crossy1686
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We can only thank them if so.So have Liverpool just gone and gotten another one of our managers sacked?
We can only thank them if so.So have Liverpool just gone and gotten another one of our managers sacked?
There was nothing to negotiate. The executive team put themselves in a rubbish position when it became clear they were looking at other managers only to fall back on the guy who was already in post.But what is there to negotiate? It's just a contract extension with no changes. Ten Hag specifically said negotiations weren't going well and it would be tough to arrive at an agreement, then he gets a +1 with the same deal. That's hardly a tough negotiation.
I assumed that was the case at that time but I don't think I've seen anywhere reliable that they offered him a new contract.Thought I read somewhere they we trying to re-negotiate his existing contract, to downgrade his title from Manager to Head Coach and remove his veto on transfers etc. EtH wouldn’t agree so they just triggered the extension.
Kamikaze football. Our matches turning into basketball games even against lower level opposition is no coincidence. Newport County scored twice against us. Coventry scored 4 (with one being disallowed). We finished last in a CL group that included Galatasaray and Copenhagen.
Why are our full backs 10-15 yards in front of Liverpool's wingers?? There's no recovery speed that would allow Dalot to prevent Salah's goal with this nonsense set-up. Why is our DM up there? The gaping hole in midfield that Liverpool midfielders can exploit has been there for like 3 years.:
Ten Hag is probably the first manager I've seen trying to use a "glass cannon" RPG build in football. Crazy stuff
I wish, but it's just too good to be true.Actually it could be this
Plenty on here wanted him to stay after the final, not a majority, but a good number.
Lucky not to be 4-3 down...Lucky to be 3-0 up. No
As mentioned earlier, it's possible that ETH requested a new contract, but INEOS may not have been on board with that idea. As a result, all parties might have decided that triggering the existing option was the best temporary solution.But what is there to negotiate? It's just a contract extension with no changes. Ten Hag specifically said negotiations weren't going well and it would be tough to arrive at an agreement, then he gets a +1 with the same deal. That's hardly a tough negotiation.
Not for me, Maguire's best form is his first season still. He had way too many tragic games under ETH to brush under the carpetMaguire has improved
That was Moyes's biggest mistake in my opinion. From what I can remember, the fans that were backing him at the time started to change their tone.Btw, "we beat big opponents" is such a pathetic line. As if we are some relegation fodder. This is worse than when Moyes admitted that we need to "aspire to be like City".
Two mickey mouse cups or not, no one can convince me that he isn't the worst appointment since Sir Alex retired. The worst is that he has filled the squad with expensive mediocre players from Ajax or the Dutch league. It would take a while to clean all the shit that he has dumped on us.
It's not that impressive at all, Liverpool also were not as impressive as people make them seem really.
I hope so!They're not impressive and Slot doesn't look remotely impressive. They'll be found out.
Yeah I am but I have to say it's getting increasingly difficultAre their people who are still defending him?
The funny thing of Neville, is that the one time he actually run a club, he sacked the managers 4 times or so.Neville - possibly due to PTSD from his managerial stint - is always hustling against United/United’s best interest. In his head sacking a manager is a cardinal offence - to the point he frames is as “stupid”.
Carragher couldn’t believe what he was hearing and even said “why would that (sacking him) be stupid?!”
Stretford Paddock are pretty vehemently defending him.Are their people who are still defending him?
He's a walking hypocrite to be fair.The funny thing of Neville, is that the one time he actually run a club, he sacked the managers 4 times or so.
They're not impressive and Slot doesn't look remotely impressive. They'll be found out.
Stretford Paddock are pretty vehemently defending him.
Even so, it shows the footballing ownership as gutless and juvenile.Plenty on here wanted him to stay after the final, not a majority, but a good number.
I feel you, my short term memory always helps in being impatient and barely waiting for our next game to start, only to remember where we are at after the first 10 minutes of every game.I can't take this anymore. I can't see him manage one more Man Utd game. I just can't, sorry.
I will be back supporting the club once ETH is sacked. This boring football and ruining weekends have to stop for my own sanity.
Btw, "we beat big opponents" is such a pathetic line. As if we are some relegation fodder. This is worse than when Moyes admitted that we need to "aspire to be like City".
