Where did I say he did us a favour? At the time it looked like he wanted to move on but was convinced to stay.
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Where did I say he did us a favour? At the time it looked like he wanted to move on but was convinced to stay.
Another sign of the Cultural reset. I find it impossible to get behind a player that has no interest in actually being at the club. Fair play to him on the occasions he has played, he puts in a shift but he doesn’t want to be here & has never wanted to be from previous overstays.
I like his attitude and passion on the pitch, but the love he gets from our fans is very over the top. He's unreliable and picks and chooses when he can be bothered to play. The contrast between how he is viewed in comparison to a guy like Fred, is staggering.
Yeah there was that game, forgot about that.
I get your point about the moaning. I like Cavani so sort of tolerate his absences. But I do think its a bit much to highlight the work/life balance of a guy who barely plays.
Fair for you to say as well. From my perspective there is more to being a professional footballer than playing matches. If we have the squad to allow players additional time off here and there it shouldn't be an issue on matchdays. Despite Cavani being based in Europe for forever now, he's still a long way from home so in this instance allowing him a couple of days to see family when he was already there representing Uruguay is no biggie. Happy employees are a good thing.
According to Google Uruguay played Tuesday and Brazil played Wednesday. Could be wrong though. Playing has no impact on the ability to get on a plane.
I felt it was implied. We didn’t have to throw in a sweetener, he was contractually obliged to stay. Given we bent over backwards to accommodate him he should probably make more effort to show up for games.
Shows a bit of passion to appease the fans then goes on his little breaks. Rinse and repeat.
The manager also encouraging this nonsense when we need the option.
Along with Lingard the attitude stinks IMO.
If I did the same at my work it would be deemed as Leave without Pay.
If I did the same at my work it would be deemed as Leave without Pay.
I watched the games, trust me both were on Tuesday and Cavani played and Fred did not. I didn't say anything about the ability to get on a plane, just pointed out you had your details wrong concerning the games and that the situations are not identical. I am assuming the Google situation is due to time zones, the Brazil game kicked off later in the evening so in the UK would probably have been early Wednesday morning but for where they were in the world both games were on Tuesday. I agree playing has no impact on your ability to get on a plane but to quote RR himself, Fred did not play Tuesday and so is in the squad for Boro whereas Telles did play and is being rested therefore clearly as Cavani also played he would not have been selected anyway so why people are losing their shit over him spending a couple of days with his family is mental.
Ok, no worries. Still lots of the season left to go. Let's see how often he's involved. There are much bigger games coming where we'll need him than Boro in the FA Cup.
They don't give you holidays at your job?
It’s academic really. Brazil played later and Fred still made it back for training. Because he actually wanted to. That’s the important matter. It would also be less of an issue if Cavani didn’t have previous for either choosing when he fancies playing or having extended holidays.
Most businesses operate on ensuring their business needs are covered. Generally football operates on giving holidays off season.
And we have a full squad except for three or four players, think we'll be alright.
The fact that we probably do not need him on Monday is irrelevant , it just ranks of a part time football club , we seem to have a lot of players who are very laid back and not fully committed about playing for us. It is just the low work rate culture that has been allowed to fester and seep into the club. I don't think these players would even think of asking for extra time off and recovering in Dubai etc if they were at a serious club.
At least with Rangnick it is out in the open , he knows very well what he is doing by putting this in the public domain. Some journalists twitting that this happened a lot under Ole as well but Ole used to cover for them making up some injury story etc.
At least with Rangnick it is out in the open , he knows very well what he is doing by putting this in the public domain. Some journalists twitting that this happened a lot under Ole as well but Ole used to cover for them making up some injury story etc.
That’s not really the point. We’ve set the precedent that players can just ask for extra time off and expect to get it.
Only at the end of the season
You seem to think that requesting time off from work is abnormal.
Love him when he plays but not sure what's up with him off the pitch.
Bit of a part timer. Not really surprised when he's only here for another few months and we had to beg him to stay (twice), his heart probably isn't really in it.
We should have let him go before the start of the season, it has been a waste of time keeping a hold of him, especially on the wages he is on. I guess we had no choice but to keep him in the January window with only really having Ronaldo who now who can play upfront.
Just like his later days at P.S.G, he is rarely available for selection and has been pretty disappointing when he has played. There always seems to be fitness issues with him, even last season, were he did well when he was able "to make himself unavailable".
I dislike that he can seemingly choose himself when he plays, it always seems that he chooses if he is fit or not, not the physio etc. it has been mentioned so many times in press conferences, Edi doesn't feel ready, blah, blah, blah, yet he always seems to make himself available for his country.
