Which communities, what issues, and decrypted in what way?
England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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Which communities, what issues, and decrypted in what way?
Starmer didn't email him saying his antivirus software had expired. Disgusting from the PM in my opinion.
Now try listing the attacks in the UK which were not Islamic attacks.
If you cared to research it, instead of regurgitating the rubbish you're reading online, the list would be much longer. Your post is an absolute melon.
As has been proven since the dawn of time, using your brain doesn't change government policy. The only solution is to drink ten pints of Stella and punch black pedestrians who are just trying to walk past you during your riot.
This thread is horrible, sad reading. So often when tragedies happen people really do reach deep into themselves to pull out the ugliness. Many should be very ashamed of their own ignorance, immaturity, intolerance, bias and stupidity.
Bit unnecessary to call him embarrassing because he was wrong about a few eggs been thrown, no?
Perhaps. I'm pissed off with people making false claims online after what we've seen this week and maybe I let that get the better of me.
I don't care about the eggs of course, a very minor thing.
I personally would feel embarrassment if I'd have told another to stick to what they know, and would bet that they didn't know anything other than what they'd read on 4chan whilst being completely wrong myself. I felt their tone was unnecessarily abrasive with that and the MAGA/ tiki torch references.
Speaking of embarrassment, I'm feeling some now in the wake of your post on reflection. There was no need to continue in the same fashion.
Stuff has got me down. Random Twitter users stating things about the Southport attack with lots of confidence based off nothing, I'm seeing it as a part of wider issue. I don't know why people can't check if what they're saying is true before typing it.
If someone makes a claim what's wrong with checking if it's valid? Don't repeat it like they were doing on Twitter, but also don't state something didn't happen if you actually don't know. Two sides of the same coin. Nothing wrong with saying "I hadn't heard that, can you show me?" , or trying to confirm it yourself.
Anyway, I apologise for own abrasiveness @Mainoonited
Boy, 11, arrested on suspicion of police car arson
An 11-year-old boy has been arrested on suspicion of arson after a police car was set alight on a night of unrest on Teesside.
It follows the arrests of 11 other people, as police officers were attacked with missiles, glass bottles and eggs in Hartlepool's Murray Street area on Wednesday.
Cleveland Police said it believed the disorder, which saw one of the force's vehicles set on fire, was linked to protests over the fatal knife attack on children in Southport, Merseyside, on Monday.
Assistant Chief Constable David Felton said "disorder of this kind will not be tolerated" and that the force continued to work to identify those involved.
Cleveland Police confirmed the boy was the youngest person arrested so far in connection with the riots.
An 11-year-old boy has been arrested on suspicion of arson after a police car was set alight on a night of unrest on Teesside.
It follows the arrests of 11 other people, as police officers were attacked with missiles, glass bottles and eggs in Hartlepool's Murray Street area on Wednesday.
Cleveland Police said it believed the disorder, which saw one of the force's vehicles set on fire, was linked to protests over the fatal knife attack on children in Southport, Merseyside, on Monday.
Assistant Chief Constable David Felton said "disorder of this kind will not be tolerated" and that the force continued to work to identify those involved.
Cleveland Police confirmed the boy was the youngest person arrested so far in connection with the riots.
Dw about it.
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You're not the only one frustrated.
Try being Muslim and living in the UK.
For the last 23 years of my life I've seen endless attacks on my community and my identity by the govt and the media.
Today the same people act surprised when the facist cnuts they've raised are turning on the people they've been targeting for more than 2 decades.
I have to wonder if it's safe to take my kids to Blackpool this summer - or if its too white and too poor for us to be able to blend in.
I've asked my wife to not take my kids to not use the local park to us in our predominantly white neighbourhood but to go to the one a bit further away which has lots of Pakistani and Eastern European families there.
My sister likes to go to walks at national trust sites. I worry if it's safe for a visibly Muslim woman to be somewhere rural.
2 weeks ago we were all being blamed for the riots in Leeds. A week ago we were being second guessed for talking about police brutality, this week people have thrown bricks at a mosque and rioted outside it because they want to blame Muslims for this attack.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/05/david-cameron-muslim-extremism
Does this sound much different to what Tommy Robinson says? He was PM at the time? For decades people like me were expected to apologise for the actions of others.
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Yeah it's a pretty bizarre well actshully one bloke threw an egg after everyone fecked off to justify a rant. Your earlier post was well thought out and gave some much-needed context but that one was just straight up nonsense @Chipper
I'm sorry you have to go through that mate. It sickens me that it seems all of Europe is going this way. I always thought my country wouldn't succumb to this bullshit but it's reached here too. We all need to get serious about combatting it. We can't sit back and let this lot influence more people. We need to fight back against the propaganda before it's too late because this lot have money behind them and are motivated. We can't sleep walk into to a horror show.
