We could do with a few more defenders and defensive midfielders on today.
England - Euro 2021 Discussion | FA chairman: Southgate to be offered new contract until Euro 2024
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Prediction for today: we will win, play better and not miss Mount.
Prediction for today: If we don't win, Mount and Chilwell will be mentioned every 30 seconds as the reason why.
Yep! I like Squires' cartoon today, the Ramsdale bit.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...2/david-squires-on-euro-2020-plans-going-awry
Pickford
Trippier - Stones - Maguire - Shaw
Rice - Bellingham
Sancho - Grealish - Rashford
Kane
Trippier - Stones - Maguire - Shaw
Rice - Bellingham
Sancho - Grealish - Rashford
Kane
Think the front 6 needs freshening up while the defence just needs Maguire to come in and help steady the ship. Sancho and Grealish have to start because of their ability to carry the ball while Bellingham and Rashford’s (fitness depending) dynamism will add a different look to the attack.
I’d persist with Rice in midfield despite Phillips outperforming him because I think Rice’s attributes will be more applicable in the latter stages of the tournament and he needs minutes to find the right type of form. Same argument applies for Kane.
If Southgate doesn’t start Grealish he should be placed in immediate quarantine for the health of the team.
There's actual talk of Saka starting in place of Foden and not Sancho 
Can't make this up.
Can't make this up.First off no guarantees we win the group if we dont play better Czechs can cause us problems....but I think we win the goup France beat Portugal and Germany beat Hungary....its the bloody Germans again!!! Euro 96 was my birthday semi, 25 years for revenge
One thing, the Billy Gilmour covid story. Dont want the two English guys to have to self isolate....but I hope they are left out tomorrow. I really rate Mount and think he has done well generally for England. BUT, I was thinking today, really he is a much better version of Lingard, a lot of what he does positively is based upon excellent movement into spaces. The way we are playing with our two holdign midfielders and centre backs, when we arent pressing and the play is slow...it makes him far less effective as we are so deep and he is on his own unless he joins the winger out left.Seen both game so far he has started well and as the teams tempo an dpressing has dropped off, so has he. I thought he actually looked very tired against Scotland actually.
But SOuthgate isnt going to drop him or do many changes....if Mount has to be left out for precautions....Southgate is forced to make changes. The way we have played both matches. I can imagine Grealish being more effective as he can drive tha bll out from the middle of the park running with it to move us forward. Or if Foden is moved there he can spin off the midfielders and also link the play and maybe keep a better flow.
Not only that, Foden or Grealish there also forces us to use a different wide player, Rashford or maybe even Sancho gets a chance
We hav eseen in tournaments before, forced changes making stars of players, just look at Robsons injury and PLatt stepping up in Italia 90. Im fearful Southgsgte isnt going to pick the right playres or utilise the bench off of his own back with too much loyatly to 2 or 4 players, Mount missing tomorrow enforces a different side in 2 to 3 positions, positively unless he does something ultra defensive
Agree that Mount is neutered a bit when the game slows down and the team sits back, but I reckon the same is true of Foden! He’s been much more ineffective in these games and is more used to playing aggressive possession football with City. Grealish is worth a try but he could just make things more disjointed. Certainly didn’t seem to find it easy in the last game!
No doubt Southgate will go with the more conservative midfield choice anyway. It may well be logical given England’s relative weaknesses and the competition format but it’s a shame for the fans.
There's actual talk of Saka starting in place of Foden and not Sancho
Saka is a decent option.
Who is reporting this? The state of Southgate if that's true.There's actual talk of Saka starting in place of Foden and not Sancho
He is, but Sancho is a top class option.
Not over Sancho he's not.
Yep, this is the team we should be going for, some good balance in there and England have to get Kane firing or there is no chance. Grealish and Rashford can interchange on that left and be a real nuisance.
Do it Southgate.
Can you imagine if we see Rice, Henderson and Phillips in the midfield tonight?
