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If we need a right back and an anchor man in midfield why not get both?
It'd cost about £80m probably and really we only need one.
If we need a right back and an anchor man in midfield why not get both?
If we need a right back and an anchor man in midfield why not get both?
We would be wise not to spend time with Levy and concentrate in getting better specialist players for each postion. Our club were poor in transfers mainly because instead of getting players when they are available we waste time in going for players who are not available.If we need a right back and an anchor man in midfield why not get both?
I really don't want us to sign him like. He's decent but nothing more than that and with him being both English and at Spurs he'd cost an exorbitant amount to sign.
He's simply not worth it when there are much better options out there.
Exactly, Fabinho is a much better player and is doing it in the CL as well, and I doubt he'd cost any more money than the fleecing Spurs would give us for Dier, I actually doubt many would be bothered if Dier wasn't English.
Fabinho is playing his first season in Europe as a holding midfielder for a team that has a horrific defensive record, not sure how you can see he's a much better player,
Don't get me wrong, I think he's a potentially very good player, just don't see what he's proved that Dier hasn't.
Monaco have conceded 28 goals in 33 Ligue 1 matches.
That small competition, how is it called? Ah yes, UEFA Champions League.Fabinho is playing his first season in Europe as a holding midfielder for a team that has a horrific defensive record, not sure how you can see he's a much better player,
Don't get me wrong, I think he's a potentially very good player, just don't see what he's proved that Dier hasn't.
Fabinho is playing his first season in Europe as a holding midfielder for a team that has a horrific defensive record, not sure how you can see he's a much better player,
Don't get me wrong, I think he's a potentially very good player, just don't see what he's proved that Dier hasn't.
He's played well when ive seen him in the CL to be fair, but I have no faith in signing players from the French league, and its a bit of a risk as you say signing BrazilianThat small competition, how is it called? Ah yes, UEFA Champions League.
Fabinho is the better player IMO, clearly. He is Brazilian though, and they tend to struggle in EPL. Dier knows the league well, so that counts in his favor. I think that I would be happily with either of them, but Fabinho is both a better and more exciting player.
Their defensive record isn't that bad and I am judging them based on watching their performances only, you can't hold one player purely responsible for a defensive record, whether it's good or bad, I'm just judging Fabinho on his attributes in the role like positioning and his composure on the ball when under pressure.
That counts for little.Dier would be a Ferguson signing; getting giddy about Galactico's has seen United fall out of the Champions League. More like this are necessary to make the next step.
He'll surprise a lot of people next season if he arrives; he's one of those players that other fans generally don't 'get' until they play for you. He's the perfect platform for the more box-to-box Pogba and Herrera, and an obvious upgrade on Fellaini as giant destroyer in midfield.
The captains armband will be available soon as well.....
I accept that Eric Dier is a typical SAF signing based on british core etc.
imo, When a player(Fabinho) who plays well in a 2 man midfield of a 442 formation and is closer to a deep lying playmaker type of defensive midfielder, it is a no brainer to sign him for United. Eric Dier plays for the second place team in PL where as Fabinho plays for a team in CL semifinal and currently first in French League. Fabinho is the best rated midfielder for Monaco where as Dier is a third choice defensive midfielder/defender for Spurs.
With Mourinho, we are in a better position to get the best of the Brazilian talent than under SAF.
Given a choice as he will also cost less than Dier, It should be Fabinho.
It ain't happening.We're not getting Dier. Stop entertaining the rumour of Spurs actually selling us a player for £stupid million.
He's played well when ive seen him in the CL to be fair, but I have no faith in signing players from the French league, and its a bit of a risk as you say signing Brazilian
Because Payet, Kante and Marshall struggled to make the transition
A guy who doesn't really play centre back very often for them, being signed by us, presumably for centre back? Unlikely.
A player from Tottenham, with the grand master moneyman at the head of negotiation? Even less likely!
Who is Marshall?
There's obviously exceptions, but generally I don't trust players from there,
He's played well when ive seen him in the CL to be fair, but I have no faith in signing players from the French league, and its a bit of a risk as you say signing Brazilian
My bad, Martial.
The point I'm trying to make is that there have been several successful transfers from the Ligue 1 recently. Certainly enough to dispel skepticism. Or is there something obvious I'm missing?
Schneiderlin was even more proven than Dier and still failed, it doesnt say anything.There's also been successful signings from Holland, doesn't change the fact there's several bad ones as well, we need players who can come in straight away and perform, dier is far less of a risk.
Eric Cantona, David Ginola, Robert Pires, Patrick Viera, Thierry Henry, William Gallas, Patrice Evra, Michael Essien, Eden Hazard, N'Golo Kante are some of the most important players in PL history.
Schneiderlin was even more proven than Dier and still failed, it doesnt say anything.
I think he'd be signed as a holding midfielder primarilly,and to provide cover at CB
Arguably he was. Schneiderlin was the better performing midfielder compared to Wanyama in that Southampton set up and Wanyama now keeps Dier out from playing in his preferred CDM position at Spurs. Saying that, I don't think there's much of a difference in level between Fabinho and Dier, but Fabinho is reportedly available as he has a verbal agreement to leave Monaco, while Spurs wouldn't want to sell Dier to us for any reasonable price.Except he really wasnt, hed performed well in a mid table to 6th placed team, Dier has been a mainstay I now 2 title challenging teams.
Eric Cantona, David Ginola, Robert Pires, Patrick Viera, Thierry Henry, William Gallas, Patrice Evra, Michael Essien, Eden Hazard, N'Golo Kante are some of the most important players in PL history.
Drogba is another top class player. Giroud has done half decent too.Eric Cantona, David Ginola, Robert Pires, Patrick Viera, Thierry Henry, William Gallas, Patrice Evra, Michael Essien, Eden Hazard, N'Golo Kante are some of the most important players in PL history.
I like Dier but if we're going to the hassle of trying to deal with Levy, there are a number of players I'd be looking at first.
Top of the list would be Alderweireld who is apparently seeking wage parity with the big names in their squad. Then Alli obviously, Kane, Dembele and either of their fullbacks would be more attractive than Dier.
I know we need someone in that role but I really want Fabinho for it.
Just saw this.well done noodlehair, you are a star
Just saw this.
Just to sidetrack a bit, the fact that a national newspaper can take quotes from here reinforced my belief that all these journalism/news about transfers and football news are all researched from here and they are just as clueless as us.
Dier, Fellaini and Herrera would be one nasty midfield. You never know which one might pick up a red card.