Well, it helps massively to become a billionaire if you are coming from a massively wealthy family.
Same as I don’t think Trump is a very intelligent person.
Guys, get back on topic please, I don't want to derail the thread. If you want to insult me, do it like any normal human being and use PMs.
I actually get mostly apologies via PM, not insults.
"Oh, really sorry, I was only messing with you, please be my friend "
Another addition to the 'that never happened to Colin' file.
You are throwing genius too much here IMO. And Bill Gates was at Harvard, not Stanford. To be fair, Gates was a prodigy programmer from all accounts, and he had a close to perfect examination score. Musk from what I heard was a great cider, but not Gates/Wozniacki/Allen level.I dont like Elon and his obvious gimmicks but the guy is a genius. I think he wrote a full interactive in assembly language when he was 14.
Also, Trump is quite smart. He knows what he does and where it will take him.
Money helps but its not money alone that can get you. Bill Gates for instance had a well connected mother but he was also a genius at stanford ahead of his professors.
You are throwing genius too much here IMO. And Bill Gates was at Harvard, not Stanford. To be fair, Gates was a prodigy programmer from all accounts, and he had a close to perfect examination score. Musk from what I heard was a great cider, but not Gates/Wozniacki/Allen level.
I agree with most of your post, to be fair. It is impressive that Musk has enough technical skills to be able to follow discussions and give ideas in very different fields.Wrong about Stanford then but he was a gifted student especially at Algorithms.
By cider I think you mean coder? Anyway Musk sold a video game for 500 when he was 10 or 12 back in the 80s. That's just the tip of it though. The thing about Musk that's special is how he has such fundamental knowledge of different fields from Comp Sci, to physics to Engineering whereas your average CEO (usually also pretty smart guys) excel at one.
Idk about wozniack/gates level etc but I do consider his entrepreneurial and technical acumen to probably be in the 99.99 percentile of excellence. It depends on what you consider genius. I think Scholes is a footballing genius but he's obviously not Einstein.
Anyway the whole response was for "easy to have rich parents". He's obviously a smart, annoying dude.
I agree with most of your post, to be fair. It is impressive that Musk has enough technical skills to be able to follow discussions and give ideas in very different fields.
At the same time, I don't think that he was stellar in either of them (as I mentioned some other coders turned entrepreneurs who at their time might have been considered some of the best coders in the whole world). Additionally, I have seen him either being wrong or totally underestimating things when he talks about AI (despite that he founded OpenAI, and cause his name alone attracted some of the best AI scientists, though most left within a couple of years).
About Gates being gifted at algorithms, I don't even know what that would mean. People are not gifted at algorithms. Like in all other math-related things, you need to study them (though sure, intelligent people digest them easier). As far as I know, he never developed an algorithm, he is not and has never been a researcher. However, he was an exceptionally good coder, which allowed him to start Microsoft with his partner (who was at least as a good coder as him). His main strength was the entrepreneurship and the vision he had though (though personally I think that Microsoft always sucked).
I wasn’t aware of that paper, but seems nice. In any case, many undergrad (or during the masters) students make publications, some very nice publications. It doesn’t make them exceptionally gifted though.What "gifted at algorithms" means is having an innate ability to understand, derive and tackle complex algortihms.
There are intelligent students who will pick up The egg drop problem in a few seconds, then theres Bill Gates who devised and algorithm for for the unsolved pancake sorting problem which was the fastest for 30 years and still kinda is.
He did that as an undergrad who was about to drop out.
Von Neumann is the greatest of them all. From all accounts he might be the most intelligent person ever, and in a head to head would have made the likes of Einstein look like an ordinary person. To be fair, his stories are so ridiculous that some are hard to believe.”Genius” is Newton, Einstein, Hubble, Dirac, Clerk Maxwell... calling Elon fecking Musk a genius is absolutely ridiculous.
He’s a good coder with an excellent entrepreneurial mind.
I read about Von Neumann a while ago. By all accounts he was just absolutely ridicilously intelligent. Indeed, hard to believe. I just can't comprehend how someone's brain can have so much more computing power than the rest.Von Neumann is the greatest of them all. From all accounts he might be the most intelligent person ever, and in a head to head would have made the likes of Einstein look like an ordinary person. To be fair, his stories are so ridiculous that some are hard to believe.
Yep. The sheer intellect of him seems to have been much higher than that of anyone else (maybe Ramanujan comes close), to the point of just not being human. Unfortunately (or fortunately) he didn’t decide to dedicate most of his career to a single topic (like Einstein with relativity), but instead make serious contributions to many fields (mathematics and physics in particular), but also invented game theory, and to a lesser degree computer science and artificial intelligence (or maybe he was an AI sent from the future).I read about Von Neumann a while ago. By all accounts he was just absolutely ridicilously intelligent. Indeed, hard to believe. I just can't comprehend how someone's brain can have so much more computing power than the rest.
Red pill language has become so prevalent and independent of its origin online that I didn't link her being director of the Matrix to the tweet at all, I was wondering why it was being liked and rt'd so much.
What’s the story behind the bacon adventures aspect of the thread title?