No leak of the team? Surprised by that
Considering we only need a point to qualify for the next round and Soutgate's proven negativity, there is every chance we see that midfield tonight.
Southgate won't take any chances. Did he ever?
Pickford Walker Stones Maguire Shaw Rice Phillips Saka Grealish Sterling Kane
That's what I've seen in reports.
Compared to literally every single one of the other attacking players, no he isn't.
If Sterling starts again...
This manager is going to kill our best chance of winning a major tournament for a very long time
This manager is going to kill our best chance of winning a major tournament for a very long time
Could work I guess if Grealish plays the creative role in the middle. I do feel like Sancho should be getting a look in here though as more of a direct goal threat than Saka. Prefer either of the other RBs to Walker, too, but not much between them I suppose.
If Sterling starts again...
This manager is going to kill our best chance of winning a major tournament for a very long time
Why is Sterling starting laughable? I don't get it.
Clearly a very good player and a threat from the left.
Because he's been dreadful in the first two games. Especially Scotland where any promising attack broke down when it went through him.
Will be cheering on the Czechs tonight, although reports here that they will also be resting few key players. I am not anticpating a high scoring game.
Yeah good post, that should be the team he's going with indeed. Fingers crossed (but looking like it's once again not Sancho starting).
We will win.
Sterling, with Phillips and Rice as a pair again. (If that lineup is correct).
There's been reports Henderson is starting. Saka over Rashford and Sancho and Rice and Phillips again? God help us.
There's actual talk of Saka starting in place of Foden and not Sancho
He can't, can he? Ffs
Because he's been poor and had a very poor season.
Just read the news about Mount and Chilwell. I am confused if there is a protocol. And Petr Cech seems to be asking the right question. How is Scotland playing? None of their players came in contact, but Mount and Chilewell did?
Sounds like a back three with Saka and Shaw as wing backs so a change of formation from previous games
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He does a ton of work to put himself in great positions to either score or set up goals but his end product at these tournaments is just awful. He's a player I would definitely keep bringing him because we know what his floor is, but it's time to try other options and see if they can improve the team more, be more clinical and actually put away chances.
Just because he scored a goal he is a threat? He may be a good player but he has had an awful season.
The goal overshadowed his awful performance in both games. I cannot recall the last time Sterling played well against very good opponents.
Oh have a day off, he played well against Croatia and noone did against Scotland. His form this season wasn't that bad either, I saw him in a couple of games towards the end and he was a constant threat.
At this point Southgate is doing a very good impression of a man who doesn't have the slightest clue what he is doing
'Awful' is way too strong, you can surely see that?
Anyway, we have plenty of good options up front and he is one of them. Not sure I would play him but it is hardly ridiculous to do so.
You'd think tonight would be a good situation for Southgate to loosen up the team, both in personal and set-up.
Give a few fridge players the chance to make a mark while giving certain positions more freedom, basically the fullbacks.
I expect to see James and Shaw start, though.
Neither did anything wrong in the last match. They were simply doing what was asked of them, which is/was the fundamental issue.
Give a few fridge players the chance to make a mark while giving certain positions more freedom, basically the fullbacks.
I expect to see James and Shaw start, though.
Neither did anything wrong in the last match. They were simply doing what was asked of them, which is/was the fundamental issue.
That would at least justify Saka over Sancho I suppose. Not sure it is the right call but I could see him doing that to get more width supporting Kane.
Not happy with the supposed leaked team news. I'm happy to see changes because we haven't started well but id like to see Bellingham and Sancho I don't know where the hell Saka gets a start from.
Also looks like he's ditched his 4 at the back formation in a panic, he doesn't know his best 11 and doesn't even know what tactic to go with it's turning into a shambles this tournament.
Also looks like he's ditched his 4 at the back formation in a panic, he doesn't know his best 11 and doesn't even know what tactic to go with it's turning into a shambles this tournament.