I calculated half his workforce getting one month's pay/per year served at 10k per month since Twitter's inception (160k each). Not that he would, but it's feck all in the scheme of things.
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I calculated half his workforce getting one month's pay/per year served at 10k per month since Twitter's inception (160k each). Not that he would, but it's feck all in the scheme of things.
Twitter is a "software and servers" company?
Musk has been there for like a week, so if he says so it must be a perfect summary.
I’m gonna need you guys to get all the way off his back on this one.
Joke's on him, every hour has the exact same length.
So to sum up:
A) Overpay
B) Blow up the business model
C) Anthagonize the user base
D) Scare the advertisers away
E) Fire the key workers
F) Threat the rest of the staff
G) Profit?
Okay let me get off of that thing.
Working long hours at high intensity is a given at a company like that, especially in a time of major transformation. Musk doesn’t half know how to upset his staff though, the way he goes about things.
Is that legal?
Dunno about the USA but I know in the UK and suspect in the rest of the eu at least that there are legal processes about redundancy... at risk meetings etc?
He's just basically giving away 3 months pay with an open invitation to take legal action on top
It infringes pretty much all UE employement regulations.
Might fly in the US, not here.
I've never been a twatter. Opens up something else. Fecking cringe shite anyway.
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after a month of incompetence and humiliation, he's still one of the most liked "political" people in the US (and, I'm sure, more worldwide). Just like you admired SBF for earning money to give money, many (the vast majority) of people admire the rich - for being smart, cool, aspirational, winners, etc.
The exception is Bezos because he looks, behaves, and talks like an alien rather than a 2010 internet teenager. But now that he's "giving his fortune away", he'll be on Gates-type numbers soon.
Basically saying, he does not have a clue
To be clear, I definitely didn’t admire SBF because he earned lots of money.
The whole admiring rich people for being rich thing seems like a very American trait. Which is not shared by most Irish people, including me.
wow this is genuinely mental
if I worked at Twitter I'd take the three months severance, because working for this cnut is going to be stressful
It's definitely an Indian middle-class thing to idolise western billionaires. Then, the first American I ever met talked about how he took a boat trip around Bill Gates' house to wave at him or gawp or something...so I assumed it was universal.
"you either agree to work yourself into the ground for a sinking ship or you can leave and get a 3 month paid holiday"
Seriously who is actually hanging around when given that offer?
Seriously who is actually hanging around when given that offer?
There’s a few different takes on it.
In Britain they seem to respect people who have been wealthy for generations more than self made billionaires. Old money vs new money.
In Ireland we generally don’t like the rich no matter how they acquire their wealth. Which probably goes back to a time when the only rich people in Ireland were British colonisers. So it’s interesting that this attitude isn’t present in India. Although I guess there was already a lot of wealth in India before the Brits arrived? This wasn’t the case in Ireland.
Not sure about the rest of Europe but suspect they’re a bit of a mix of Ireland and English attitudes?
I could be talking out my arse though! I’m dealing in stereotypes a bit here.
Come back to me when those legal problems translate in actual damage to Musk. I've heard a million times how Trump created legal problems and they still haven't thrown his ass in prison.
Exactly, what the feck is Garland and co waiting on?
Agreed. If you stay your life will be shit. But if you take the money you have 3 months to find another job, if you need one.
That's some hardcore content there. So that's Twitter 2.0?
"John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." ― Ronald Wright
"Hardcore". FFS
He manages the company like a teenaged boy would do it.
sounds like a 15 year old who just discovered Metallica
The photobomb thing is Musk's own desription, while a witness says they talked about all sorts of stuff including how Musk thinks we live in a simulation. Epstein also worked for Tesla for a bit, and Musk's brother dated one of Epstein's girlfriends, so it wouldn't be very surprising if they knew each other through him.
He's got his head banged a lot seemingly
sounds like a 15 year old who just discovered Metallica
Speaking as an Asian guy, I think there's a bit a colonized mindset which I think quite common in Asia. There are traces of it in every aspect of life, like fairer skin is considered more beautiful/handsome. In short, if it comes from white people it's good.
i had forgotten about that gemThe only person to ever anthagonize anyone is John Ashcroft, who wrote his own anthem, which he forced the employees of Attorney General's office to sing every workday morning.
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Yup. It's all talk, nothing real is happening to either.
Employees on H1B visa until they find another offer.
These lawyers are just trying to be twitter celebrities with these threads. US corps feck around workers all the time and at best get a slap on the wrist from regulators or courts. Musk infact has a history of doing so with Tesla and has not faced any serious consequences.
Yeah its all bs talk. Clout chasers with the “smoking gun”.
The American fetishization of "work ethic" is really disturbing. You'd think everyone would agree that decent working conditions is a good thing, since it affects nearly everyone, but there are millions of people who take the opposing position.
It is and in short bursts it can work brilliantly - especially if everyone knows what they're doing. The industry has always celebrated its overnight coding marathons and pizza fueled hackathons.
The fact that the output of the session is often a pile of crap that you spend the next week (or worse!) fixing can even be worth it, because of the fresh ideas, and the insights that sometimes come tumbling out of it.
Where it's normalised as a standard - work expands to fill the hours. I've spent time in companies that measure productivity by lines of code or by hours on site - they're the stuff of nightmare and you can see the energy and talent drain away.
Individuals can keep it up for weeks, or months or even a few years - depending on their family circumstances, their health and their personality. To do it, you need a continuous feed of fresh talent (aka cannon fodder) but you also need the people who can act as mentors, produce actual specifications for the work, make sure it's documented/tested and integrated successfully.
There's a limit to what (an already financially comfortable - because they will be) experienced engineer will put up with. With any luck they'll all find nice new jobs (or open a sailing school as one of my old colleagues did!)
Maybe a new streamlined (aka less functional but cheaper to run) twitter will emerge - if Musk stays out of the design process. If Musk keeps interfering though, he's likely to get exactly what he's asking for - poorly formulated new features, "mysterious" outages and performance issues to go with the moderation and identity protection issues he's already suggested as policy.
Long hours at high intensity is unsustainable and inefficient though. But if all he cares about is more lines of shitty code then he'll be happy.
Good developers know they can get work they like. He'll be stuck with the ones who feel they can't do better than "twitter 2.0".