Two mickey mouse cups or not, no one can convince me that he isn't the worst appointment since Sir Alex retired. The worst is that he has filled the squad with expensive mediocre players from Ajax or the Dutch league. It would take a while to clean all the shit that he has dumped on us.
Always happens when we do and we only seem to get results when we park the bus and counter (0-0 draw against them at Anfield last season, City cup final). We did beat Liverpool with chaos ball in the FA cup but their poor finishing was a big factor IIRC. The Antony equialiser came out of nowhere really.He's trying to get us to play toe to toe with the big boys rather than the counter attack stuff we usually see.
He's getting it horribly wrong.
Is this what was happening in the first half yesterday?Yoro, De Ligt, Zirkzee, Ugarte, Martinez and Mazraoui are hardly shit players. What we need is a change in tactics. Whenever we attack we go too gung-ho which leads to huge gaps in CM when we get countered. Even prime Roy Keane would struggle with the space left a midfield were the two CM + the two wingers bomb forward
162 of em if you go by the poll here and it keeps increasing.Are their people who are still defending him?
Is this what was happening in the first half yesterday?
This argument is in bad faith because the same logic can easily be applied in reverse. We’re just a ridiculous offside call against Zirkzee that rarely happens, Zirkzee’s header being placed just a few centimeters away from Alisson, Garnacho missing an open goal against Fulham, or Bruno converting one of his two clear chances against Fulham away from having six goals in three games.We are a Zirkzee toe tap away going wide and a Amad deflected shot going out instead of in from having 0 goals scored thru 3 matches.
It really is our luck that we go from vibes fc manager, who pretends that winning cups means nothing in the scheme of things... we follow the right process for recruiting their replacement...
But somehow we end up with anti-vibes fc manager, who pretends that winning a cup excuses them from being a shit coach and terrible communicator, who cant even get the team scoring more than they concede over a season, and averaging 1 point per game since February.
Winning cups is nice but if they dont come alongside progression and improving competitiveness in the comps that matter, they are irrelevant.
They kept him last season though. And decided to reward him by activating the +1 extension, effectively making his sacking cost another 9m pounds.Never happening. They aren't fools. If our form doesn't immediately change he'll be gone by October.
So this season I don't think I've seen Mainoo run up and leave Casemiro. And our full backs are more inverted but yes, higher up.Its happening on a regular basis. Our CMs and wingers bomb forward, they don't backtrack in time which leave the DM isolated and messing things around. It doesn't help that Casemiro's legs are gone + our wingers are playing in a role which was very similar to what prime Ronaldo used to play for us (ie focus on scoring/creating, don't worry defending) but have like 1/15 his talent. This is a tactical mess. I'd wish that it was more complicated than that as I hate pointing my finger to one person but unfortunately it isn't the case.
So this season I don't think I've seen Mainoo run up and leave Casemiro. And our full backs are more inverted but yes, higher up.
Calm down, it's torture for me too but I certainly won't stop watching or supporting.I can't take this anymore. I can't see him manage one more Man Utd game. I just can't, sorry.
I will be back supporting the club once ETH is sacked. This boring football and ruining weekends have to stop for my own sanity.
Biggest hypocrite among pundits. He was sacking managers left and right in Salford while at United he is promoting 3 years minimum.Neville - possibly due to PTSD from his managerial stint - is always hustling against United/United’s best interest. In his head sacking a manager is a cardinal offence - to the point he frames is as “stupid”.
Carragher couldn’t believe what he was hearing and even said “why would that (sacking him) be stupid?!”
Since INEOS came in he's had 1 window together with a new coaching+medical staff and that's how they'll look at the situation. They won't rage quit on him unless he fails to take off this season with wins on the board. 3 GWs is too early to call that, but I agree his time to get convincing wins on the board is right now.
Calm down, we have 3 cups to win. With Erik we will never win a PL but cups are his thing. He loves cup competitions.I can't take this anymore. I can't see him manage one more Man Utd game. I just can't, sorry.
I will be back supporting the club once ETH is sacked. This boring football and ruining weekends have to stop for my own sanity.