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we need to send him to Germany to get that Kobe treatment.
Good bit of movement and lapse by the defender alsoVardy pulls off he and Bissaka. Simply a good bit of movement. Bailly hardly to blame for that either. He’s is doing what 99% of Cb’s would do Cover the front post run. Vardy is also on his blind side and should have Bissaka touch tight.
On the first goal he puts in a poor effort to block that shot (everyone was at fault in that goal but he played his part)hahahahah you call that a bad game?! Vardy had literally 1 chance all match.
You are just going way over the top to try and bad mouth somebody. Ridiculous.
If Lindelof put in that performance his fanboys would be creaming themselves in his thread for 2 weeks over that.
How is Baily covering the front post when Maguire was doing that? Wan Bissaka being tighter dosent make sense either considering that is litterally what we’ve been killing him for instead of covering the back post/ opposition winger. That was clearly Bailys man and he didn’t pick him up.Vardy pulls off he and Bissaka. Simply a good bit of movement. Bailly hardly to blame for that either. He’s is doing what 99% of Cb’s would do Cover the front post run. Vardy is also on his blind side and should have Bissaka touch tight.
This not true at all. He is consistent when playing - the one player who was man of the match for many games when he had just come even when Zlatan had scored the winning goals.
Maguire wasn’t covering the front post. He was miles out of position. It’s not Baillys man nothing of the sort as he’s having to cover Maguire and try to cut out any ball or run across the front post. It’s then Tuanzebe is it that should be dealing with Vardy as he can see the full picture.How is Baily covering the front post when Maguire was doing that? Wan Bissaka being tighter dosent make sense either considering that is litterally what we’ve been killing him for instead of covering the back post/ opposition winger. That was clearly Bailys man and he didn’t pick him up.
EDIT: we are talking about Tuanzebe not AWB right?Haha
I think some of our fans are as up and down as Bailly. He has played three PL matches: one horrible, one ok but cost us, and one good.
We have 1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss with him as CB in PL.
Without him we have 8 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses. And then somehow he is suddenly our best defender?
As I wrote before. He is great in matches where the other team has weak attack and we need to keep possession. He is great at winning back the ball early but struggle when facing good forwards like Kane, Son and Vardy who easy find open space around him. His speedy recovery pace is good for him, but I haven’t really seen us concede many goals due to poor recover pace.
I am wondering if Ole will play him next match or Tuanzebe. Playing several games in a row could be taking a risk with Bailly considering his injury record. On the other hand, Ole does not seem to trust Tuanzebe.
It may be, but we see it so rarely what’s the point? We’ve been here before. I would’ve thought people would learn after four years.
Actually, Pogba was closer to Pérez, Shaw was higher up the field than Fred, Shaw ran back while Pogba observed jogging and could have cut things off. Maguire had no choice but to push to the left, so as Bailly and AWB. The latter two ultimately ball watched..Maguire wasn’t covering the front post. He was miles out of position. It’s not Baillys man nothing of the sort as he’s having to cover Maguire and try to cut out any ball or run across the front post. It’s then Tuanzebe is it that should be dealing with Vardy as he can see the full picture.
he is nowhere near the guy coming in to shot either inside the 18 yard box and is covering no one. He should be touch tight with Vardy. Watch the goal, it’s painfully obvious he isn’t the main issue in it and hardly can be held accountable for the soul reason of costing us 3 points as many are saying.
To be fare to Leicster it’s a fantastic ball across and an excellent bit of movement/understanding by Vardy to see there is no way he can score across the front and gambles on a ball that should easily be cut out finding it’s way to where it did.
I’m not even sure Pogba broke in to a jog. Think he just pointed. I Remember writing after the game two poor moments from the midfielders cost us. Pogba just watching and McT. Not even sure what he was doing, was just ridiculous.Actually, Pogba was closer to Pérez, Shaw was higher up the field than Fred, Shaw ran back while Pogba observed jogging and could have cut things off. Maguire had no choice but to push to the left, so as Bailly and AWB. The latter two ultimately ball watched..
Very very different scenarios.Some never do, there's probably still a few on here holding out hope that Jones will get over his injury problems and become a top defender.
Very very different scenarios.
Bailly hasn’t got a history of muscle injuries, he’s had 2 bad knee injuries which put him out for a long time.
he’s still only 26 and just reaching his prime. Let’s not forget he only started playing football at 18 years old! Anyway, people can think what they like but if he plays regularly like he did against Leicester and wolves we will be ok at the back.
We're also lucky because Bailly also read the situation perfectly and had the pace to shift quickly from the opposition half to extinguish the threat.Jeez, that’s a fast sprint from Traoré, AWB had no chance to keep up. We’re a bit lucky they totally missed the passed.
That’s not really luck, Maguire has control of his player and then the other CB I would expect to take care of a pass to the centre.We're also lucky because Bailly also read the situation perfectly and had the pace to shift quickly from the opposition half to extinguish the threat.
We’re a bit lucky they totally missed the passed.
But his pace and athleticism allowed him to get back into position quickly from with-in the opposition half to intercept the pass. He's a profile of player that allows you to play a more expansive game and that particular action further demonstrated why Solskjaer wants to sign a CB that has the ability to defend 1v1.That’s not really luck, Maguire has control of his player and then the other CB I would expect to take care of a pass to the centre.
Edit: I mean it was good from Bailly, but if he had failed to stop the pass I would have been more surprised.Fairly standard defending.