TBF - no one is safe in Blackpool
Yeah, the amount of times you hear someone in leafy Oxford tells you London is a mad max hellscape is funny.
This is 100% correct. Even 15 years ago, it gets very dodgy a few streets back.
My wife went out in Bradford with her Bengali heritage friend and almost got flipping kidnapped by South Asian men
Her friend actually told her to take her keys out of her bag and put them in between her fingers round here.
Her friend had it all her life round there, she is light skinned with green eyes and frankly stunning (she looks like a famous actress apparently). I've been out with her and sister on piss a number of times and watched groups of Asian try a pull her into cars, grabbing them. Nearly got into a fight with about 4 blokes on my own - luckily a few other chaps got involved because I'd be beaten to a pulp.
But in no way do I class all Asian men the same as these fecking knobs, because a twat is not dictated by colour. You could be a fecking blue smurf and be a wack job.
Anyway, the moment we let fear of terrorism or racism dictate our quality of life - then.... them twats have won.
Also not all white people are poor...Hahaha
@Hal9000 do you know anyone that has had a phone nicked in the last year?
Because I've never heard of anyone getting there phone nicked round here for about 10 years since I moved here.
Obviously all white people aren't poor - it's just every time in my life i've experienced racial abuse, it's been the chavvy sorts. I'm sure there's plenty of posh cnuts too, i've just not had the misfortune to come across them.
Also that experience you described is shocking - did you call the police? I can't imagine going through life having to fear that.
Nah, I think it happened to them so much that it weirdly got the norm.
Now they are older it doesn't happen anymore.
Her other friend lived in London, some of her stories are fecking scary - so much so we begged her to move near us. Sadly she is a Liverpool supporter, comes round wearing a shirt and everything.
The posh ones are much more sophisticated in their racism.
So sorry to read this, mate.
I think this common sense and practicing good safety practices. Post 9/11 things have been getting worse for Muslims and things seem to have been ramped up even more lately, i noticed this particularly after Trump got elected (i think at this point Islamophobia became normalised at Gov level) and after Elon took over X.
There are definitely areas i would avoid, and i know of female friends/family who are visibly Muslim who don't feel safe. Saying that, in my experience most of the places in the UK are fine, but there is always that feeling in the back of your mind something could happen. It's a bit of paranoia but justified imo after seeing all these far right protests/riots happening more often.
I know one person personally who has their phone nicked, and it was my girlfriend's cousin visiting who left his phone on a the table at a pub in London Bridge. Some "drunk" came you us and after he stumbled off it was gone. Quite funny how early we all got distracted to not see it.
Phone thefts by bikes is a big thing in London and the area I used to be in, it was pretty bad. However I also saw police setting up stings and caught quite a few. So there are certainly not just being left to do it.
Imo, it became more normalised in the UK after the Oldham riots. Too many gave Nick Griffin and the BNP airtime without questioning anything he was signing. Ironically, the second they were put on Question Time and people actually questioned them, it fell apart.
If you took any town on the outskirts of Manchester/Liverpool/Leeds etc, they all face very similar issues. Working class people are struggling to develop an identity in a world that doesn't care about them. When the far right turn up and say the bad aspects of your life are the fault of that Asian shopkeeper (who's ultimately facing many of the same issues that you are) you see scenes like we had in Southport the other night.
If you didn't mention the skin colour of the guy who committed those awful crimes on Monday, maybe the Government would actually spend time thinking about early intervention programmes that stop kids developing serious mental health issues. Start looking at why parents are hardly spending any time with their kids because they have to work unsociable hours to keep a roof over their heads. Why knife crime is on the increase etc etc. Instead the focus becomes attached to immigration even the lad was born in the UK and has been schooled in the UK. The same society that failed those poor families probably failed the perpetrator several years back when whatever psychotic pathway he was going down wasn't picked up on. Instead, again, it becomes a race issue. Having family who work in social services across Greater Manchester, its happening with kids from all backgrounds, races and religions. It's hard to report on from a media perspective because people just can't give a four word response to what's happening.
I'd say some of America's current issues probably go back to when Fox News was formed. Wider cultural problems are going back hundreds of years before that. Trump/Musk are just the latest rich guys to try and take advantage of it.
You are probably right it has been in the air since the times of the BNP but in my personal experience it's been ramped up a lot higher since Trump got elected, the bigotry never reached Gov levels (openly that is) before that and social media was pretty pro active in stamping these things out until Elon took over .
Totally agree with everything else regarding funding and neglect of working class communities.
I watched the Nick Griffiths Question Time and remember seeing him literally shaking with nerves. Sunlight is a decent disinfectant
This is a huge thing. They circled around tube and bus stops at night hoping that drunk people will be on their phone and not paying attention to the surroundings. Seen a bunch of people have their phone nicked in this way.
