TwoSheds
More sheds (and tiles) than you, probably
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Genuinely feels like some on here get off on creating their own doom and gloom scenarios.
Genuinely feels like some on here get off on creating their own doom and gloom scenarios.
It's not drama it's the truthImagine if the world was as dramatic as it is in your head.
It's not drama it's the truth
I'm not making it up that we already talked to his people Ducker, Luckhurst and French Papers have said it. If he wanted to be here we'd have done the deal by now and if he happens to join us in the last days after being forced to settle for his last option he only comes here out of convenience not own will which does NOT paint a good picture
It's not drama it's the truth
I'm not making it up that we already talked to his people Ducker, Luckhurst and French Papers have said it. If he wanted to be here we'd have done the deal by now and if he happens to join us in the last days after being forced to settle for his last option he only comes here out of convenience not own will which does NOT paint a good picture
I think for me the issue is if we decide to wait for Camavinga to make his mind up on the last day when PSG don't come in..
He has one year left on his contract, one of the best upcoming midfield talents, little to no immediate competition for him and available for a cheap fee. Do you really think a deal like this is so complicated compared to Sancho/Varane? Again if he wanted to be here we'd have completed this deal by nowthere is no way of knowing this
we could be negotiating or trying to shift some before we commit to another big purchase, it's impossible to know really
nothing about our transfer dealings in recent years suggests it's as simple as you make it to be
He has one year left on his contract, one of the best upcoming midfield talents, little to no immediate competition for him and available for a cheap fee. Do you really think a deal like this is so complicated compared to Sancho/Varane? Again if he wanted to be here we'd have completed this deal by now
Everything went silent after the initial news of our interest and consequent news he preferred PSG/Spain
And if you've been following our recent transfer dealings you'd know we only ever approach the club when we get the green light from the player rarely if ever the other way round
I don't think the sell to buy thing is completely set in stoneokay assuming all this is correct
so what if we need to sell before we can buy?
You're conveniently forgetting Rennes in this scenario. The amount being quoted for him varies quite significantly, so there's a strong chance we could be waiting for the price to come down. For what it's worth, I don't believe he's particularly bothered about coming to us, but I also don't think it won't happen because it hasn't already happened. We also can't register him unless we sell two players.He has one year left on his contract, one of the best upcoming midfield talents, little to no immediate competition for him and available for a cheap fee. Do you really think a deal like this is so complicated compared to Sancho/Varane? Again if he wanted to be here we'd have completed this deal by now
Everything went silent after the initial news of our interest and consequent news he preferred PSG/Spain
And if you've been following our recent transfer dealings you'd know we only ever approach the club when we get the green light from the player rarely if ever the other way round
It's not drama it's the truth
I'm not making it up that we already talked to his people Ducker, Luckhurst and French Papers have said it. If he wanted to be here we'd have done the deal by now and if he happens to join us in the last days after being forced to settle for his last option he only comes here out of convenience not own will which does NOT paint a good picture
That is not truth that is your own speculationIt's not drama it's the truth
I'm not making it up that we already talked to his people Ducker, Luckhurst and French Papers have said it. If he wanted to be here we'd have done the deal by now and if he happens to join us in the last days after being forced to settle for his last option he only comes here out of convenience not own will which does NOT paint a good picture
The audacity. The first line of the post you made that started this began:Why can't people understand that different people will have different opinions about a lot of subjects? Why do people have to come after another poster with sarcastic comments? There is a way to put your point across without being an imbecile. Read my first post, read how the original responder acted, then the follow up by the guy who had no clue to what was going on, then you come into it as well. Like I said in an earlier post, people just want to keep their post count up.
You're conveniently forgetting Rennes in this scenario. The amount being quoted for him varies quite significantly, so there's a strong chance we could be waiting for the price to come down. For what it's worth, I don't believe he's particularly bothered about coming to us, but I also don't think it won't happen because it hasn't already happened. We also can't register him unless we sell two players.
Yeah, there are a hell a lot of assumptions that have to be made to have a definitive standpoint on this transfer. Think people expect in an age of Romano, regular updates. When really, there isn't any and won't be for a bit.Completely agree. If we are interested in him and if he is willing to come here, I don't see us being in a rush to meet Rennes asking price. The closer to the deadline we get, the closer they get to loosing one of their biggest assets for free and the more their asking price will come down.