Yes it was well done by him, although this is a classic example of how his abilities are exaggerated, like no one else on earth could have stopped that pass. The poster even writes he doesn’t believe Lindelof would have made it. Most likely Lindelof would not have run on the same ball/player as Maguire (which Bailly did), but instead already from the start have run to cover a potential pass.But his pace and athleticism allowed him to get back into position quickly from with-in the opposition half to intercept the pass. He's a profile of player that allows you to play a more expansive game and that particular action further demonstrated why Solskjaer wants to sign a CB that has the ability to defend 1v1.
Had Lindelof been playing along side Maguire then I fully expect Ole to play a deeper defensive line with Pogba on the bench.Yes it was well done by him, although this is a classic example of how his abilities are exaggerated, like no one else on earth could have stopped that pass. The poster even writes he doesn’t believe Lindelof would have made it. Most likely Lindelof would not have run on the same ball/player as Maguire (which Bailly did), but instead already from the start have run to cover a potential pass.
I think he needs to take bigger risks when he has to play Bailly, because Bailly is a risk taking defender. He likes to attack the ball, without really being aware of what’s going on behind him. In general, he doesn’t play very safe. I don’t think it is something Ole wants a to do on purpose. Lindelof/Maguire have so far 2.2 points per match while Bailly/Maguire has 1.3 points per match. Don’t see that Ole would add risks on purpose when he is getting the results anyway.Had Lindelof been playing along side Maguire then I fully expect Ole to play a deeper defensive line with Pogba on the bench.
Whether Bailly can maintain consistency remains to be seen and it's understandable why many are sceptical about his long-term prospects. But I have to say that with Bailly in the team, Solskjaer takes more risks with how he approaches games IMO.
For me it’s not even whether he can stay fit.Great game from Bailly last night, a deserved clean sheet.
The question, as I'm sure many have pointed out is can he stay fit
You act like Bailly just runs around like a mad dog and doesn’t actually know what’s happening around him it’s so disrespectful. Whenever the ball went long he was there to chase it down.I think he needs to take bigger risks when he has to play Bailly, because Bailly is a risk taking defender. He likes to attack the ball, without really being aware of what’s going on behind him. In general, he doesn’t play very safe. I don’t think it is something Ole wants a to do on purpose. Lindelof/Maguire have so far 2.2 points per match while Bailly/Maguire has 1.3 points per match. Don’t see that Ole would add risks on purpose when he is getting the results anyway.
You act like Bailly just runs around like a mad dog and doesn’t actually know what’s happening around him it’s so disrespectful. Whenever the ball went long he was there to chase it down.
maybe you’re just so used to Lindelofs cowardly style of defending that you’re not used to a front foot defender anymore.
What you're describing there is a player that could be improved with a run of games and even in training sessions. But his biggest problem has been bad luck with injuries which has affected his match rhythm.I think he needs to take bigger risks when he has to play Bailly, because Bailly is a risk taking defender. He likes to attack the ball, without really being aware of what’s going on behind him. In general, he doesn’t play very safe. I don’t think it is something Ole wants a to do on purpose. Lindelof/Maguire have so far 2.2 points per match while Bailly/Maguire has 1.3 points per match. Don’t see that Ole would add risks on purpose when he is getting the results anyway.
It’s not disrespectful, it’s a fact that he leaves space behind him and is often unaware of what’s going on behind him. Disrespectful is to call a United player’s style cowardly, especially when he is one of those who made our second place in the PL happen.You act like Bailly just runs around like a mad dog and doesn’t actually know what’s happening around him it’s so disrespectful. Whenever the ball went long he was there to chase it down.
maybe you’re just so used to Lindelofs cowardly style of defending that you’re not used to a front foot defender anymore.
Bailly would, like all players who have played few games, benefit from playing. But for me it is clear that he lacks a lot of the basics. Could be because he started playing football late and hasn’t had the proper training. We will always have a higher line with Bailly, since he moves forward high up. When we face teams with poor attack like Wolves it is good. When we face teams like Spurs with fast and smart forwards it can be a disaster.What you're describing there is a player that could be improved with a run of games and even in training sessions. But his biggest problem has been bad luck with injuries which has affected his match rhythm.
Solskjaer has gone on record and said he wants to press high and play a high-line which is how he setup at Molde from the limited games I watched. So you need at least one CB who is comfortable defending in 1v1 situations when the fullbacks are caught up field. Whether Bailly is good enough to be that player long-term I don't know, but he does have the attributes to be considered to play in such a way. I don't believe Maguire and Lindelof will allow him to do that hence he's (Ole) quite intelligently adopted a cautious approach by playing two DMs to provide protection which offsets the weaknesses of the two CBs.
Can't disagree with too much here..Bailly would, like all players who have played few games, benefit from playing. But for me it is clear that he lacks a lot of the basics. Could be because he started playing football late and hasn’t had the proper training. We will always have a higher line with Bailly, since he moves forward high up. When we face teams with poor attack like Wolves it is good. When we face teams like Spurs with fast and smart forwards it can be a disaster.
Then there is the question if we need a higher line.
It's like when ya flip two coins. More of a chance that they won't both be tails.When Rojo and Bailly played together they were good because both were mad and unconventional. Maybe they understand each other better than any others.
Me too. Something that is very earnest and wholesome about him, despite him being a kamikaze ninja when he is in form.Love this guy. Hope he stays fit and gets picked as often as possible