blake836 said:I can only imagine it was because of my m8's tatoo's.
what kind of tattoo's ?
blake836 said:I can only imagine it was because of my m8's tatoo's.
Nialler said:what kind of tattoo's ?
compulsive liar, oh and text speak isn't allowed on the forum m8blake836 said:I can only imagine it was because of my m8's tatoo's.
You are aware that the taxpayers of the south are investing money in "your countrys" infrastructure?blake836 said:I have no intrest in what happens in the country that borders mine.
blake836 said:Prick
What do you mean by this?WeasteDevil said:As for the United Ireland thing, the UK should never really have been split in the first place.
Small Paul said:What do you mean by this?
The UK should encompass the whole island of Ireland or something else?
WeasteDevil said:You even had a civil war over the matter
WeasteDevil said:It once did. As I said, the main reason for the Republic becoming a republic was because of feckwits sat in London and the way they treated Ireland. You can also blame the Dutch and the English Reformation and all the shit that caused on the mainland.
You even had a civil war over the matter. IMO the Irish free state was a slight step too far in making Ireland a dominion; as I said, they should have gone federal long before it even happened (50 years before).
WeasteDevil said:
He's actually right on the technical level, the current situation in Northern Ireland makes it a nation within a state, in this case the UK, no different to England, Scotland, or Wales, England being the odd one out in that it actually has no government (standing or proposed) of its own.
As for the United Ireland thing, the UK should never really have been split in the first place. But you can blame the cnuts that were sat in Whitehall at the time for that. They should have set up a federal system at the height of the industrial revolution, it would have made sense. The home nations should have had majority control over their own domestic policies, with the British government sat in London dealing with nothing more than Foreign policy, upholding the law, and Fiscal/Monetary policy at the highest level - Interest rates/Base level of national taxes.
The fact that this has never been done will eventually lead to the entire UK being split into 4 separate nation states, and even possibly England splitting in the longer term. The feckwits sat in London for whatever reason centralised every important national institution there and have cause one hell of a lot of bitterness by treating the working classes like shite (yes in every part of the UK). There are even theories that they purposely chopped the heads off the like of Manchester and Liverpool to stop their economic power rising. The toffs were seriously worried that we were getting out of control and far too powerful. Lancashire's thread made Britain's Bread is not too far away from the truth. At one point, Liverpool in financial, shipping, insurance, and other merchant services did rival London. Manchester made the shit, they serviced it. It was at one time a very symbiotic and fruitful relationship until they decided to be parasitic in their service charges. Scouse cnuts!
Southern cnuts!
Wibble said:We have a federal system in Oz and it is an utter disaster. All sorts of functions are wastefully replicated. Bureaucracy gone mad with any issue that crosses state lines. Different driving licences and road laws.
A centralised system would save Australia billions of dollars a year.
Nialler said:it most certainly wasn't !
WeasteDevil said:Yes, it almost exists in Spain as well, but there are 4 (5 if you want to include Europe) tiers of it which will obviously cost money.
Driving licences and road laws are obviously things for central government to do.
And for your argument to hold, why the hell have town halls and not do everything out of London?
Given the inherant uselessness of local councils it sounds like a bloody good idea.
The downfall is that the logical extension of this is that you end up with and efficient one person dictatorship.
The point is, you could have with only four nations a small British parliament of say 10 people and stick the rest in their own national capital cities. Dublin/Belfast (I was talking in the past), Edinburgh, Cardiff, what the hell - Hull. Non of the MPs from Wales, Scotland, Ireland, or England would need to be in London full stop. I can see serious savings here just on this single point.
Small Paul said:Well the main point here should be that Britian should never have even have been there in the first place. The cival war was about whether we should continue fighting with britian or accept losing the 6 counties ( if i'm honest if blake is anything to go by, im glad we didnt keep fighting for them )
Wibble said:Ethnic cleansing?
see post 125.blake836 said:WeasteDevil talks a lot of sense