Eredivisie 2021-22

BrilliantOrange said:
Zirkzee will cost way less overall I reckon and at least gives you options besides Bannis/Bozenik..

I think they are still trying to make some money selling Haps and Diemers to make some room in the wage budget at least for some loans/free transfers..
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Zirkzee probably doesn't want to come.

Latest news is they have investors ready but they need to free up wages. They'll try hard to offload players like Diemers, Haps and Texeira and then get a CF.

It's mind boggling they're not looking to sell Malacia to Brugge. They offered 6 million. If they can get it to 8, just keep Haps, there's not much between them and there's your money to buy a CF. That new right back Pedersen looks terrible. Don't tell me they don't have a RB in the academy that runs a lot and can't cross.

It's not a bad squad, just lacks some creativity against a low block like Drita, with 3 players missing in the starting XI and Til not in form. I'd sell Kokcu at any fee. He's the weakest link when they get an okay CF.

CF
Sinisterra Til Jahanbakhsh
Kokcu Toornstra
Malacia Senesi Trauner Geertruida
Bijlow

They had a 16 year old in the preseason named, Milambo. Remember the name, kid looked great. and some lad named Hartjes looked okay as well.

BenitoSTARR said:
I can’t see AZ holding out much longer on Koopmeiners and Wijdnal interest from too many clubs. Hopefully generating a decent fee. My worry is covid will mean sub €20-25 m prices for both.
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They're both incredibly overrated. Wijndal is pretty shit. Look at it this way: Raiola managed to "convince" Nice to get Rosario, but not him.

I'm not sure if Koopmeiners can adjust to a high tempo, looked way off the pace in the U21 Euro, but with him I can see the charm.
 
VanDeBank said:
They're both incredibly overrated. Wijndal is pretty shit. Look at it this way: Raiola managed to "convince" Nice to get Rosario, but not him.

I'm not sure if Koopmeiners can adjust to a high tempo, looked way off the pace in the U21 Euro, but with him I can see the charm.
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Wijndal has a lot of developing to do granted but Koopmeiners is one of the best CMs I’ve seen in the league for a very long time.

He’d be outstanding in Italy IMO. And certainly has the engine to play at a higher tempo just needs a bit of conditioning.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
Wijndal has a lot of developing to do granted but Koopmeiners is one of the best CMs I’ve seen in the league for a very long time.

He’d be outstanding in Italy IMO. And certainly has the engine to play at a higher tempo just needs a bit of conditioning.
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I've rarely seen Koopmeiners work his way out trouble with good close control or start a brilliant dribble.

It's one thing to wait 5 seconds to receive the ball, take your time to turn around and then take 5 seconds to pick a pass in the Eredivsie, but the Bundesliga and PL are on a another level when it comes to pressing. He was poor in the faster paced u21 euros.

The list of midfielders with a good striking technique and a bunch of set piece goals that failed abroad is long.
 
Do or die tonight for Feyenoord at home against FC fecking Drita. Surely we can beat these peasants at home.
 
KirkDuyt said:
Do or die tonight for Feyenoord at home against FC fecking Drita. Surely we can beat these peasants at home.
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1-2 behind at the end of the first half. The mighty Drita showing you how it's done? (Scorebordjournalistiek at its finest; I have no idea how the match is going.)
 
Cheimoon said:
1-2 behind at the end of the first half. The mighty Drita showing you how it's done? (Scorebordjournalistiek at its finest; I have no idea how the match is going.)
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I'm going to Canadian Brabant and fight you:mad:

Re the match, it's not pretty. Drita kicked the ball over the half way line twice and Leroy Fer actively helped convert both into goals.
 
KirkDuyt said:
I'm going to Canadian Brabant and fight you:mad:

Re the match, it's not pretty. Drita kicked the ball over the half way line twice and Leroy Fer actively helped convert both into goals.
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Sounds like you should be scoring some goals then. Full half left still!

If you're at our home though, can you let me know if the contractor installed the leaf guards correctly on our gutters? They came over during our absence and I'm curious. Thanks!
 
Cheimoon said:
Sounds like you should be scoring some goals then. Full half left still!

If you're at our home though, can you let me know if the contractor installed the leaf guards correctly on our gutters? They came over during our absence and I'm curious. Thanks!
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Look at you being able to afford a contractor.
 
KirkDuyt said:
Curse you and your rapier wit.
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Learned a new expression today!

In the meantime, 2-2. Has the away rule already been scrapped or is this still in Drita's advantage?
 
3-2 in the 90th minute, hattrick Til. Who needs Berghuis!
 
Christ my poor heart :lol: I have not celebrated goals this loudly in a while. In the 27th qualifying round for the uefa pubteam Cup against FC Drita.

Christ I hate/love Feyenoord.
 
Great start for Guus Til, already a legend!

Damn it Kokcu was bad huh..
 
