Dobba
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Sounds far too expensive for Reeves' fiscal rules, so blaming immigrants it is.The country has major deep rooted issues. People are rightfully angry as all our communities are suffering with the way things have been run.
Sounds far too expensive for Reeves' fiscal rules, so blaming immigrants it is.The country has major deep rooted issues. People are rightfully angry as all our communities are suffering with the way things have been run.
If they directed their anger at the right people that would mean admitting they’ve been taken for fools for years.they have legitimate reasons to be angry. it’s just not funnelled at the right cause or people.
Ah it's shocking. 100%. An essential job meant to be about keeping society safe, and they're catching bricks from chav cnuts for shite pay.Same here.
I feel sorry for the Police. I know some of them are cnuts, but most of them are trying to do their job and protect the public.
Just watching on Sky and a female officer that can’t be more than about 5’5” got her shield kicked by a guy and fell over. Imagine spending your Sunday afternoon doing that.
they want their pay packets to cover their bills and weekly shop. they want to be able to go on holiday once a year with their kids. they want to be able to afford a house. they want to get a doctor’s appointment, and a hospital bed when they need one. they want to drive on roads that don’t resemble a minefield. they’ve been constantly lied to, constantly told who is to blame, and they’re lashing out.Maddening scenes. What do they hope to achieve? What do they even want?
Oof a fellow Whitby-oik. Was born there myself!Wouldn’t know, I was doing a triathlon in the depths of Norway. Think there were some down the road, but I have zero interest in “causes” that have been hijacked by idiots.
He’s in Cyprus according to the Mail (not linking obviously as that rag has helped stoke this atmosphere).The Spanish have housed far worse Brits rather than co-operate on extraditions
I’m sadly not that optimistic. However, it does seem as though a lot of the thugs are stupid enough to make themselves easily identified.It’s actually encouraging how many people are disavowing this. I think in the long term, this might do some good?
true. though who likes to admit they’re wrong or have been conned? unfortunately with the media, x, the likes of russia and the greed of the rich, there’s never going to be a light bulb moment for the majority of them.If they directed their anger at the right people that would mean admitting they’ve been taken for fools for years.
they want their pay packets to cover their bills and weekly shop. they want to be able to go on holiday once a year with their kids. they want to be able to afford a house. they want to get a doctor’s appointment, and a hospital bed when they need one. they want to drive on roads that don’t resemble a minefield. they’ve been constantly lied to, constantly told who is to blame, and they’re lashing out.
pretending this is all just the work of a few narrow minded racists is only going to make the problem worse. they deserve to be angry. they should just be burning down the offices of the daily mail instead.
The leading cause, I would say. Every little helps and I can see why people also point to figures like Robinson and Farage, as well as the senior figures of both main parties who whipped things up during the election, but the Mail remains the leading promoter of fascism in this country.He’s in Cyprus according to the Mail (not linking obviously as that rag has helped stoke this atmosphere).
I think you're right, the numbers on the streets haven't been nearly as many as feared and though they have done some atrocious stuff, counter protests have generally been bigger.I really hope so. The vile truth of this cause is now evident,
All this.they want their pay packets to cover their bills and weekly shop. they want to be able to go on holiday once a year with their kids. they want to be able to afford a house. they want to get a doctor’s appointment, and a hospital bed when they need one. they want to drive on roads that don’t resemble a minefield. they’ve been constantly lied to, constantly told who is to blame, and they’re lashing out.
pretending this is all just the work of a few narrow minded racists is only going to make the problem worse. they deserve to be angry. they should just be burning down the offices of the daily mail instead.
Absolutely.they want their pay packets to cover their bills and weekly shop. they want to be able to go on holiday once a year with their kids. they want to be able to afford a house. they want to get a doctor’s appointment, and a hospital bed when they need one. they want to drive on roads that don’t resemble a minefield. they’ve been constantly lied to, constantly told who is to blame, and they’re lashing out.
pretending this is all just the work of a few narrow minded racists is only going to make the problem worse. they deserve to be angry. they should just be burning down the offices of the daily mail instead.
100%they want their pay packets to cover their bills and weekly shop. they want to be able to go on holiday once a year with their kids. they want to be able to afford a house. they want to get a doctor’s appointment, and a hospital bed when they need one. they want to drive on roads that don’t resemble a minefield. they’ve been constantly lied to, constantly told who is to blame, and they’re lashing out.
pretending this is all just the work of a few narrow minded racists is only going to make the problem worse. they deserve to be angry. they should just be burning down the offices of the daily mail instead.
It’s actually encouraging how many people are disavowing this. I think in the long term, this might do some good?
“there the only ones that can fix the country”Absolutely.
But, they've just given Farage and Tice a nice big ticket to continue treading on us all instead.
would be rude not to.100%
But we still get to hammer the racists ?
Yes, you can't get squeamish about punching nazis when your community is under threat.100%
But we still get to hammer the racists ?
Only partly, Musk didn't turn Twitter in it to what it's become, he just let it grow worse
To be fair...in their version of "fix", and the uniforms that come with it, they are close to being right.“there the only ones that can fix the country”
Musk has made Twitter a breeding ground for the right wing facists. Nothing is off limits now, there is no moderation, just out and out racism.I admire your optimism, but I don't share it.
