[BarstoolProphet]

Only pre-season but still bar that one mistake this was a ridiculously good performance His intercepted passes must have been in double digits.

 

[horsechoker]

Shame he can’t stay fit for more than 5 games.

This. He could be Ferdinand, Bruce, Vidic, Pallister, Stam all rolled into one but it won't matter if he isn't.

 

[Drainy]

When he's good he's good.

 

[Tavern in the town]

One good game, but the next he will most likely make some costly mistakes

He’s the weirdest football ever. He’s either brilliant, utter shite or injured.

 

[Red00012]

He’s excellent at reading the game and very good on the ball but he’s made of glass and capable of doing anything . I’d have him alongside Varane if he can stay fit until he gets injured

 

[BeltUp]

On his good days, he's the best defender in our squad.

 

[VanDeBank]

Bailly's biggest problems are his nationality and his poor media team/connections.

Good player.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Bailly's biggest problems are his nationality and his poor media team/connections.

Good player.

Think because he was very injury prone he couldn't get a run going even when he was favoured under Mourinho.

 

[bosnian_red]

Bailly's biggest problems are his nationality and his poor media team/connections.

Good player.

Nah. His biggest problem has always been injuries. He's never fit. No point persisting with a player who can't play 5 games on the bounce in a position where you need consistency.

 

[Rozay]

You would think our other centre halves have been pillars of consistency reading Bailly threads. He should play more because he’s better than those who are playing ahead. Who also make frequent mistakes, despite being given years of conservative games in a row to cut them out.

Bailly’s biggest issue is injuries, but at his best, he’s certainly good enough. Want to see him play more this season if he stays. Ralf treated him like shite.

 

[Shane88]

Glass cannon.

 

[TsuWave]

You would think our other centre halves have been pillars of consistency reading Bailly threads. He should play more because he’s better than those who are playing ahead. Who also make frequent mistakes, despite being given years of conservative games in a row to cut them out.

Bailly’s biggest issue is injuries, but at his best, he’s certainly good enough. Want to see him play more this season if he stays. Ralf treated him like shite.

All Facts.

In fact, Bailly’s career at United has been a weird one cause his worst performances came from the manager throwing him in the deep end right after coming back from injury. Take for example that game at PSG, guy had just returned from injury and Ole though it was wise to throw him against a stacked PSG attack at RB. Insane stuff. No one really questioned this, they just dogpiled on Bailly. and then Ole locked him in a dungeon somewhere.

The one against Spurs was also after recently coming back from an injury IIRC and Maguire had a worse disasterclass but somehow Bailly didn’t get a look in after. Crazy stuff.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Like Rafael, he gets injured due to being a maniac.

Also like Rafael, his highest level is immense and amongst the best around.

 

[Mickeza]

He’s the weirdest football ever. He’s either brilliant, utter shite or injured.

Sometimes he’s all 3 within 5 minutes of each other!

 

[Rozay]

All Facts.

In fact, Bailly’s career at United has been a weird one cause his worst performances came from the manager throwing him in the deep end right after coming back from injury. Take for example that game at PSG, guy had just returned from injury and Ole though it was wise to throw him against a stacked PSG attack at RB. Insane stuff. No one really questioned this, they just dogpiled on Bailly. and then Ole locked him in a dungeon somewhere.

The one against Spurs was also after recently coming back from an injury IIRC and Maguire had a worse disasterclass but somehow Bailly didn’t get a look in after. Crazy stuff.

He's even had games where he's brought in from the cold and performed excellently. The problem we have is that one spot is reserved for the skipper no matter what. Last season Bailly started out of nowhere at Stamford Bridge and was excellent. He then started away to Atalanta and was a one-man defence, really incredible performance. And then discarded, and not only discarded, but discarded for a terribly performing Maguire.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

of all the players who dont deserve more changes himself and jones are at the top

people seem to rate a players ability to perform under perfect circumstances much more highly than they rate fitness and consistency, but it should be the opposite.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

Think because he was very injury prone he couldn't get a run going even when he was favoured under Mourinho.

Yeah when he first came and was fit those 3-4 months under Mourinho he legit looked like one of the best CB’s in the league. But he’s never stayed fit after that first injury

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

of all the players who dont deserve more changes himself and jones are at the top

people seem to rate a players ability to perform under perfect circumstances much more highly than they rate fitness and consistency, but it should be the opposite.

Well ideally he’d stay fit, but I’m also not going to rate a shit defender just because he’s always available that’s just as stupid.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Well ideally he’d stay fit, but I’m also not going to rate a shit defender just because he’s always available that’s just as stupid.

well i dont think anyone rational thinks we have any 'shit defenders'. if someone does then not much discussion to be had, don't play a 'shit defender' no matter what obviously

 

[stevoc]

He's shown he's capable of stringing performances together no problem, but then injuries derail that.

Anyway, we shall see. As you say things will unlikely change but maybe if a manager truly puts their faith in him things could change.

He's certainly capable of putting together 3-5 good performances. But I don't know if I've seen many games from him where he stays calm, keeps his concentration and doesn't attempt something batshit crazy.

That tendency for crazy moments and his injuries have always worked against him.

 

[Ali Dia]

He's even had games where he's brought in from the cold and performed excellently. The problem we have is that one spot is reserved for the skipper no matter what. Last season Bailly started out of nowhere at Stamford Bridge and was excellent. He then started away to Atalanta and was a one-man defence, really incredible performance. And then discarded, and not only discarded, but discarded for a terribly performing Maguire.