If he isn't interested in coming, I'm sure we've been made aware and moved on by now
Rennes are apparently quoting €40m which isn't really ridiculous money for a talented 18yr old. We're be wasting a lot of time if we think we can buy for something like €20/25m.You're conveniently forgetting Rennes in this scenario. The amount being quoted for him varies quite significantly, so there's a strong chance we could be waiting for the price to come down. For what it's worth, I don't believe he's particularly bothered about coming to us, but I also don't think it won't happen because it hasn't already happened. We also can't register him unless we sell two players.
Going by what the reliable papers(including those close to Utd like James Ducker who's highly rated even here) even in France are saying and I'd rather take the word of credible people than live in biased hopeful thoughtsHow do you know that we haven't had very positive talks with him but need to confirm outgoings before we can commit? Seems equally plausible to me
Look at how we swiftly looked to do deals for Varane/Sancho after personal terms were done. We wouldn't be going through a ridiculous level of hassle and bassle for a fee only to be rejected by the player like Spurs with Kounde early in the windowThat is not truth that is your own speculation
I just don't get the impression that he will "make up his mind" and choose between either PSG or United.
It seems to me, that he will sit tight until January, and then he has the choice of every major club in Europe.
He really doesn't need to rush into anything.
If Patrice Evra was asked "Real Madrid or Manchester United, pick one" when he was a Monaco player. There is every possibility that he would have chosen Real Madrid.
Just a point to illustrate the fact that not being a player's "ideal destination" really isn't something to be overly fussed about.
What? These have been deals in the making for about 2 years apparently by all reports.Rennes are apparently quoting €40m which isn't really ridiculous money for a talented 18yr old. We're be wasting a lot of time if we think we can buy for something like €20/25m.
Look at how we looked to conclude the Sancho/Varane deals quickly and look at how we've gone silent on Cama since talk of other preferences came up look into that what you will
we wont make an offer unless we know he will accept and wants to come, so you are probably rightIf his club accepts an offer he'll move.
I’ve seen a YouTube compilation. Looks sensational. I’m sold. Pay whatever it takes to get him. Generational talent.Has anyone seen him play?
we wont make an offer unless we know he will accept and wants to come, so you are probably right
How do you know? Did he leave you a voicemail?He doesn't want to come.
We spoke to Sancho and Varane despite them being under contract with permission from their clubs before agreeing a feeWell yeah that is true.
Although technically we shouldn't know as we aren't meant to speak to players under contact....
Difference is Evra jumped at the chance to join Utd when the opportunity arose immediately Camavinga is making us wait to see if his preferred options make a move and he may still say no to leave in a year when they will. We're not every player's ideal destinations but we shouldn't be treated as a side option and just accept it with a blind eye.If Patrice Evra was asked "Real Madrid or Manchester United, pick one" when he was a Monaco player. There is every possibility that he would have chosen Real Madrid.
Just a point to illustrate the fact that not being a player's "ideal destination" really isn't something to be overly fussed about.
Difference is Evra jumped at the chance to join Utd when the opportunity arose immediately Camavinga is making us wait to see if his preferred options make a move and he may still say no to leave in a year when they will. We're not every player's ideal destinations but we shouldn't be treated as a side option and just accept it with a blind eye.
We spoke to Sancho and Varane despite them being under contract with permission from their clubs before agreeing a fee
Utd are 100% not sending a bid for Camavinga until they're sure he'd say yes
Some people want that. Plenty of others want to continue with two defensively solid midfielders but want to get significantly better ball-playing ability that our current options (particularly McTominay) provide. That's where Neves in theory might work well, playing next to Fred or McTominay to improve our creativity and control without leaving us more open defensively.
I have question marks over whether he's good enough to be the answer, but he is the right 'type' of player to provide what I think we should be working towards.
Yeah, he’s a kid that grew up watching a national hero peel off trophy after trophy at Madrid. Then he saw the next great Brazilian player along with the next great French player join PSG and get paid.If Patrice Evra was asked "Real Madrid or Manchester United, pick one" when he was a Monaco player. There is every possibility that he would have chosen Real Madrid.
Just a point to illustrate the fact that not being a player's "ideal destination" really isn't something to be overly fussed about.
Are you sure that is the case? I bet Woodward & Co are waiting around to try low-balling Rennes with an offer at the end of the transfer window. They probably should too.
Alot of attention on Camavinga prefering Real or PSG, but for some reason he chose an english agent with all of their players in the PL. Konate really wanted to go to the PL and did the same. Just like most clubs was desperate for Camavinga, most agents probably where too. But he went for ICM Stellar Sports.
Agreed. There's no point in sending a bid unless we know the player would like to join us.We spoke to Sancho and Varane despite them being under contract with permission from their clubs before agreeing a fee
Utd are 100% not sending a bid for Camavinga until they're sure he'd say yes