Confirmed at City, video link related.
http://video.mcfc.co.uk/services/pl...-bI_QrK1bSooWJI_xYcmcBQlM&bctid=3695122669001
http://video.mcfc.co.uk/services/pl...-bI_QrK1bSooWJI_xYcmcBQlM&bctid=3695122669001
Eliaquim Mangala
- Thread starter KM
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
- Status
City sign Mangala.. we chase Vermaelen..
Hm, video stopped working. City must have taken it down.
It was just some behind the scenes thing of Mangala getting a medical and signing the contract.
It was just some behind the scenes thing of Mangala getting a medical and signing the contract.
I'll never understand why we didn't go for benetia. He was clearly for sale and money is apparently "no object".
I'm not convinced that he's an upgrade on Kompany, MDM or Nastasic tbh.
Well it's hard to be an upgrade on Kompany to be fair - he's 28 now though.
If he signs we have Mangala at 23 and Nastasic at 21 - could set us up for many years to come after learning a thing or two from the rest.
Pretty impossible to find to be fair.
I'm not convinced Kompany is the best at City. MdM at the World Cup showed for me he's a much more intelligent player than Kompany who's quite rash IMO.
He really doesn't want to go there, does he? 
You get the feeling he's been holding out for a move to United, Chelsea or even Barca but either the interest wasn't there or Porto's valuation was too high.
Something seemingly stopped the move in January and is now holding it up in the summer window.
Something seemingly stopped the move in January and is now holding it up in the summer window.
He is partially owned by the third party. I think this is the reason for the delay rather than any other stuff, imagine it's pain in the ass for the clubs to deal with third parties and buying the player's stake.
That's ok, everybody else is though.
I thought third party ownership was quite common in Portugal these days... although I expect everyone involved wants to get a nice big piece of the pie and it still proves to be a stumbling block.
I think I just like the idea that a player doesn't want to move to City.
It's official now - £32m apparently.
Big fee for the young lad, hopefully he delivers.
Big fee for the young lad, hopefully he delivers.
I can imagine it makes the fee quite difficult when transferring to a league that doesn't allow joint ownership.
It's probably that the fees received could look like this: (of a hypothetical £10m fee)
Owner that has 70% of player rights and wants to sell: £5m
Owner that has 20% of rights and wants to sell: £1m
Owner that has 10% of rights and is adamant of not selling £4m
All hypothetical of course but you can see how negotiations would become protracted.
Money well spent I'd say. You now have two great youngsters in Nastasic while Kompany providing the experience alongside Demechielles.
It looks like this was the case; Porto have stated that their 57% ownership was sold for £24m, which means for a £32m transfer the remainder has been picked up for £8m - every party probably has to have their own negotiations with the buying club.
Try £43 million, lad...
If you assume that the 3rd party percentage was sold at the same rate as Porto's then sure. Given every report is going with £32m I think that's a fair assumption for now, lad.. Either way it's done.
Do you expect Doyen Sports will happily sell his share of the Mangala deal to City at a reduced rate? Why would he do that?
"Porto are getting €30.5 million for their 57% so I'll gladly accept €8.5 million for my 43%. Thanks, Sheikh."
Laughable.
Last edited:
What if a deal was struck with the third parties and then they approached Porto for their share, in which case this post off bluemoon wouldn't be too far off:
Porto will obviously value their share higher as they have put the hours in on the training pitch and there will be image rights and all that malarky. He didnt ask for a move as far as im aware so Porto will have to give some straight back to him. All the third party have to do is hope their investment grows in value
I highly doubt city would pay the third party at the same rate as the club that have developed the player. All the reliable sources are reporting it as £32m too.
Well then they didn't own 56.76% then, did they? Going on that principle, Doyen Sports agreed to a contract outlining that they owned 43.24% of Mangala's rights knowing it wouldn't net them 43.24% of the transfer fee.
Quite bizarre.
Quite bizarre.
He was quality for me on Fifa.
If they were paying the same flat rate, do you really think it'd have taken this long to finalise the deal? Given city's FFP constraints, I highly doubt that they paid £42m for an unproved defender.
I'm personally not that impressed by Mangala, but his profile isvery good and he may well be better than I have observed. The overall concern though is that the likes of City and Chelsea are pulling away from us. Both finished a fair few points ahead of us last season, and have signed 5/6 players each.
We cannot still be working under the delusion of 'this squad won the league (at some point) and Big Bad Moyes made all these natural born winners feel they were so rubbish so they played as such'. The squad hasn't done anywhere enough to catch up with the big European teams this summer. I honestly think we're still at least £100m short, despite spending £60m already.
Of course, judgement must be reserved until September 1st. Would have rather we didn't get dragged into a risky last day trolley-dash though.
We cannot still be working under the delusion of 'this squad won the league (at some point) and Big Bad Moyes made all these natural born winners feel they were so rubbish so they played as such'. The squad hasn't done anywhere enough to catch up with the big European teams this summer. I honestly think we're still at least £100m short, despite spending £60m already.
Of course, judgement must be reserved until September 1st. Would have rather we didn't get dragged into a risky last day trolley-dash though.
I see Mangala stock fell a bit but last year was an atypical year with Porto in turmoil and a very bad managerial appointment. He didn´t have a positive year but i still think the potencial is there. Under proper guidance and with quality center back partner (not the likes of Maicon or Ba), i think he will keep evolving into a very good player. Im particulary intrigued to see how he will mesh with Kompany. If it works, they have their center back duo sorted for the next 5 to 6 years. And that´s very good in terms of defensive stability.
I can confirm that he's a right beast on Pro Evolution Soccer too.
Zabaleta Kompany Mangala Kolarov
Sagna Demichelis Nastasic Clichy
Great to see us finally addressing the lack of depth in our defensive options.
Sagna Demichelis Nastasic Clichy
Great to see us finally addressing the lack of depth in our defensive options.
With City spending this kind of money (and Chelsea obviously) its becoming increasingly obvious that United are not going to find 'value' in the market. LVG is going to try and win it with kids. Fair play to him.
Not as good as Nastasic, real waste of money.
You'd think clubs would have learned by now, you only go to the Portugese league if you want to get outrageously ripped off.
You'd think clubs would have learned by now, you only go to the Portugese league if you want to get outrageously ripped off.
Not bad at all. Makes me even more uneasy when I look at the utter dross we have.
What the feck is going on. What is this monstrosity and where have all the fully grown adults gone to let this nonsense happen? Jesus wept. Somebody has spent actual time doing that.
You do get the odd world beater from that league mind you.
He has all the physical attributes you would want in a CB.
It looks like the MEN's Photoshop crack stopped working, so they had to force something together in Microsoft Paint.
But he is a very good leader and every team needs one. He steps up when City aren't getting it their way. Probably of the same ilk as Adams at Arsenal.
He is, Nastasic was great at first for City but he's not been the same since his injury. Mangala's had a poor season by his standards but he's a good player. Not worth what City have paid but when both on form, Mangala's definitely better.
It's not just Kompanys leadership qualities that make him the best defender at City, the original post was rubbish - Demichelis is not a better defender than Kompany, who is easily in the top five in world football.
Last edited:
That's awful, they've completely spelt Manchester wrong. I'm usually funnier than this...
- Status