KirkDuyt said:
Harsh on Fer to only name Kokcu. I'm half convinced Fer put money on Drita.
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True obviously indeed, but I expected more from Kokcu.. I was quite enthousiastic about him when he first came around, but has been underwhelming even since..
 
VanDeBank said:
They're both incredibly overrated. Wijndal is pretty shit. Look at it this way: Raiola managed to "convince" Nice to get Rosario, but not him.

I'm not sure if Koopmeiners can adjust to a high tempo, looked way off the pace in the U21 Euro, but with him I can see the charm.
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You are a real typicall Feyenoord fanboy :D. I can feel your frustration.
Over and over I read posts by Feyenoord fans, telling us how bad AZ players are and how good Feyenoord players are. And still AZ beats Feyenoord.

Feyenoord bought 2 ex AZ players and those are instantly the best players Feyenoord has. Without Those 2, Feyenoord would have been out of European football this year. That says it all. If Arnesen/Slot could buy Koopmeiners and Wijndal they would buy them without a blink of an eye.
 
Multatuli said:
You are a real typicall Feyenoord fanboy :D. I can feel your frustration.
Over and over I read posts by Feyenoord fans, telling us how bad AZ players are and how good Feyenoord players are. And still AZ beats Feyenoord.

Feyenoord bought 2 ex AZ players and those are instantly the best players Feyenoord has. Without Those 2, Feyenoord would have been out of European football this year. That says it all. If Arnesen/Slot could buy Koopmeiners and Wijndal they would buy them without a blink of an eye.
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Dude I dont think VanDeBank mentioned anything about Feyenoord, let alone suggesting Koopmeiners and Wijndal are nót good enough for Feyenoord.. Looks more like you are desperately looking for a hook to place AZ over Feyenoord..

Wijndal is a good prospect but still very raw if you ask me..
Koopmeiners is a very good player but its still the question if he could offer the same contribution in build up in leagues where he gets less time and space (handelingssnelheid is not his strongest point, a bit like Schone). But he is still young and hardly challenged at a higher level, so he has everything to prove, but he could also still show he can adapt quickly and develop into a very good player in top leagues.
 
Multatuli said:
You are a real typicall Feyenoord fanboy :D. I can feel your frustration.
Over and over I read posts by Feyenoord fans, telling us how bad AZ players are and how good Feyenoord players are. And still AZ beats Feyenoord.

Feyenoord bought 2 ex AZ players and those are instantly the best players Feyenoord has. Without Those 2, Feyenoord would have been out of European football this year. That says it all. If Arnesen/Slot could buy Koopmeiners and Wijndal they would buy them without a blink of an eye.
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I don't think that's my frustration you're feeling there, bud :)
 
I don't know what AZ have with France, but that's the third of their players going there now. After Stengs going to Nice and Bizot to Brest, Boadu is now going to Monaco.

I'm most surprised about Bizot actually. He's a good goalkeeper and Brest only finished 17th in Ligue 1 last year. You'd say that's a step down from AZ. But maybe he's trying to get some international attention. Also, AZ will have a tough fight on its hands next year finishing high up in the league again, with so many of its key players departing. Jansen will have to work wonders!
Multatuli said:
You are a real typicall Feyenoord fanboy :D. I can feel your frustration.
Over and over I read posts by Feyenoord fans, telling us how bad AZ players are and how good Feyenoord players are. And still AZ beats Feyenoord.

Feyenoord bought 2 ex AZ players and those are instantly the best players Feyenoord has. Without Those 2, Feyenoord would have been out of European football this year. That says it all. If Arnesen/Slot could buy Koopmeiners and Wijndal they would buy them without a blink of an eye.
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What the hell are you on about; she isn't even a Feyenoord fan! :lol:
 
Cheimoon said:
I don't know what AZ have with France, but that's the third of their players going there now. After Stengs going to Nice and Bizot to Brest, Boadu is now going to Monaco.

I'm most surprised about Bizot actually. He's a good goalkeeper and Brest only finished 17th in Ligue 1 last year. You'd say that's a step down from AZ. But maybe he's trying to get some international attention. Also, AZ will have a tough fight on its hands next year finishing high up in the league again, with so many of its key players departing. Jansen will have to work wonders!
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It's just the current food chain I think: the top four leagues buy out Ligue 1 clubs, leaving them with, relatively speaking, a lot of money and holes in their squad and they then turn to tier two (as in the ones who aren't playing CL with Ajax or standing out to the degree of Malen) Eredivisie players and offer them to play in Europe's biggest shopping window.
Brest for example sold two players for €12m each to Southampton in the last two years.

