FA Cup (should have been a good "send off" for him actually when Ineos should have fired him and a clean start for everyone after that point etc.)....United continue to surprise me with their silliness. If I’m giving them credit though - maybe it’s to give themselves a week to figure out a plan for post-Villa. And then let the caretaker start on a home match against Brentford rather than throw him in for two tricky away matches.
I’d say you’re one of the most positive posters even now, my elevator friend. I keep typing things and then cringing about it 5 mins later. This form is messing with me
Aye, I'm fecking fuming. This absolute piss take has gone on for around 18 months now.
There's nothing admirable about sticking with a bad decision my friend.I'm giving him till the New Year because i said I would. But it's really not looking good.
If you've reached the point where you're giving him two games (Porto and Villa) to save his job you should probably sack him. Why would two results make a difference? You get rid of someone based on a long period of results, so two more won't change anything.
I fear our reputational damage and missing out in European football would be more expensive in the long run...
This is why he won’t be touched. I reckon they will write this season off, let his contract expire and perhaps already have a plan for next year
And Mitten has been backing him for a long time even last season. When Andy think's your time is up you know it's a dire situation.