Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked

[NLunited]

I don't think it's a case of United fans actively wanting Ruud to take over, but more so the plan INEOS have actually put in place, forcing that notion. Who else will genuinely be in line to take over temporarily if ETH continues to shit the bed?

Hake.

 

[The Hilton]

It might have been a gamble once, when "managers" literally ran football clubs, but the whole point of having Wilcox, Ashworth, Berrada, Blanc, Brailsford etc...is that they're the one's running the club...and the manager is "just" a coach.

If McKenna is a better coach than EtH, and I'd say there's strong evidence to suggest he is, then make the swap.

If it doesn't work out...you sack McKenna and appoint the next up and coming young coach...rinse repeat until you land on the right one.

It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.

It isn't that simple though, while our coach isn't going to be forced to do the job of an entire scouting network anymore, there's still a huge amount to the job. For one, they need to command the respect of the dressing room, something that has buried more acclaimed coaches than McKenna here, the best example being Rangnick to whom the squad paid attention to for less than 45 minutes.

There's also the fact that the INEOS regime are going to have a preferred footballing approach, and whether the next up and coming young coach is a good fit for that - if we chop and change between approaches then we won't have chance to get very good at any of them, that kind of approach is one of the biggest contributors to our current predicament. It shouldn't be anywhere near as simple as you're making out, and fortunately I expect the INEOS regime to be acutely aware of that.

I also disagree that there's strong evidence to suggest McKenna is better than Ten Hag at the moment, given the latter has accomplished so much more, and at a much higher level, in his career. McKenna could well get there, but he has 3 matches in total under his belt at the top level, he needs to show he can hang in the PL before there's much of a discussion.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Sounds like a crock of made up bullshit. Especially all that self-contradicting drivel about “style”. But what do you expect when it’s a repost of something’s said by someone who calls themselves “@muppetiers”?

Bunch of Randos acting like they know stuff when it's just something they totally made up!

Posting such non credible sources should be banned here.

 

[Red in STL]

Hake.

What do fish have to with it?

 

[GoodTimes]

It’s Russell Martins turn to add himself to an ever growing list of managers who have absolutely had their way against Ten Hag

 

[ifightdragons]

It's all the media, that hostile, evil media who are on his back despite him being so incredibly successful, winning those two trophies.

...... What?

 

[Oranges038]

What do fish have to with it?

Well ETH has been codding us for 2 years, talking like Utd is one of the minnows trying to knock the big clubs off their perch. Instead he's floundering. It's time for someone to put him in his plaice or better yet, put his head on a pike.

 

[UnitedWA]

Suicide squad today, but if he can't win a team that has 0 points so far...

 

[NLunited]

Suicide squad today, but if he can't win a team that has 0 points so far...

Southampton aren‘t as bad as the results make it look like. I think we will win but it might not be a walk in the park.

 

[Castia]

Questioning his line up….hope he proves me wrong but that midfield is probably getting walked through

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Do Southampton sit off? Or do they press like mad?

Worry about having Eriksen in there if Southampton press him.

 

[NLunited]

Do Southampton sit off? Or do they press like mad?

Worry about having Eriksen in there if Southampton press him.

I think they press. Will be interesting.

 

[KD6-3.7]

Should deservedly be sacked if we lose this match and with his lineup choices looks like he is doing his best to achieve that.

 

[bosnian_red]

I do wonder what's the hypothetical earliest point he could get sacked - what run of results would it take?

 

[Pyro19]

Clown

 

[GreatDane]

Can't figure out if the players have stopped playing for him or our tactics really are this shit.

Either way the next manager is going to look like a frecking genius when our players looks so much better under him.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

I do wonder what's the hypothetical earliest point he could get sacked - what run of results would it take?

I think they always look for the right exit point even if the decision is made eg. After a hard run of games so a new manager doesn't have to come in and face city and arsenal back to back or something

 

[bosnian_red]

I think they always look for the right exit point even if the decision is made eg. After a hard run of games so a new manager doesn't have to come in and face city and arsenal back to back or something

Good point. Our next run before the next international break is:

• Barnsley home
• Palace away
• Twente home
• Spurs home
• Porto away
• Villa away

Those last 3 games are tough, but he's really on last chance territory IMO at pretty much every second so any poor run like that last 3 could spell the end.

 

[gorky_utd]

Please leave.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Just sack him asap. It's getting worse

 

[Shark]

Even if we narrowly win this, INEOS should be looking at yet another first half, in another away fixture we're being absolutely dominated. Against opposition we should have almost total control over.

 

[Suv666]

Even if we narrowly win this, INEOS should be looking at yet another first half, in another away fixture we're being absolutely dominated. Against opposition we should have almost total control over.

Yeah everyone has figured him out
He’s Dutch league quality shouldn’t be anywhere near a top league

 

[Its all gone Shane Long]

He can stare at his little screens when sitting down but he hasn’t a clue. Why oh why can’t he see it.

 

[Atheist]

Most people won’t admit but Oleball was country miles better than this.

 

[SungSam7]

How has this clown managed to get to 18%. This abysmal stuff and there is almost a 1 in 5 wanting him to stay. Surely 1 in 5 on this site is a Liverpool fan....?

 

[In Absentia]

Should deservedly be sacked if we lose this match and with his lineup choices looks like he is doing his best to achieve that.

Drawing shouldn’t get him off either. The first three games were enough to show he’s had his chance. Don’t hate Ten Hag, but last season was just about unforgivable.

 

[Skills]

I still think it'll be counter productive to sack him. This is actually such a key learning moment for the entire club.

For the last 10 years, all we've been hearing is how time and patience is all it takes to make the next Ferguson. Let's see if this one out, and see what state the clubs left in. I think we'd be letting a lot of people off the hook here if we end this one now.

 

[pcaming]

Worst coach post fergie.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Yeah, time to go. Had about enough of this lethargic bullshit.

 

[AndySmith1990]

Keeping him beyond last season was so unbelievably stupid and we deserve everything we get for such unforgivable stupidity

 

[Ayoba]

When's the next international break?

 

[ha_rooney]

Not sure if he’s just a stubborn twat or completely incompetent with tactics. Keeping him will be another wasted season in the league.

 

[Samid]

How has this clown managed to get to 18%. This abysmal stuff and there is almost a 1 in 5 wanting him to stay. Surely 1 in 5 on this site is a Liverpool fan....?

Opposition fans and quite a few delusional lovers who have admitted they'd support him even if relegated.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

He has to go tonight.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

When's the next international break?

October

 

[Sarni]

We will probably fluke a win here and he will be proclaimed a hero. We’ve looked beyond pathetic.

 

[Suv666]

Keeping him beyond last season was so unbelievably stupid and we deserve everything we get for such unforgivable stupidity

Yup its up there as one of the worst calls post fergie

Its amazing we apparently have the avengers assemble of a boardroom but all of them couldn’t figure out eth out…

I wont hold it against them cause they’re new but rocky start

 

[Ayoba]

1-0!
Hag in

 

[Fooza]

I've always like EtH you know

 

[Sarni]

Take that doubters