Epl? Wtf?

I do a radio show here in Perth and the bloke who does the Premiership always says "and now to the EPL". I always feel like strangling him, but it makes him sound a cnut, so I leave him to it.
 
blake836 said:

:lol:

He's actually right on the technical level, the current situation in Northern Ireland makes it a nation within a state, in this case the UK, no different to England, Scotland, or Wales, England being the odd one out in that it actually has no government (standing or proposed) of its own.

As for the United Ireland thing, the UK should never really have been split in the first place. But you can blame the cnuts that were sat in Whitehall at the time for that. They should have set up a federal system at the height of the industrial revolution, it would have made sense. The home nations should have had majority control over their own domestic policies, with the British government sat in London dealing with nothing more than Foreign policy, upholding the law, and Fiscal/Monetary policy at the highest level - Interest rates/Base level of national taxes.

The fact that this has never been done will eventually lead to the entire UK being split into 4 separate nation states, and even possibly England splitting in the longer term. The feckwits sat in London for whatever reason centralised every important national institution there and have cause one hell of a lot of bitterness by treating the working classes like shite (yes in every part of the UK). There are even theories that they purposely chopped the heads off the like of Manchester and Liverpool to stop their economic power rising. The toffs were seriously worried that we were getting out of control and far too powerful. Lancashire's thread made Britain's Bread is not too far away from the truth. At one point, Liverpool in financial, shipping, insurance, and other merchant services did rival London. Manchester made the shit, they serviced it. It was at one time a very symbiotic and fruitful relationship until they decided to be parasitic in their service charges. Scouse cnuts!

Southern cnuts!
 
Small Paul said:
What do you mean by this?

The UK should encompass the whole island of Ireland or something else?

It once did. As I said, the main reason for the Republic becoming a republic was because of feckwits sat in London and the way they treated Ireland. You can also blame the Dutch and the English Reformation and all the shit that caused on the mainland.

You even had a civil war over the matter. IMO the Irish free state was a slight step too far in making Ireland a dominion; as I said, they should have gone federal long before it even happened (50 years before).
 
WeasteDevil said:
It once did. As I said, the main reason for the Republic becoming a republic was because of feckwits sat in London and the way they treated Ireland. You can also blame the Dutch and the English Reformation and all the shit that caused on the mainland.

You even had a civil war over the matter. IMO the Irish free state was a slight step too far in making Ireland a dominion; as I said, they should have gone federal long before it even happened (50 years before).

Well the main point here should be that Britian should never have even have been there in the first place. The cival war was about whether we should continue fighting with britian or accept losing the 6 counties ( if i'm honest if blake is anything to go by, im glad we didnt keep fighting for them :smirk: )
 
WeasteDevil said:
:lol:

He's actually right on the technical level, the current situation in Northern Ireland makes it a nation within a state, in this case the UK, no different to England, Scotland, or Wales, England being the odd one out in that it actually has no government (standing or proposed) of its own.

As for the United Ireland thing, the UK should never really have been split in the first place. But you can blame the cnuts that were sat in Whitehall at the time for that. They should have set up a federal system at the height of the industrial revolution, it would have made sense. The home nations should have had majority control over their own domestic policies, with the British government sat in London dealing with nothing more than Foreign policy, upholding the law, and Fiscal/Monetary policy at the highest level - Interest rates/Base level of national taxes.

The fact that this has never been done will eventually lead to the entire UK being split into 4 separate nation states, and even possibly England splitting in the longer term. The feckwits sat in London for whatever reason centralised every important national institution there and have cause one hell of a lot of bitterness by treating the working classes like shite (yes in every part of the UK). There are even theories that they purposely chopped the heads off the like of Manchester and Liverpool to stop their economic power rising. The toffs were seriously worried that we were getting out of control and far too powerful. Lancashire's thread made Britain's Bread is not too far away from the truth. At one point, Liverpool in financial, shipping, insurance, and other merchant services did rival London. Manchester made the shit, they serviced it. It was at one time a very symbiotic and fruitful relationship until they decided to be parasitic in their service charges. Scouse cnuts!

Southern cnuts!

We have a federal system in Oz and it is an utter disaster. All sorts of functions are wastefully replicated. Bureaucracy gone mad with any issue that crosses state lines. Different driving licences and road laws.

