What's the opposite of a rain dance
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Butch Cassidy will know.
Rock up in speedos shirtless…show them how warm the English summer is
Brook’s not really got the hell for leather memo yet
Brook - lash out or get out pal
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the likes of brook and stokes can press the accelerator at the drop of a hat. every chance brook catches up and ends up a run a ball by the end.
Great start.
This is a truly bizarre world where I'm watching this and thinking - should we get 200 in front? 300? ... without even entertaining the idea that Aussies would be able to get us all out before that.
Jonathan Agnew was saying on TMS last night about getting 200 ahead by lunch and then declaring.
The weather forecast is so bad for the next 2 days we should just declare now.
Yeah this feels like the plan. Unless we get some play on Sunday it still feels too hard, but think it’s the best approach in the circumstances.
not enough scoreboard pressure. we need to be able to set attacking fields and not worry about the runs. need at least two hundred and go at them.
Sunday is weird - Google have it at a 80% chance it rains all day. Met office have it at 40%, BBC have it at 70%... so it's a bit up in the air.
Then again, BBC and Met reckon it's going to rain in the next hour, where as Google doesn't.
Think we'll declare at lunch regardless.
Why? We're going to have hardly any time either bowling or batting on Saturday and Sunday. As it stands it's either going to be a draw or we can bowl the Aussies out leaving a small total for us to chase in between rain delays on the weekend. If we just continue as we are then we run the risk of not being able to be in a situation to chase whatever total they end up with.That would be a bad idea
How accurate are the weather predictions for Manchester usually?
Can we afford to wait until it reaches 200 lead with weather looking so iffy for weekend
Long may it remain there.
The second it hits lunch, declare.
it could be sunny and a road for three days too. you still have to play the pitch and the match conditions. the pitch looks ok for the aussies getting at least 300 again. there’s a reason the aussies haven’t taken the new ball. i think we declare now and the aussies are 200-3 at the end of the day, and the test is over with or without bad weather. more scoreboard pressure means we can shove in 10 slips.
Aussie's were complaining about the ball yesterday now they don't want to take the new ball.
most likely because it won’t do a lot and will fly off the bat. same reason why we may as well get runs now than bowl at them in the same conditions.
why not keep going?
When was the last time 5 of our 6 opening batsmen got half centuries?
Why? Given the weather this match is all about taking 10 Australian wickets. Runs are almost secondary in the sense that you literally can't win without taking those 10. I'm very surprised they didn't declare last night. Its all well and good getting all your runs in the first innings if you then get 30 overs to bowl them out.That would be a bad idea
There's no scoreboard pressure on Australia. If they have to survive 50 overs that's their job, they won't care if they're 100 behind or 1000. Even if we declared last night with a lead of 50 we would still have to set attacking fields. If you then bowl them for 200 then you have something to chase. There's no point at all in that case defending boundaries when its all about taking wickets.
Yes but we need a big enough lead so we can get the 10 Australian wickets and not have to go out and bat again, we're in a good rhythm in terms of batting and the conditions are helping, I reckon we declare at lunch regardless of how much we're up by but it's better to get a big enough lead right now and try to get them all out without having to go out and bat again, which would not have been the case had we declared last night.
The weather looks shit the next couple of days and England need a win so they can’t bat all day and have enough time to bowl Australia out again most likely, if they do it’ll be a draw as they’ll run out of time.
Start swinging for the fences this last hour before lunch. Get Mark Wood out there!
I like this serious posting @rimaldo
Cannot agree. Given the weather we don't know if there's 40 overs left in this game, 60 or whatever. Any runs we score now are completely meaningless if you don't take 10 wickets. Would we rather get a lead of 200 and have them 5 or 6 down before the washout or bowl them out and have to quickly chase 100 runs in whatever time is left? The latter by a mile.
If it says 'rain' then very.
I keep waiting for us to move up a gear and it's not really happening. Aussie's are bowing better to be fair.
And this now resurfaces the question of draws in test cricket. Why in God's name can a test match not be won in two innings after over 180 overs?
The first test vs Pakistan?
New ball at last, should help move things on either way
Good shout - had a check though and Root and Stokes both got under 50 (the other four all got 100 + )
Because it’s a four innings match. That’s like asking why a T20 can’t be won after the first 20 overs.
This just doesn’t seem to make logical sense to me, though I’m absolutely not an expert, and I’d be pleased to be enlightened.
Are you saying that England scoring another 50 runs now doesn’t mean anything? Surely it saves time at the end because England are less likely to need to bat again if the Aussie target (to match our score) is 200. If we declare now we save time, sure. But if the Aussies then score 250 then we’ll need 100 runs not 50 runs, so that ‘saved’ time will be needed again at the end, but on a roughed up wicket.
Exactly my point. Better to bat now while the conditions are favourable. There's no guarantee it will be the the same condition after the rained off Saturday.
his heel touched the shadow of the boundary rope. cheating bastards.