It's also worth noting that Raiola represents most of these players and that he now has four clients at Nice.
 
do.ob said:
It's just the current food chain I think: the top four leagues buy out Ligue 1 clubs, leaving them with, relatively speaking, a lot of money and holes in their squad and they then turn to tier two (as in the ones who aren't playing CL with Ajax or standing out to the degree of Malen) Eredivisie players and offer them to play in Europe's biggest shopping window.
Brest for example sold two players for €12m each to Southampton in the last two years.

It's also worth noting that Raiola represents most of these players and that he now has four clients at Nice.
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Yeah I know. But Dutch players used to move to France very rarely; and now you've got a cohort joining Nice (well, Rosario isn't Dutch but also from the Eredivisie), and three players from a single club going there. As much as it's logical, it is a new development.
 
Cheimoon said:
Yeah I know. But Dutch players used to move to France very rarely; and now you've got a cohort joining Nice (well, Rosario isn't Dutch but also from the Eredivisie), and three players from a single club going there. As much as it's logical, it is a new development.
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Rosario is Dutch
 
Multatuli said:
You are a real typicall Feyenoord fanboy :D. I can feel your frustration.
Over and over I read posts by Feyenoord fans, telling us how bad AZ players are and how good Feyenoord players are. And still AZ beats Feyenoord.

Feyenoord bought 2 ex AZ players and those are instantly the best players Feyenoord has. Without Those 2, Feyenoord would have been out of European football this year. That says it all. If Arnesen/Slot could buy Koopmeiners and Wijndal they would buy them without a blink of an eye.
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You have? When? And where? :lol:
 
Bazoer is in the line up for Vitesse against Dundalk. Will be interesting to see where they stand now that Broja is back at Chelsea, Pasveer went to Ajax, and Tannane gained 20lbs over the summer.



Cheimoon said:
Also, AZ will have a tough fight on its hands next year finishing high up in the league again, with so many of its key players departing. Jansen will have to work wonders!
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The thing with AZ is, you always expect them to take a sabbatical after a window like this, but no, they always have a bunch of kids lined up that start firing immediately.

Boadu (and Koopmeiners) were very important last year, but some of their others players don't get the credits they deserve, Midtsjo and Karlsson in particular. Probably because they're not Dutch.

do.ob said:
It's also worth noting that Raiola represents most of these players and that he now has four clients at Nice.
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I highly doubt Nice would've gone for Rosario if he wasn't somehow involved with Raiola and the other deals. This is the man that got Van der Wiel to PSG following Zlatan's transfer.
 
Vitesse was shit. Wittek and Doekhi are their only good players. Bazoer oozed class. I don't see them making playoffs, unless Chelsea sends them some talent.

Feyenoord seems solid enough at the back. They just need to replace Kokcu, Toornstra and Fer with training cones to save a million in wages. I can't imagine Slot not introducing some academy players in midfield as the season progresses.
 
KirkDuyt said:
Guus Til is quickly becoming my hero.
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He is a lovely cheerful guy as well, listened to a podcast he was in.. Not much to dislike.

Great call by Slot to drop Leroy Fer. Kokcu Toornsta Til Sinisterra Linssen Jahanbaksh upfront is quite ok, especially if you can replace Linssen with an actual #9.
 
BrilliantOrange said:
He is a lovely cheerful guy as well, listened to a podcast he was in.. Not much to dislike.

Great call by Slot to drop Leroy Fer. Kokcu Toornsta Til Sinisterra Linssen Jahanbaksh upfront is quite ok, especially if you can replace Linssen with an actual #9.
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It really boggles the mind that they're not looking to extend with Haps and sell Malacia to Brugge. They've offered €6M.
 
VanDeBank said:
It really boggles the mind that they're not looking to extend with Haps and sell Malacia to Brugge. They've offered €6M.
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Though 6 million would be well received, I really like Malacia and want him to stay honestly.
 
Tend to agree with KirkDuyt here on Malacia.. Haps will run out of contract next year and is also a bit older.. Malacia is a youthproduct and there is still room for him to grow.. If he develops its not unlikely for him to get a national cap this year which will only increase his value. He also just renewed his contract.. Moreover Haps has proven to be quite prone to injury..

The thing that boggles the mind is that Feyenoord actually managed to buy Jahanbaksh..
 
I don't think Feyenoord are in a position to be sentimental or greedy. The money can get them a good CF and an improved contract for Haps. There's also the possibility of Malacia losing the hype and his value plummeting. Remember they declined Newcastle's €15m for Jorgensen :lol:

Both Ajax and PSV with their strongest line ups tonight!

Haller
Tadic Klaassen Berghuis
Blind Gravenberch
Tagliafico Martinez Timber Mazraoui
Pasveer

Zahavi
Gakpo Gotze Madueke
Van Ginkel Sangare
Max Boscagli Ramalho Mwene
Drommel​
 
This Madueke guy is literally unstoppable, two goals against Ajax now. He is the next English star, as talented as any of the other young English forwards in my book. Unreal.
 
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