You think Emre Can or anyone else Liverpool will let go is going to turn into a new busby?Biggest mistake of our club’s history was appointing Busby.
You think Emre Can or anyone else Liverpool will let go is going to turn into a new busby?Biggest mistake of our club’s history was appointing Busby.
I think some posters seriously confused him with Khedira. Would also explain everyone being shocked he‘s not 35.Btw - where does this "injury-prone" stuff come from ?
The guy on average played 29 League matches each season from 2012/13->18/19 - and if we assume he has missed a few matches through suspension and some where he was benched…..he might have missed what…5-6 games a season through injuries ?
You think Emre Can or anyone else Liverpool will let go is going to turn into a new busby?
Arsenal are the favourites to complete a deal for Juventus midfielder Adrien Rabiot in the January transfer window. Irritating. He's a good player.
His biggest issues are being good at football. Which he isn’t.Seriously why are we constantly linked with this fellow? Were a team that needs technical class in midfield - close control, vision, excellent passing and ability to dictate. I thought Can was more about physicality and running power? He also didn't make it big at either Liverpool or Juventus.
I hope Ole doesn't stock pile work horses suited to his counter attacking fetish.
Can hasn’t got the legs, and is slow, you’re really overrating him.
I’m not. I’m just aware that our current options are atrocious when they aren’t given the task of ceding possession and ‘getting stuck in’.
Have you actually seen our last few games? Matic has been decent and still has something to offer as a squad player
Is this your first clue?
For what its worth, he was the one leaving us. He turned down our contract offer to join Juventus. Was a step up at the time.
In Fabinho we've signed a significant upgrade, but I'd still say that Can is good enough that he would have been part of the midfield rotation here on fairly equal footing with the others if he had stayed.
So like a midfielder O'Shea? Not a bad squad player if you asked me.What a strange comment from an actual Liverpool fan. As someone who's seen him play plenty for Germany, as well as prior to LFC and then when he was at LFC, he is nowhere near the level of Wijnaldum and Henderson either or a fit Keita. I'd take Milner ahead of him too as his fitness levels and stamina are so much better. He would be a 5th/6th choice central midfielder at Liverpool if he was there now.
Can is a hugely inconsistant player, he always has been, he goes from having games where he looks like a world beater, to games when he lumbers around the pitch failing to make an impact in any positive way.
His problem has always been that he's a jack of all trades and master of none of them. So he is a ideal squad player in that sense, but not a reliable starter.
You're right, he isn't as good as those other Pool MF's you mentioned but Klopp always had a soft spot for him so as the original poster said, he would play equally and probably most of the important games too. He always did. Thing is, now he's left, Hendo gets more game time and has flourished. Agree with your point about being a jack of all trades, he's always flattered to deceive for meWhat a strange comment from an actual Liverpool fan. As someone who's seen him play plenty for Germany, as well as prior to LFC and then when he was at LFC, he is nowhere near the level of Wijnaldum and Henderson either or a fit Keita. I'd take Milner ahead of him too as his fitness levels and stamina are so much better. He would be a 5th/6th choice central midfielder at Liverpool if he was there now.
Can is a hugely inconsistant player, he always has been, he goes from having games where he looks like a world beater, to games when he lumbers around the pitch failing to make an impact in any positive way.
His problem has always been that he's a jack of all trades and master of none of them. So he is a ideal squad player in that sense, but not a reliable starter.
No... He wasn't. He slows everything down and never looks for the guests pass. He is a terrible player.Matic was good against Burnley, but showed exactly why he's not playing much against Arsenal.
I am baffled by the state our Midfield is in, how did this even happen. If we aspire to be winners again we should have quality backup for such instances
If Can is actually interested in coming to United and ready to put shift in, I am all for it.
As long as we don't see Lingard, Matic start.
We need players with some good control and quick incisive passing.
Hendo and Gini are both a fair bit better now than he was when he left, but they are also better now than they were then. I reckon he'd be ahead of Milner in the rotation.What a strange comment from an actual Liverpool fan. As someone who's seen him play plenty for Germany, as well as prior to LFC and then when he was at LFC, he is nowhere near the level of Wijnaldum and Henderson either or a fit Keita. I'd take Milner ahead of him too as his fitness levels and stamina are so much better. He would be a 5th/6th choice central midfielder at Liverpool if he was there now.