True. He was brilliant in those two games. He’s a classy defender when he’s fit. So aggressive and fast. It’s a lot more reassuring than watching a half fit Harry stomp around the place

 

[stevoc]

You would think our other centre halves have been pillars of consistency reading Bailly threads. He should play more because he’s better than those who are playing ahead. Who also make frequent mistakes, despite being given years of conservative games in a row to cut them out.

Bailly’s biggest issue is injuries, but at his best, he’s certainly good enough. Want to see him play more this season if he stays. Ralf treated him like shite.

He's even had games where he's brought in from the cold and performed excellently. The problem we have is that one spot is reserved for the skipper no matter what. Last season Bailly started out of nowhere at Stamford Bridge and was excellent. He then started away to Atalanta and was a one-man defence, really incredible performance. And then discarded, and not only discarded, but discarded for a terribly performing Maguire.

So Ole and Ralf both were unfair to him. I suppose next it'll be Erik's fault when Bailly isn't first choice this season with 40 games under his belt.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

It's preseason. Caf posters have the memories of goldfish.

 

[foolsgold]

He was fit for a lot of last season but Ralf refused to play him over Harry. Never understood why.

 

[Ekeke]

Fit and on form he's got pretty much everything. Very good defensive instincts. This was another one of those top performances bar one bad touch in his own box

The problem is of course that he cant stay fit and hasnt been consistent other than his first season. And in that one he was good but a bit rash

 

[Rozay]

So Ole and Ralf both were unfair to him. I suppose next it'll be Erik's fault when Bailly isn't first choice this season with 40 games under his belt.

Well, obviously it will? Who else’s fault would it be if we find ourselves in a position where our centre halves are not performing yet he is never allowed to play. As mentioned, he played well in big games last season yet Ralf brought Phil fecking Jones out of cold storage ahead of him.

 

[bringbackbebe]

He’s the weirdest football ever. He’s either brilliant, utter shite or injured.

Second weirdest, after Fred.

 

[FatTails]

He was great, but let’s be honest it’s preseason and he was up against dross like Nunez.

 

[Dargonk]

Great performance from him. Now the real question will be whether he can actually stay fit. Hopefully he can, because he has the ability to be a starter for us if he can

 

[Escobar]

He’s the weirdest football ever. He’s either brilliant, utter shite or injured.

Brilliant the least, so I would sell asap

 

[Bondi77]

If that was his regular level he would be the first CB picked every week.

 

[Bondi77]

Let's get one thing straight, Bailly has always been a very good player. It's the fact he's made of glass and struggles to string three games together that's the issue.

He is a fecking psycho as well......let’s not forget that.

 

[Chaky_Best]

His usual old self. Makes one good performance, and we begin thinking about him as a starter, then the second game he will remind us that even Jones defends better than him.

Sign Martinez and let him go asap.

 

[Adam-Utd]

He's certainly capable of putting together 3-5 good performances. But I don't know if I've seen many games form him where he stays calm, keeps his concentration and doesn't attempt something batshit crazy.

That tendency for crazy moments and his injuries have always worked against him.

People talk like he's making mistakes every game, but then we look at Lindelof and Maguire who last year literally did make a mistake every game.

Bailly just gets a way worse reputation for it for some reason. Anyway, he just needs to keep this performance level up and i'm sure he will get a chance.

 

[mctrials23]

Bailly just gets a way worse reputation for it for some reason. Anyway, he just needs to keep this performance level up and i'm sure he will get a chance.

Because when he makes a mistake it will quite often be memorable. Lindelof and Maguires mistakes are usually quieter if that makes sense.

 

[Red the Bear]

Linked to Napoli it seems.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Linked to Napoli it seems.

He'd be a fantastic Koulibaly replacement to be honest. As much as I love Eric, if he's going to be a bench warmer here he should definitely go there and be a starter.

We should get £20m easily.

 

[stevoc]

Well, obviously it will? Who else’s fault would it be if we find ourselves in a position where our centre halves are not performing yet he is never allowed to play. As mentioned, he played well in big games last season yet Ralf brought Phil fecking Jones out of cold storage ahead of him.

I feel like there may be a common denominator in the reigns of Solskjaer, Rangnick and Ten Hag with regards to Bailly.

The truth is Ole nor Ralf had anything against him, he's just not reliable, he's rarely fit and when he is fit for every good game he has more bad ones. And even when he is good he's still prone to doing batshit crazy stuff in games, managers tend to not like that in centrebacks.

He's just never developed his game or matured as a defender.

 

[stevoc]

People talk like he's making mistakes every game, but then we look at Lindelof and Maguire who last year literally did make a mistake every game.

Bailly just gets a way worse reputation for it for some reason. Anyway, he just needs to keep this performance level up and i'm sure he will get a chance.

I agree most defenders make mistakes most games but I think the reason Baillys get noticed more is because a lot of his mistakes come from trying unnecessarily crazy things on a football pitch.

 

[MadDogg]

All Facts.

In fact, Bailly’s career at United has been a weird one cause his worst performances came from the manager throwing him in the deep end right after coming back from injury. Take for example that game at PSG, guy had just returned from injury and Ole though it was wise to throw him against a stacked PSG attack at RB. Insane stuff. No one really questioned this, they just dogpiled on Bailly. and then Ole locked him in a dungeon somewhere.

The one against Spurs was also after recently coming back from an injury IIRC and Maguire had a worse disasterclass but somehow Bailly didn’t get a look in after. Crazy stuff.

The issue with Bailly is that when he does have a bad game he tends to destroy any type of defensive cohesion in our defence. His own teammates have no idea what he's going to do next, and it just causes immense chaos.

The rest of them can be having shocking games, but they won't normally be causing as many problems to the other defenders around them. Key word there being 'normally'; Maguire certainly had a few last season where he was.