He wasn't tearing the World Cup apart to be valued at 120 million. It's really weird.
Enzo Fernández | signs for Chelsea
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I don't really see the downside for Benfica if they just wait until summer. There will be more clubs interested and able to pay the money so they'll likely still get the release clause then.
Doesn't seem like Enzo has gone on strike either so it's now like he'll down tools.
Doesn't seem like Enzo has gone on strike either so it's now like he'll down tools.
How is this a Galacticos thing when this page doesn't seem to rate half the players we brought in and most of them are young upcoming potential WC players not already established superstars? Non of Badiashile, Gusto, D. Fofana, Madueke, Santos and Mudryk are established superstars. Felix is here on loan, Enzo got so much recognition because of the World Cup and it might not even get done.
I don’t think anyone but Chelsea will pay the fee.
The fee isn’t the problem it’s the timing. He’s been there for half a friggin season.
You are seeing the same with Caicedo.
This kind of money? I don't think many clubs would believe that a guy who was was purchased for €10m in June 2022 and has done quite well in the Portuguese league for four months, is worth this kind of outlay. The World Cup win with Argentina has seen his value soar - Benfica should grab any €100m+ offer with both hands - they may not get another one.
Chelsea deserve to be liquidated.
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Indeed. The market is currently out of control. A few decent months can increase a player's value by a factor of 10? It is nonsensical. Some of these deals will look very silly is a couple of years' time (I hope Antony is not among them).
He’s a player who just turned 22 a few days ago, is the heartbeat of the World Cup winners, and has apparently been fantastic from his time in Argentina with River up to now. Yes, it’s insane money but nobody seems to have a problem saying Bellingham is worth £120-150m and they’re in a similar age bracket and play a similar position on the pitch.
Bellingham has had two/three seasons performing in the Bundesliga and Championship.
If you guys get Enzo, you've spent £600m or so on players in a year and your best defender is still Thiago Silva and best midfielder is still Kovacic.
Is that supposed to be some sort of gotcha? Thiago Silva is the best CB in the league and Kova is one of the best midfielders in the league and all Chelsea supporters love him.
Benfica supposedly holding out for the buyout being triggered only. Chelsea want to pay the same fee but over a set period so they can put it down on their books over the length of the deal. Triggering the buyout cause means it'll all be put down on this year's accounts and I don't think Chelsea, will have the FFP wiggle room to do that.
Had completely forgotten about Nkunku. I agree this is another good buy.
Haha. 'You've spent a ton on (young) defenders but your best defender is still the best centre back in the league'
Name one better? VVD has gone off the boil for a while now.
Top 5 at best.
Wait, you actually think he’s the best CB in the league?
Either pay the release clause or you don't...seems like a simple message given to them by Benfica
300m on young defenders and your best is still the 38 year old you signed for free.
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Varane and martinez are better for a start. That's not united fan bias either. I'd 100% take both them over thiago silva.
Not to take part in this dick waving contest on who's the best CB in the league but our best defender is very much Reece James.
I do indeed. Nearly 40 years old and still putting in world class, man of the match caliber performances every week.
Thiago silva is at least in conversation for it. The guy is class.
Saliba, Varane, Martinez have been the top 3 in the league this season.
The way people involved are speaking about the deal are really starting to soften.
Those 3 have all been great, you’re right. But I wouldn’t take any this season over Thiago Silva.
But anyways, sorry for derailing this thread. I won’t argue anymore about this pointless topic.
It isn't a ridiculous take or something to be laughed at. He is definitely one of the best CBs in the league.
Botman deserves a shout too. Add Thiago Silva and that's probably the top 5 in some order.
Wouldn't say Silva is definitively the best or anything but it's not a ludicrous position.
Silva isn’t the best CB in the league but fair to have him in the conversation.
He’s leaving this summer though I imagine so big boots to fill.
Think he's about to agree an extension with us actually.
Fair, wasn't sure who from Newcastle to say as I haven't specifically paid attention to if there was a standout defender or it's just been more their overall team playing well and solidly, haven't watched enough of them to say really. Also tbf to Silva, can't say that I watch Chelsea every week or when I do it's not like I pay attention to him like I do with Varane and Martinez. Still class obviously.
He had a really good World Cup and as we've seen many times before, performing well on that stage will massively inflate a player's value. As we have also seen in the past, subsequent seasons often prove that initial transfer outlay to have been poor value. Bellingham is a more dynamic, better rounded midfielder with much more European football under his belt, but even for him, I'd say £150m is absolutely crazy - I cannot imagine any club paying that, save perhaps for PSG.
In the end, Chelsea's new owners have pledged £1.75bn of investment in players and infrastructure over 10 years, so even if Fernandez does not work out, there will be plenty left in the pot for further reinforcements. In that sense, the risk to Chelsea is low (although I note that just six months in we are getting on for 30% of the way through that pledged 10-year investment). I do think that there is a lot of big, dumb money being thrown around at the moment though, in lieu of decent scouting.
Interesting. He could have a big drop off at 39 or continue as he is.
Yeah given he's going to be 39 very soon after next season starts it's a bit of a gamble and the drop-off can be very quick once it starts to set but also I'd say it's a low-risk gamble because even on his current deal he's on a very reasonable salary (£110K/wk) and the extension would probably be on the same terms or less. If he can still contribute like this season it's great news but if not then we'll just have to rely on the others more and Silva will be more of a dressing room and training pitch leader which can still be a very important role, especially in a young-ish squad.
Would love to keep Silva till he retires and have him join the staff in some capacity after that. Him and his family seem to really enjoy life in London so it's a possibility.
Re: Newcastle a bit of both I think but Botman has impressed me quite a bit whenever I've watched - think he's had a huge impact on them.
And weirdly I have been even more impressed by Thiago Silva than in prior years - our system is so chaotic and lacking in control to the point of being non-existent, plus the players around him are far worse. He's really been a one-man rock holding it all together, even if our overall numbers are awful we'd be miles worse off without him. So I'd still have him up there but not definitively the standout in the league or anything like that (unless we're talking specifically about CB quality on the ball where he remains probably the best in the world).
Properly overstating his importance there.
Sure sign they have buckled in the end, ah well will have to hope De Jong has grown a set or Mac Allister fancies joining Lisandro
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