A centralised system would save Australia billions of dollars a year.
 
Wibble said:
We have a federal system in Oz and it is an utter disaster. All sorts of functions are wastefully replicated. Bureaucracy gone mad with any issue that crosses state lines. Different driving licences and road laws.

A centralised system would save Australia billions of dollars a year.

Yes, it almost exists in Spain as well, but there are 4 (5 if you want to include Europe) tiers of it which will obviously cost money.

Driving licences and road laws are obviously things for central government to do.

And for your argument to hold, why the hell have town halls and not do everything out of London? The point is, you could have with only four nations a small British parliament of say 10 people and stick the rest in their own national capital cities. Dublin/Belfast (I was talking in the past), Edinburgh, Cardiff, what the hell - Hull. Non of the MPs from Wales, Scotland, Ireland, or England would need to be in London full stop. I can see serious savings here just on this single point.
 
Nialler said:
it most certainly wasn't !

Yes it certainly was! Free-State without Ulster or Republic.......

The trouble with Celts is they would always prefer to fight amongst themselves rather than unite to get rid of the common enemy. This is the reason why the Sais got into England in the first place.
 
WeasteDevil said:
Yes, it almost exists in Spain as well, but there are 4 (5 if you want to include Europe) tiers of it which will obviously cost money.

Driving licences and road laws are obviously things for central government to do.

And for your argument to hold, why the hell have town halls and not do everything out of London?

Given the inherant uselessness of local councils it sounds like a bloody good idea.

The downfall is that the logical extension of this is that you end up with and efficient one person dictatorship.


The point is, you could have with only four nations a small British parliament of say 10 people and stick the rest in their own national capital cities. Dublin/Belfast (I was talking in the past), Edinburgh, Cardiff, what the hell - Hull. Non of the MPs from Wales, Scotland, Ireland, or England would need to be in London full stop. I can see serious savings here just on this single point.

Ethnic cleansing? ;)
 
Small Paul said:
Well the main point here should be that Britian should never have even have been there in the first place. The cival war was about whether we should continue fighting with britian or accept losing the 6 counties ( if i'm honest if blake is anything to go by, im glad we didnt keep fighting for them :smirk: )

Firstly, Britain is a geographical term, not a political one (some cnuts over time have tried to twist it into meaning such however)! The main island in the British Isles is called "Great Britain" because it is the largest island of archipelago known as Britannia. Nothing more, nothing less. Yes, Ireland is really "Little Britain", just not the littlest, that could go to Inish or other I'm quite sure.

Secondly, I don't see why the English/"British"/Saxons/Dutch/GodKnowsWhatElse should not have been there. Using that reasoning, neither should the Celts have been there. Celts are not indigenous to the British Isles. The Romans, Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Vikings, Normans........ should never have been in England should they? Trouble is that they were, and it has defined what we are, like it or fecking well not!

Thirdly, your view of the Civil War is naive at best.

Fourthly, if the free state had been given Ulster there could well have been a greater bloodbath than you could very well imagine.

It's all called a total fecking cockup!
 
Wibble said:
Ethnic cleansing? ;)

:lol:

Town halls in England are nothing more than puppets to central government in any case. They can't even pick their own arses without asking London for permission. Basically they are responsible for filling in potholes and collecting the rubbish. If they want to build a tram line, they are not allowed to borrow money without London's permission, so they have to go begging on their knees to the cock who happens to be Transport Secretary at the time, give cost estimates, and then wait 8 years for the cnut to come back saying that the sums don't add up because it will now cost three times more than forecast so you are getting nowt. Of course it costs three times more you feckwit, you've just taken 8 years making a simple decision.
 
The councils here are equally fecking useless. The council I live in pander to 6 greenies and a small group of retards who don't want any new building built and want anything over 20 years old to be given heritage protection no matter how ugly, deralict or worthless.

The council are forever refusing planning permission unreasonably, against legal advice, and then they get their arses handed to them in the Land Courts.

They recently spent $300,000 fighting a case their own lawyers told them they would lose and they also lost $500,000 of stuff the developer was going to do to keep them happy.

Retards of the highest order.
 
So who would win a fight, America or England? Is the term "EPL" now allowed or not? Are Americans as hated as Blacks 100 years ago? Questions I really need an answer...

Cant be arsed to read through 4 pages...