I've had a peak at some of the right wing social media outlets/talking heads on twitter/youtube, and the comments are all supportive, claiming victimhood, denying accountability etc. It's worrying. Examples include:
- Consistently referencing 'peaceful protests' and 'unity demonstrations'
- Showing clips of a white person being arrested out of context of what they were arrested for, with headings like 'arrested for peacefully protesting'
- Showing clips out of context of a fight involving some white people and non-white people, with headings like 'muslims attack random civilian' - in one case, the individual in question has been shown in images and videos posted here to have been making a nazi salute, and evidently dressed like a fecking nazi. Hardly a random civilian.
- Indirectly praising/defending the rioters for 'having had enough' 'taking back our streets', 'showing the government they business' or suchlike.
- They will be one post in which they make a plea for non-violence, but this is seemingly as some kind of attempt at mitigating any liability for incitement - because they soon follow it up with multiple posts directly praising the rioters.
- Criticising the police and the government for daring to say rioting is bad, and for daring to even attempt to police the riots.
- Insinuating that people opposing the riots (or "peaceful protests") are communists, support rape and the murder of children.
- Zero mention, images or videos of the random violence, criminal damage, assaults etc committed by the rioters.
- A swath of middle class looking people saying "well if these peaceful protestors are far right, then I'm far right too because I also don't like the killing of children!"
Long term, for the situation to be improved there needs to be several things IMO. Firstly, the left, centre, and even soft right wing, need to win the social media battle. Currently, the populists/far-right/provocateurs are winning that battle. They are growing in numbers and belief, not dwindling. The other points I was going to make I can't find the right words to explain what I mean, so I'll leave it at that.
Only partly, Musk didn't turn Twitter in it to what it's become, he just let it grow worse
Musk has made Twitter a breeding ground for the right wing facists. Nothing is off limits now, there is no moderation, just out and out racism.
Pretty much. There’s around 66 million people in Britain and these riots are a few hundred coke heads, divorced dads, football hooligans, retirees, petty criminals/ex convicts, some unemployed, racist young people and vape addicts.I think you're right, the numbers on the streets haven't been nearly as many as feared and though they have done some atrocious stuff, counter protests have generally been bigger.
I admire your optimism, but I don't share it.
I've had a peak at some of the right wing social media outlets/talking heads on twitter/youtube, and the comments are all supportive, claiming victimhood, denying accountability etc. It's worrying. Examples include:
- Consistently referencing 'peaceful protests' and 'unity demonstrations'
- Showing clips of a white person being arrested out of context of what they were arrested for, with headings like 'arrested for peacefully protesting'
- Showing clips out of context of a fight involving some white people and non-white people, with headings like 'muslims attack random civilian' - in one case, the individual in question has been shown in images and videos posted here to have been making a nazi salute, and evidently dressed like a fecking nazi. Hardly a random civilian.
- Indirectly praising/defending the rioters for 'having had enough' 'taking back our streets', 'showing the government they business' or suchlike.
- They will be one post in which they make a plea for non-violence, but this is seemingly as some kind of attempt at mitigating any liability for incitement - because they soon follow it up with multiple posts directly praising the rioters.
- Criticising the police and the government for daring to say rioting is bad, and for daring to even attempt to police the riots.
- Insinuating that people opposing the riots (or "peaceful protests") are communists, support rape and the murder of children.
- Zero mention, images or videos of the random violence, criminal damage, assaults etc committed by the rioters.
- A swath of middle class looking people saying "well if these peaceful protestors are far right, then I'm far right too because I also don't like the killing of children!"
Long term, for the situation to be improved there needs to be several things IMO. Firstly, the left, centre, and even soft right wing, need to win the social media battle. Currently, the populists/far-right/provocateurs are winning that battle. They are growing in numbers and belief, not dwindling. The other points I was going to make I can't find the right words to explain what I mean, so I'll leave it at that.
Sky keeps calling them protestors. Humza Yousaf chastised them for it, and they stopped for about 10 minutes, before going back to it.That's an absolute disgrace.
i think you’ll be surprised how many will be watching this on their tvs, thinking “good, about time.”Pretty much. There’s around 66 million people in Britain and these riots are a few hundred coke heads, divorced dads, football hooligans, retirees, petty criminals/ex convicts, some unemployed, racist young people and vape addicts.
This type of “politics” has no mass appeal in the UK.
I mean…..vaping and violent rampages are really not that synonymous. Probably not worthy of being lumped in with ex convictsPretty much. There’s around 66 million people in Britain and these riots are a few hundred coke heads, divorced dads, football hooligans, retirees, petty criminals/ex convicts, some unemployed, racist young people and vape addicts.
This type of “politics” has no mass appeal in the UK.
new trainers and a cheese and bean bake is fair recompense for taking the country back.The people in a lot of these chavvy northern towns seem to do their clothes shopping exclusively at JD Sports, so no surprise it's their top looting target.
Yep. We are so quick to overlook how backward the world still is whilst thinking we are so forward. Even if it's not about politics (most of these cretins don't even know what that is), we really are no more advanced than when kings ruled over peasants and had instigators to do their bidding and making sure the anger lashes out at each.i think you’ll be surprised how many will be watching this on their tvs, thinking “good, about time.”
look how many voted reform.
Absolutely this. I advocate for an anarchist society but honestly people like Steven Yaxley-Lennon should be given whole life orders.Yep and the wanker has pissed off to Spain after skipping court. Find him and drag the Cnut back and lock away the key.