No, Zirkzee played centre forward and was replaced by Hojlund, our other centre forward. Do you think Hojlund played on the wing, or Zirkzee wasn’t playing upfront or something?
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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SAF couldn’t crack it at the beginning here too but the club trusted the great man, there’s nothing to suggest ETH can’t follow the same path, too many are overrating and missing the bigger picture.
Ineos made a huge mistake. No doubt about that. If you want to replace someone, it’s over.
I feel like it's coming to a bit of a logger head now.
3rd season, some elements look better and others still the same. We look slightly better going forward compared to last year but no finishing edge. Results are average at best.
Spurs/Porto/Villa next games. That Spurs game gonna be crucial, for once we need both a performance and a result.
3rd season, some elements look better and others still the same. We look slightly better going forward compared to last year but no finishing edge. Results are average at best.
Spurs/Porto/Villa next games. That Spurs game gonna be crucial, for once we need both a performance and a result.
Just sack the guy now and be done with it.
Zirkzee was a false 9, with a dual 10 in Bruno and Eriksen.
After the switch Hojlund and Mount were close centrally, with Ugarte and Mainoo as a 2 behind. There were a few balls fizzed into Mount who was sitting in or on the edge of the box, the exact positions Zirkzee had taken up. A couple hit nicely by Dalot and one missed from Ugarte.
Bruno was out right, Garnacho left, who was quite good there might I add. So I don't think we had some sort of less effective outlet on the left when Rashford was taken off.
His diehard fans creamed themselves after beating Southampton and a League 1 side.
The rest of us knew it was just another of his many false dawns.
Please just sack this incompetent clown already.
The rest of us knew it was just another of his many false dawns.
Please just sack this incompetent clown already.
FML, are you for real. WUM post of the year…decade.
We made them feel alive. And the entire stadium wish they were dead.
Let him see it out. We need this as a big learning moment as a club.
Find it tough to blame the manager when our results are down to Individual mistakes by our players, which are highlighted massively by the fact our attackers can’t finish.
7 played: 3 wins, 2 draws, 2 defeats.
Our opposition has been: Fulham (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H), Southampton (A), Barnsley (H), Palace (A), Twente (H).
Absolutely shocking.
Our opposition has been: Fulham (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H), Southampton (A), Barnsley (H), Palace (A), Twente (H).
Absolutely shocking.
Yeah, the next manager might be another gamble. But surely that's a preferable approach than sticking with the previous gamble that has failed.
Your just blinded by your love for Ten Hag
The whole situation is just really bizarre.
I am ETH out and have been for a while but I do think extending his contract, bringing in a host of new players to then sack him after 5 PL games...I don't know, it just doesn't feel right. It wouldn't be the decision to sack him but the timing of it. Just get rid in the summer rather than giving him another chance with very little time.
Wondering now if we actually have the worst manager in the Prem
wins against Fulham, Southampton and Barnsley - with the Fulham one being a fluke. Alarm bells should be going off
Is there anything to suggest he can?
He’s being sarcastic
Needs to sort this out, he’s running out of excuses
My opinion is taking an attacker off for another attacker is not cowardly.How has it got nothing to do with the manager
This is irrespective of whether it's Ten Hag, Ancelotti, Klopp, Tuchel or fecking Southgate managing us. It's not rocket science.
We probably do. We need to get rid of the Pep Guardiola is my idol now.
Wait a couple of days and there'll be revisionism about the performance - "it was actually a great performance", "we were just unlucky", "we created more chances/xG than the opposition" and "results don't actually matter" from his supporters.
Every match shouldn't be on a knife edge, its all fine margins. He's hired to make us better, and he's failing to do so.
There were once again bad finishing, barely anything created and errors leading to goals, but he selects the team, and his decisions are quite honestly bizarre at times.
Depends on when we sack the fraud
He's right in his assessment, but we didn't really look like getting the second, the entire team was outrageously careless with the ball and we kept giving it back to them with low percentage passes. Eriksen's lapse was awful, but it was a continuation (and in fairness quite an escalation) of a theme that started from the start of the half.
But apparently he told Garnacho to "Defend. Defend. Defend". Though we conceded instantly of course.
last season it was injuries. This season it's 'player mistakes' as if other teams don't have players making mistakes that lead to goals. In-fact, you could argue the majority of goals scored in football are due to players making some kind of mistake. It's such a ridiculous excuse.
Nah, apparently we're the only team where individual mistakes lead to goals being conceded.
He didn't say anything wrong, he just didn't mention his own shortcomings. Which he never does anyway
This has to be the end of the road. We’ve become an international laughingstock.
I know it's very early in the season, but De Zerbi is seemingly off to a bit of a flyer at Marseilles. What the hell happened there? He wanted too much money from us? Seems odd.
Zirkzee didn’t play as a false nine? The other players weren’t playing off him as one, he was playing upfront. Mount didn’t take up his spaces, we had a box midfield with Dalot, Ugarte deep and Eriksen/Bruno, then Mount/Mainoo. Rashford came off which meant Garnacho switched sides, Hojlund replaced Zirkzee and Amad was replaced by Bruno positionally. Hojlunds touches were largely, if not entirely, outside of the box with his back to goal, same as Zirkzee.
To be fair you thought Rashford coming off was an ok decision, which means you're never going to see it how others do, as he was easily one of the most dangerous players for us on the pitch, so taking him off was just strange. It instantly weakened us.
We’ve been that for eleven years and I hate that.
The only pleasure I can take personally is he surely cannot last until December as I feel we are just going to go from bad to worse over the next 10 games or so. I’m also not a believer in keeping someone just because apparently there is no one better out there. Well there certainly can’t be many fecking worse either, thats for sure!
I was already sure we are not getting top 4 or winning the Europa prior to season so I can’t be too upset but just seeing him managing us for over two years now, just really boils my piss!
I was already sure we are not getting top 4 or winning the Europa prior to season so I can’t be too upset but just seeing him managing us for over two years now, just really boils my piss!
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