So looks like we might be getting him, whats the cafes verdict on him?
If you are buying him from Porto, prepare to get mugged.
He's physically a beast, incredibly fast and powerful. And good on the ball.
At 21 years old he grabbed the CB place after Maicon's injury and will probably not lose it again. He has also covered for LB a few games and did very well there.
I say probably, because he still a bit naive and rash. I fear he's trying to go down the David Luiz route, with too many risky passes (that sometimes come out good) and adventuring too much with the ball. He has good technique for a CB, but he needs to gain the peace of mind to use it properly. At 21 I think he has plenty of time to gain that, but in these things there are never certainties.
I think this leap owes nothing to Ronaldo's in terms of height (first goal). He has scored a few important goals for us already.
That said, Abola is an agenda driven newspaper in service of the Lisbon clubs, a bit like Marca in Spain, and they frequently link our players based on absolutely nothing with the only goal of unsettling our team (not that they succeed at that, mind).
Not really. He hasn't disappointed since, is a more experienced player now and has definitely earned the first team spot for good. He's arguably one of the players we're counting on making very big money on relatively soon.This is from early 2013. Has you opinion changed since then, Arruda?
Rio is quickly running out of days and probably will retire in the summer and we know Vidic won't be around for ever. This guy is young so I'm sure a lot would welcome his signing.Several papers picking this one up. With our defensive struggles so far, would people now be more open to signing a top centre half?
Rio is quickly running out of days and probably will retire in the summer and we know Vidic won't be around for ever. This guy is young so I'm sure a lot would welcome his signing.
Yes. Or "foreign."
£25m + Anderson or £24m straight cash.
For someone so young and (apparently) talented, that's probably a reasonable price, in today's market.I reckon it would take £25-30m. A lot for a centre back, but Porto tend to get top dollar for their best players.
you just became "that guy" LCB. thanks for spoiling our muppetryI don't mean to be 'that guy' but shouldn't we be signing a left back, a creative midfielder and possibly a winger too before looking at centre backs?
Yes, we do have plenty of options at centre-half currently. However, if we really want to go back to challenging on every front, we need the very highest quality of player and almost an embarrassment of riches like many of the other European giants have. If you discount Vidic and Ferdinand, who surely won't be here longer than another season at most, a centre-back will be needed sooner rather than later to join Jones (not exclusively used at CB), Smalling (same again) and Evans.
I don't mean to be 'that guy' but shouldn't we be signing a left back, a creative midfielder and possibly a winger too before looking at centre backs?
CB doesn't strike me as an urgent area for improvement, the others do like a sore thumb.
I don't mean to be 'that guy' but shouldn't we be signing a left back, a creative midfielder and possibly a winger too before looking at centre backs?
CB doesn't strike me as an urgent area for improvement, the others do like a sore thumb.
If a player is special or talented enough, it doesn't matter where needs improvement, United always had in the past what appeared to be a secondary 'transfer kitty' for players like Rooney and Rio.
Er that was more than 10 years ago. In the meantime a lot of special players went to other clubs because we refused to pay the money, citing value and other BS.
I'd say if we're to be signing another centre back (Not a pressing concern) then we need someone at their peak now. Rio is off, Vidic declining/off too and Smalling and Jones not yet at their peaks.
I'd say if we're to be signing another centre back (Not a pressing concern) then we need someone at their peak now. Rio is off, Vidic declining/off too and Smalling and Jones not yet at their peaks.
And how do Smalling and Jones get to their peaks, exactly? Oh, I know, buy another shiny defender to stand in their way, curtail their progress and see them spend the most important years of their careers frittering away at right back and central midfield.
I couldn't give a feck about this guy. We'd probably buy him and shove him at right back, too, then get on his back when he amazingly doesn't turn out to be the defender we thought he could be. Ring any bells?
We only need a centre half if Vidic leaves. If he stays, we've got Evans, Smalling, Jones and Vidic with a very promising Michael Keane if in emergency. If we spend more money on a position that is stacked with quality just waiting for consistent game time before giving them the chance to see it bare fruit then I'll be outraged. We seem to buy younger players, or promote academy graduates and then drop/rotate them in favour of dreaded experience and then bleat on at them when they don't fulfil potential. Somebody mentioned Nani and Anderson above. Well, they never stood a chance under a sentimental Sir Alex that would opt for so called experience when all logic dictated doing otherwise. It cost us a league title.
I'm going off on a tangent, but the thought of allowing defensive, English talents like Smalling and Jones to fail in reaching their potential is criminal. I don't want anybody interrupting it unless Vidic leaves in 6 months, in which we should be experienced cover to replace him.
Jesus, calm down. I said myself it wasn't a priority and if you read my post properly I said i'd rather us sign a player at his peak as opposed to a young defender like Mangala. Smalling and Jones would find it a lot harder in the long run if we were to sign Mangala as opposed to an older, more experienced player.
Jesus, calm down. I said myself it wasn't a priority and if you read my post properly I said i'd rather us sign a player at his peak as opposed to a young defender like Mangala. Smalling and Jones would find it a lot harder in the long run if we were to sign Mangala as opposed to an older, more experienced player.
Maybe Moyes doesn't have faith in Jones and Smalling being our main centre back pairing for the years to come, and would rather we sign a top young talent such as Mangala. Plus, Jones' future isn't necessarily clear and he seems to be spending more time in midfield nowadays than at centre back. Personally I think Mangala would be a good acquisition.