We aren't cocky, we are sloty.
What's that based on?
Stats after 1 round of CL football. Seeing as they won their first game 1-5, the biggest surprise is, who are 1 and 2?What's that based on?
Their model is a hybrid based on xG, non-shot xG and goals scored.What's that based on?
Ajax has come awfully close or have beaten Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern in fairly recent times. They might even be stronger now than then, at least the squad is.
I think we have the best record against City funnily enough, the teams are different ofcourse.
So it does not take into account whether you're playing might Cambuur Leeuwarden or puny Manchester United for instance? If that's the case, I'm again quite surprised they're not nr. 1.
Why do you call them a 'fallen FC Twente'?So it does not take into account whether you're playing might Cambuur Leeuwarden or puny Manchester United for instance? If that's the case, I'm again quite surprised they're not nr. 1.
TThat being said they're very good at the moment, but let's not pretend they're Bayern Munich. They had 1 semi tough league game this season which they drew against a fallen FC Twente. The Sporting game was amazing, but my God, Feyenoord was accused of getting cocky after skme good results in this thread
You question someone stating you won't beat Bayern or City. So, you.
Hahaha, I guess we do have a few cocky fans. Good for you mate, but I'm quite positive Ajax will wipe the floor with us
This is a bit silly, Ajax has had some top performances vs the top teams over the past few years under Erik Ten Hag.
Obviously Ajax can beat them in a 1 off game. Greece won the Euro's after all. For the sake of discussion I'd imagine we are talking whether Ajax is near equal in strength to Bayern and City and it seemed to me that you were argueing they are. If you just meant, they're able to beat them in a knockout tie, sure, it could happen, it's football after all. But none of Ajax' players would start for Bayern or City and honestly, I struggle to name anyone other than Onana who'd even make the bench. Well, Antony in this form is fecking brilliant so maybe him.
I have no clue where you inferred that from.Obviously Ajax can beat them in a 1 off game. Greece won the Euro's after all. For the sake of discussion I'd imagine we are talking whether Ajax is near equal in strength to Bayern and City and it seemed to me that you were argueing they are. If you just meant, they're able to beat them in a knockout tie, sure, it could happen, it's football after all. But none of Ajax' players would start for Bayern or City and honestly, I struggle to name anyone other than Onana who'd even make the bench. Well, Antony in this form is fecking brilliant so maybe him.
I mentioned Sporting too by the way
So it does not take into account whether you're playing might Cambuur Leeuwarden or puny Manchester United for instance? If that's the case, I'm again quite surprised they're not nr. 1.
TThat being said they're very good at the moment, but let's not pretend they're Bayern Munich. They had 1 semi tough league game this season which they drew against a fallen FC Twente and 1 tough game in the JC schaal which they lost 4-0 against what now seems to be a shite PSV (who loses 4-0 to Feyenoord at home ffs) The Sporting game was amazing, but my God, Feyenoord was accused of getting cocky after some good results in this thread
They got "smashed" while being the better team. The red card made the result seem a lot worse than it was.
Well PSG are slightly odds against qualifying from their group, so that makes complete sense. City are consider near shoe-ins to qualify, the model slightly prefers RB to PSG, and PSG already dropped points against the 4th team in the group. If they get to the last 16, their prospects will improve in the model.
I think we'll win but only because I think Ajax will play into our hands. PSV did, at least in the second half. Regardless, I'm just optimistic once again, our inconsistent performers last year are now showing consistency, hopefully we get a CF in January, even on loan as Linssen can't keep this up all season. Reiss Nelson will be a great addition too once he's up to full fitness.Hahaha, I guess we do have a few cocky fans. Good for you mate, but I'm quite positive Ajax will wipe the floor with us
It's partially true only though. Even if you look at the model from 30th Aug, PSG are the 9th favourites in the competition and their SPI is lower than a fair few number of teams
In that case I'm just not sure what you're trying to say. On a good day Ajax can beat anyone? I'm sure they can.
I don't think Ajax need Onana and I think Ajax could go out first round. They will be expected to lose to any opponent in the knockouts.
Basically, and that the odds being a bit more favourable than;
In that case I agree. I also think that saying Ajax are the underdog against all knock out teams is too pessimistic. Especially in the round of 16, I can see quite a few teams that have less quality then Ajax.
I don't know what you want me to say. They failed to win the French league last year. They aren't all that great, despite the stacked squad.
They weren't the better team. Ten Hag saying so doesn't make it true. They got demolished and all the annalists and pundits were unanimous. You're right though that the game isn't representative of Ajax's strength given the circumstances.
I'd lube up if I were you. PSV struggle to break down a low block, Ajax doesn't have that problem. Slot might come and out play, just like Twente did in their draw.
You probably didn't see the match then? Ajax was the better team despite conceding on counters and even after the red card you barely noticed that Ajax was a man down.
Defending doesn't count though. Good defending isn't good only good attacking is good. That's why our national team is always applauded even if we never actually win anything. We might not win, but we look really good not doing it.
