Drifter
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He's a fool
He's a fool
WFH, where possible, is superior to commuting to an office in every possible wayWouldn't WFH have a lower overhead than having people on-site? The cost to heat/cool, utilities, janitorial staff, culinary staff, etc?
Can’t have it, too libby.Wouldn't WFH have a lower overhead than having people on-site? The cost to heat/cool, utilities, janitorial staff, culinary staff, etc?
Absolutely agree, I was just commenting on Musk thinking that forcing people back into the office will somehow improve revenue.WFH, where possible, is superior to commuting to an office in every possible way
How were they going to stop him?
Unfortunately this mindset is still widely present in a lot of companies. Employees can't be trusted and are busy watching TV at home, so need to make sure they come to the office if you want to guarantee productivity. Absolute and outdated nonsense.Absolutely agree, I was just commenting on Musk thinking that forcing people back into the office will somehow improve revenue.
Unfortunately this mindset is still widely present in a lot of companies. Employees can't be trusted and are busy watching TV at home, so need to make sure they come to the office if you want to guarantee productivity. Absolute and outdated nonsense.
Surely the board could've advised shareholders of the risks and to vote against it (whether they listened or not) and then not taken Elon to court to enforce it. Given Elon tried to join the board first before submitting the bid they must've had conversations about what Elon wanted to do internally. The board were happy to take the money. It would've still happened but my comment was more a reaction to why complain and say this about Elon now publicly (everything was being leaked) rather than earlier in the process.
Because people care about their jobs?
In any case, surely it's better that it's out now than never. What he's doing now is absolutely evil, making people implement HIS terrible ideas but have them legally liable for them when they fall foul of laws? Not to mention the damage this is doing and will continue to do much more than just twitter.
Maybe but this person is in the legal privacy team and leaving now anyway or surely knew as there were reports of a mass layoff especially as one of the main issues was around privacy and moderation.
The latter is perhaps what they didn't expect so quickly. If there was better initial engagement or more visibility of what the plans were in public I would like to think it could've been stopped.
I think that is what it was worth when he bought it and that would've still been overvalued heading into a recession.
The dumbest move was he sold shares of a growing profitable company for an unprofitable one.
Well, we were talking about Twitter engineers.
And of course, the hiring freezes affect them. You cannot leave your job to join FAANG et al if they are not hiring in the first place.
I think that Elon was very likely with the timing here, but the hiring freeze will likely (hopefully) end in a few months or a year, and then I expect a mass exodus of Twitter’s best engineers, and them getting replaced with worse engineers considering that Elon companies aren’t particularly know for paying top dollar, and by all accounts he is a very annoying and demanding boss.
In regards to war in Ukraine he was sure he knew what needed to be done because he spend the night thinking about it. 14 days is quite a massive progress in comparison.Oh well. No one can say he hasn't poured his heart and soul into the company and tried everything humanly possible over these past....14 days.
Actually, ACTUALLY, he goes to bed quite late, so...In regards to war in Ukraine he was sure he knew what needed to be done because he spend the night thinking about it. 14 days is quite a massive progress in comparison.
He uses the same tactic in SpaceX. A genius of motivation.
Isn’t it a way of forcing to resign without paying retrenchmentAbsolutely agree, I was just commenting on Musk thinking that forcing people back into the office will somehow improve revenue.
I guess it is really hard to know how long it will take. Not even bothering to really predict.Hiring freeze at big tech is not going to end in few months. By current outlook, it will last throughout 2023. It will not be completely dry, some hiring will stake place but it won't be easy to find a position at FAANG anymore
Absolute car crash
Eli Lilly?Who'll be the first person to sue Twitter over something like this, I wonder.
I guess it is really hard to know how long it will take. Not even bothering to really predict.
I know that some hiring is continuing, I am actually interviewing with Meta next week, although at this stage I would be afraid to accept their offer even in the unlikely event that I will get one. Just too risky right now, especially with some startups offering FAANG-like salaries.
Total compensation. It probably is not exactly as much as FAANG but with stocks it seems that 130-150K seems doable in Munich. This is close to FAANG salaries for L4 (although in these companies it would be higher position than that). Of course, the stocks might turn out to be nothing in the end, but the base is still in six digits. Chat with different ones starting from sport/fitness monitoring, defense, video generation etc.Not to derail this thread but when you say that are you speaking strictly interms of base salary or are you talking about total compensation. And if you are talking about total compensation then what startups are these? I am genuinely curious.
Sounds good, thanks for sharing. And I am assuming a lot of these companies are not public so the stocks are really stock options as opposed to RSUs, right?Total compensation. It probably is not exactly as much as FAANG but with stocks it seems that 130-150K seems doable in Munich. This is close to FAANG salaries for L4 (although in these companies it would be higher position than that). Of course, the stocks might turn out to be nothing in the end, but the base is still in six digits. Chat with different ones starting from sport/fitness monitoring, defense, video generation etc.
Then there is a Chinese company who also seems to pay quite well and offer decent salary. I chat with them and they mentioned a minimum of 115k in Munich, and 160k pounds in London. The position there would be either senior or principal. In all cases talking for AI roles.