We’re fcked
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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I am sick and tired of this. You cannot be in the 3rd year of your tenure and be under pressure every 3rd game.
Regardless of what happens in the next two games, we have seen enough in the first 7/8 games to understand that he is not going to improve us. He has a good squad to chose from, we are no different to how we were last season with the injuries when facing a semi decent team.
No other team gets absolutely dominated by Spurs at home, that should not happen. Period.
Losing 3-0 to teams that are around you at home on a regular shows lack of coaching.
Teflon Ten Hag.
I put a lot of money on wins for Porto and Aston Villa.
The club doesn't care about ambition therefore i put money above my love for the club.
The club doesn't care about ambition therefore i put money above my love for the club.
This reads massively that he’s gone after the Porto & Villa games. The international break coming up gives them the perfect opportunity to get it done.
Yep, we've seen this song and dance before. The fans that aren't suckered in by the odd result here and there can see what will happen. Some will claim they can see this will happen, but then when it happens they will start making excuses for him again and ask for more time. It's like purgatory for those of us who think with our heads and not our hearts, because you can see it coming a mile off, whilst the rest of the lemmings walk off that same cliff once again after being warned.
My least expectation is to see is progress. It means I want to see more consistency in playing good football. So far, he hasn’t done it. I can take some positivity in defeat or draw if we play good football with pattern and identity like the Palace’s game last week but yesterday show that we still have inconsistency in our football. We were outplayed in Old Trafford before the red card. I won’t change my vote to sack now but he has shown no progress this season. I won’t be surprised if the board already began to have internal conversation about sacking him and hiring new manager.
At this point it’s wasting potential points and time sticking with him for another game. He’s not the one and 99 percent of people have made their peace with that fact.
I do agree, it is a daft situation and it doesn't lend itself to any buy in from the players knowing that ETH is hanging by a thread. I can only assume there's some logic we're not privy to in waiting for the break rather than throwing him out right now, ie busy period, schedules already set, etc...
Unless we're that strapped for PSR wiggle room that we can't afford the admin fee to change ETH's name on the plane ticket to Portugal I'm at odds to explain it.
Yeah it's exactly what @TsuWave is saying our matchgoing fans will never give managers the Real Madrid treatment, instead they prefer to still clap people off and sing in defiance
Porto aren't all that though. Villa are, which says a lot about Emery and Ten Hag if you compare what each have achieved and with what fundings
Yeah it's just time to go.
I'd like to see a cull of the problem players too and give the new manager the opportunity to reshape the dressing room, no matter how big the egos are that would be disrupted or sold.
I'd like to see a cull of the problem players too and give the new manager the opportunity to reshape the dressing room, no matter how big the egos are that would be disrupted or sold.
Sounds about right. They need some time to get things in motion. Still got a tiny hope we sack him before or after the Porto game.
Ehh, what difference does two games even make? What if he wins them both and then proceeds to lose to Brentford after the break anyways? Feels like the sort of thing they say so they can sort a replacement in the background.
The hope is it will a bit like Berrada where no one knew we were getting him until later on.
The hope is it will a bit like Berrada where no one knew we were getting him until later on.
Aye, can't see the benefit in hanging on to him at all.
I don't understand why we would wait to sack him, we literally have 2 other Dutch managers at the club behind him, it's not like we'd be exposed. We're playing wank anyway, what's another 2 games of floundering at this point?
I like Erik as a bloke, I think he's tried his best to implement and build a team capable of playing well. Whether the players aren't listening or aren't capable is a big part of it, and sadly, both of them reflect badly on Erik.
Sadly it's come to the point now that he's under pressure and regardless of how we do from now on, he's only ever 1 bad result away from more pressure piling on. At that point, it's better to just get rid and look for a new manager.
Sadly it's come to the point now that he's under pressure and regardless of how we do from now on, he's only ever 1 bad result away from more pressure piling on. At that point, it's better to just get rid and look for a new manager.
But we didn’t sack Fergie and then he won everything! So we just have to do the same again here!
The board seems to be buying time to get a replacement in order. ETH will get a handsome pay off which may or may not further impact our financial situation.
Now I know you are on the wind up
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I argued with some friends at the end of the season that you could make the case for him both staying and being sacked. There were mitigating circustances last year with injuries and the Greenwood situation leaving us a striker light however a good coach would adapt his tactics like he somehow managed to do for the cup final.
His continued use of favoured players, despite the state of their performances, seems to be causing disharmony in the squad now too.