Yeah, i mean the area i live is in predominantly white, but also those people typically vote Lib Dem, so it's not like it's a rough estate. The problem is that it only takes 1 idiot to ruin your kids perspective on life. i don't want my children to fear being out on the street. I know for a fact that at least 1 EDL supporter lives near the park (found his address in that leak of EDL members a few years ago).
I'll give you another example. My daughters friend is active on social media. Kids being idiots leave themselves vulnerable on social media, apparently she's in a whatsapp group of several hundred kids from school. someone told her to burn her hijab and to kill herself. it's kids from her own school, middle class white kids who's parents likely vote lib dem...lol
This rhetoric seems to be seeping everywhere and you just end up being cautious.
Sorry to read that, mate, and as a parent I really understand that worry. We want to shelter our kids as much as possible from the ugliness of the world we're in, but sometimes it's unavoidable.
Hopefully that comment might come down to some thick teenager thinking theyre being hilariously edgy.
I hope so. I remember as a teenager i was completely different around my toxic mates, then i was in class, or at home.
Sounds like @rimaldo's M.O.
Oh god.
Doesn't surprise me about Portland. Such a dull, Grey backwards place. One of the most depressing places in the SW. Legit dislike that place.
They have coordinated protests all over the country, i live in a progressive city and they have protest planned here too.
To add to this, the general reason behind higher rates of crimes(violence, theft or drug) is precarity, in fact if people go back in time they will realize that while the demographics may change the socioeconomic context doesn't. Politicians don't like to talk about this because it exposes their responsibility, in a world where the wealthy get wealthier and we talk about reducing their taxes or giving them more grants whenever elections are around, the poorer part of society remains as poor and as ignored.
An other thing, the last time I looked into it the most common and costly crime are white collar crimes.
It would be quite funny, but I'm a white middle aged man. If I were a younger guy with Asian heritage, it would enrage and worry me in equal measure that the actions of a man with a tan and a beard can provoke nationwide waves of anger and retribution against people that just look like they might possibly be muslim.
Agree. Boscombe as an area is probably the worst but then Boscombe is full of non-Dorset people, Portland on the other hand is full of Portland people.
The issue is that Islamist extremists commit appalling atrocities. Which is perhaps why there is a deep mistrust among some British people of Islam. A phobia implies it is illogical, it is not illogical, it is based on events and particular sects of Islam and their backwards belief which is not helped by a reading of the Qur'an.
And people of particular ethnic minorities are committing disproportionate amounts of crime. Fairly straight forward, I chose my words carefully because they happen to be correct statistically.
I didn't point out what the reasons are, it's a complex issue but it's one worth facing not pretending that it isn't the case for fear of being called racist. That's where Britain is currently, plenty of extremists, plenty of crime as well as mobs of young migrant men hanging around various town centres.
I think 'manny' in this instance is supposed to be Manchester. Which I've never said in my life, despite living here for 40 years.
When was the last time these 'mobs of young migrant men' smashed up a seaside town that was grieving the loss of murdered kids? The EDL yobs chucking bricks were actually the only example of extremists on the streets we've seen this week. And at multiple 'protests' all over the country too!
We've got problems in this country, as do many others, but let's not pretend they are all caused by 'foreigners' or Muslims.
And a reading of the Bible (which I'm sure you've read as thoroughly as the Quran) doesn't really suggest our own country's traditional religion is any better.
You're almost there with your first line though. There is a problem with Islamic extremism. It's the same problem with Christian extremism, right-wing extremism, Basque sectarian extremism etc. It's the extremism bit. All extremist atrocities are caused by that bit, not the basic ideology it stems from.
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What EDL? Its barely a functioning organisation, why are we giving them so much credit? This idea of organised right wing is absolute nonsense, it's just a mish mash of random indigenous people, some of which undoubtedly do hold right wing and violent views, some of which don't yet anytime certain views are held it is covered as right wing. Much of the time when protesters across the country are getting branded right wing it's just a cheap tactic to undermine genuinely held views, if they're right wing then the authorities don't have to address genuine concerns around immigration. The same as this stupid idea of branding people Islamophobic or racist to avoid a point of contention.
I didn't say the problems were all caused by foreigners. A ridiculous straw man, another common tactic to avoid confronting the point. Which once again, is that disproportionate crime is getting commited by certain communities, radical islam is a major threat, and fundamentally that we have completely botched controlling our borders and have let plenty of riff raff in over recent years, some of which are a net negative to the communities they are in.
Oh wow, you just wrote it out like that.
Yikes.
Can I ask why you're choosing this thread in particular to complain about Islam? None of the crimes committed this week have anything to do with it.
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