Can is a hugely inconsistant player, he always has been, he goes from having games where he looks like a world beater, to games when he lumbers around the pitch failing to make an impact in any positive way.
His problem has always been that he's a jack of all trades and master of none of them. So he is a ideal squad player in that sense, but not a reliable starter.
Agree. At this point it's not about finding our next great mid, we can do that in the summer, it's about having actual midfielders to put on the pitch.We only have Fred and Matic fit.
I’d be all for it assuming we don’t get ripped off.
Seen loads of Can..and not a fan. Isn't the answer to our shortcomings. Appears to already be a journeyman in his mid-20s because he can't nail a first team place anywhere.There is a serious level of delusion with regards to McTominay and Fred. Emre Can not our best midfielder? He walks in ahead of everybody apart from Pogba. As did/would Herrera, who has recently been a victim of the Caf’s rush to get excited over one or two half decent games.
It can’t be underestimated just how terrible our midfield options are at present. We’re in no position to snob away at players who have been playing regular football for Liverpool and Juventus for the best part of five seasons.
Don't think he would come here for fear of upsetting Liverpool fans.If it's Can or nobody then I'd take him on loan - last resort though
Arsenal are the favourites to complete a deal for Juventus midfielder Adrien Rabiot in the January transfer window. Irritating. He's a good player.
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Seen rumours Juve would use him as part exchange plus cash for Pogba, not really the best sources though so dunno how much truth is in it.
"Yes, I will stay with Juventus for sure. There is no problem," Rabiot told reporters after the game against Cagliari.
"I feel the confidence of the club and of coach Sarri. 2019 was not easy for me, I came to Juve after a long time without playing.”
"I'm looking to adapt to a new league, a new environment and a new coach. I hope 2020 will be better for me and be able to help Juventus by exploiting my full potential."
Didn't he just move there? Why would he leave after half a season?
He’s one of those players. Not shite but not good enough to have any team make sure to keep him. Another Lingard.Seen loads of Can..and not a fan. Isn't the answer to our shortcomings. Appears to already be a journeyman in his mid-20s because he can't nail a first team place anywhere.
Actually better than Lingard but that is not saying anythingHe’s one of those players. Not shite but not good enough to have any team make sure to keep him. Another Lingard.
Biggest mistake of our club’s history was appointing Busby.
Biggest mistake in this clubs history is the fans, and the clubs, desire to cling onto nostalgia, Busby and Ferguson were great, we just can't or won't move on for some reason, every manager has to be given time in the hopes they miraculously turn into a Fergie, we have to keep playing god awful academy players like Lingard only because they came from the academy, we're not allowed to sack wildly under-performing managers because its "beneath us" I could go on
I realise we're all a bit depressed at the moment but you're wrong here. The poster you quoted accepted that Matic was poor against Arsenal but you have to accept that he was good against Burnley. In the barren wasteland that is our midfield at the moment, Matic is still a good option. He may not be quick but he knows his job, doesn't panic, can look after possession and can find an occasional forward pass. We have nobody else at the moment that will give Fred and whoever else we stick in there as solid a base. He'll still look ponderous at times but he was excellent at Burnley and had an immediate impact last night. He's not the future but we're in no position to bin him just yet.No... He wasn't. He slows everything down and never looks for the guests pass. He is a terrible player.
No can't agree, he just slows everything down and never ever passes the ball into the path of the runners.I realise we're all a bit depressed at the moment but you're wrong here. The poster you quoted accepted that Matic was poor against Arsenal but you have to accept that he was good against Burnley. In the barren wasteland that is our midfield at the moment, Matic is still a good option. He may not be quick but he knows his job, doesn't panic, can look after possession and can find an occasional forward pass. We have nobody else at the moment that will give Fred and whoever else we stick in there as solid a base. He'll still look ponderous at times but he was excellent at Burnley and had an immediate impact last night. He's not the future but we're in no position to bin him just yet.