Im now fed up of him and the complete nonsense he keeps spouting in interviews and press conferences along with his arrogance. He seems to accept no responsibilty for the shit he has been serving up since the league cup final win 18mths ago or that disasterous Champions league campaign. 18 months of complete and utter shite football along with millions and millions more spent.
Piss on our backs all you like ETH but dont tell us its raining.
His continued use of favoured players, despite the state of their performances, seems to be causing disharmony in the squad now too.
Im now fed up of him and the complete nonsense he keeps spouting in interviews and press conferences along with his arrogance. He seems to accept no responsibilty for the shit he has been serving up since the league cup final win 18mths ago or that disasterous Champions league campaign. 18 months of complete and utter shite football along with millions and millions more spent.
Piss on our backs all you like ETH but dont tell us its raining.
They still could have put Ruud in charge just for the trips to Porto and Villa but didn't have the guts
It's a nonsense to give him the next two games as others have said. So say we fluke one and lose win, so he stays. Seriously? What does that achieve.
Yeah I was wondering the same. I mean, we’ve hit rock bottom so why not take a punt on Ruud as interim
Why would Brailsford be the one making the decision?
Pics or it didn’t happen.
How would I know. I just wanted to say dithering Dave
Apparently we concede 3+ goals every 5 games under him.
It really is pointless. If he wins the next 2 and we sack him it would look weird. Sack him now.
Ha! People actually believing we win any of the next 2. He is definitely gone. I cannot see him winning any of the next 5.
Sure. we would have lost but for the Rashford goal also. You will pull a muscle reaching this far to claim he won us the FA cup
His position is untenable.
Oh yeah, for shits and giggles but United have already got the shits and everyone is giggling at us.
Yup....Porto (a), Villa (a), Brentford, Fener (a) & West Ham (a).
The Fener game is the least I am looking forward to. I can bet that Fred will run circles around our midfield and Jose will do everything to embarrass us.
Delaying it ends up with more toxicity or people simply wanting us to lose to allow the inevitable to happen.
If EtH worked in the IT department INEOS would sack him. Failure is only accepted at the management level in the corporate world.
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Sounds like I’m making fun, but the realistic answer is likely that we’ll wait until the next international break. Unless we win the game before it. Then we wait for the one after
My concern is we’ll get rid of him and nothing will change. A lot of our bad play is down to players mentality and commitment, Rashford pulling out of that 50/50 is a prime example, he’s been like this under numerous managers. I think the squad is still too fragile. The next manager needs to be able to light a fire under the players arses.
6 games into the season only Ipswich and Leicester have conceded more chances (xGC) than us. Only Ipswich and Leicester! Our expected goals conceded per game is 2,18, compared to 1,97 last season (...compared to 1,10 and 1,00 in Ole's two full seasons or the 1,49 disaster Ole/Rangnick season). Last season he hid behind injuries. Now he needs time, because apparently the only thing worse than injuries is new players. We score less than a goal a game and sit on less than half the points of our rivals.........., but ETH has no conserns regarding his job.
Imagine managing Manchester United, losing back to back 3-0 at Old Trafford in the Premier League and then say in the post match presser that you have no concerns regarding your position at the club. "We're all in the same boat" "I have no concerns" "We knew it would take some time".
The football we play under him is not just the weakest post Fergie it's probably the weakest since the '74 relegation.
I mean, he should have been sacked sometime last season or at least in the summer, or at least after the Liverpool game, or at least......why does it have to go this far? We are in free fall and it is no point in postponing the inevitable. You don't need a PhD in sports management to see that his project is failing, that he's in over his head and that he doesn't have the tiniest little clue of how to turn this around. You don't even need to have an IQ above 70 or be into football to see it for crying out loud.
Imagine managing Manchester United, losing back to back 3-0 at Old Trafford in the Premier League and then say in the post match presser that you have no concerns regarding your position at the club. "We're all in the same boat" "I have no concerns" "We knew it would take some time".
The football we play under him is not just the weakest post Fergie it's probably the weakest since the '74 relegation.
I mean, he should have been sacked sometime last season or at least in the summer, or at least after the Liverpool game, or at least......why does it have to go this far? We are in free fall and it is no point in postponing the inevitable. You don't need a PhD in sports management to see that his project is failing, that he's in over his head and that he doesn't have the tiniest little clue of how to turn this around. You don't even need to have an IQ above 70 or be into football to see it for crying out loud.
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