That's not having a dig at him for not been able to play tonight that is fair enough if he only came back yesterday.
Just like his later days at P.S.G, he is rarely available for selection and has been pretty disappointing when he has played. There always seems to be fitness issues with him, even last season, were he did well when he was able "to make himself unavailable".
I dislike that he can seemingly choose himself when he plays, it always seems that he chooses if he is fit or not, not the physio etc. it has been mentioned so many times in press conferences, Edi doesn't feel ready, blah, blah, blah, yet he always seems to make himself available for his country.
That's not having a dig at him for not been able to play tonight that is fair enough if he only came back yesterday.
This, but as per usual some fans are up in arms about the whole thing.
people are going a bit OTT aren't they?
Did you all used to moan when Ji Sung Park would miss games becuase of jetlag too?
I'm sure he wants to play but they're just being realistic. I doubt he would have started anyway.
Did you all used to moan when Ji Sung Park would miss games becuase of jetlag too?
I'm sure he wants to play but they're just being realistic. I doubt he would have started anyway.
Yep.
I’ve said it before but the guys a joke. Never seen somebody less committed to the club, does he ever want to come back once he’s gone on international duty? Had to be told he wouldn’t be allowed to leave in January which is fortunate for us now with MG.
This guy doesn’t want to be here, classic mercenary picking up millions for doing sod all. The only thing different is our fans seem to lap this up from Cavani.
Imagine Lingard, Martial, Pogba taking extra days off after internationals because ‘dog died’ they’d be abused from the rafters. There’s nothing different here except Cavani has taken the piss many times in two years and contributed two months of good football in that time.
This guy doesn’t want to be here, classic mercenary picking up millions for doing sod all. The only thing different is our fans seem to lap this up from Cavani.
Imagine Lingard, Martial, Pogba taking extra days off after internationals because ‘dog died’ they’d be abused from the rafters. There’s nothing different here except Cavani has taken the piss many times in two years and contributed two months of good football in that time.
He wouldn't have played anyway given the distance to travel so there's no harm giving him extra days. He's experienced enough that we can trust he knows how to stay fit and ready here or not.
I have absolutely no problem at all with a player being granted 2 days off when he has played recently for his NT and wouldn’t be selected anyway. The manager has said as much. Outrage for outrages sake.
lingard gets guff cause his lack of productivity is in stark contrast to his delusions of importance and worth. He should have been gone seasons ago...he moans about not getting a chance, trying to stir shit on social mediaand then, whether told by the club or not, passes up the first genuine opportunity for 90 minutes in months. He is a joke.
Martial has had his attitude publicly questioned by multiple managers as well as being evidenced by his lack of consistency and game time under numerous managers. His sulking after the shirt number incident is the complete opposite of Cavani’s attitude to Ronaldo even though Cavani’s standing in the game, the role the 7 shirt played in his initial signing and the implications in general of Utd signing an almost direct replacement certain of taking the majority of his playing time, made Cavani’s pill a much more bitter one to swallow. It’s night and day.
Pogba, people are just sick of the guy. 5 years of mediocrity and a look of indifference when you need him most makes the average fan understandably cold towards someone. On the other hand, Cavani, even when shit- puts in a shift...remember that...the basics of any Utd player - don’t get out worked by your opponent? Ferguson’s words not mine.
Cavani hasn’t set the club alight but let’s not embarrass ourselves here by saying that you question Cavani’s efforts for the club when fit?his execution is that of an injury prone 34 year old...his application is that of a hungry 20 year old. It’s quite remarkable in fact.
Regarding this bullshit of “declaring himself fit”... Cavani has been injury prone for god knows how long. He is trusted to know his own body because he is a top professional with a top attitude. Not my opinion. Read any number of comments from colleagues and managers about him...none of whom agree with the assessments many of you on here have made...except they have actually played and worked with him. It is the relationship he builds with people that allow them to trust his opinions on his fitness - if the medics/Ralf forced him to play you lot would be in here screaming blue murder about our medical team again and not knowing how to manage an injury prone 34 year old.
RR said himself...regarding Cavani coming to him and confirming his desire to stay at the club in December...
“This is, for me, good news because Edi is one of those players with his vast amount of experience, his mentality, his work ethic, who could really be a perfect role model for all the other players.”
Finally, why would he give a fuk about Utd in the same way as any of the players you mentioned? Has he been here since he was 7 like Jesse? Or was he brought in as a precocious teenager for huge money and persevered with by multiple managers while being paid an eye watering salary? Or was he raised in the academy, building bonds with staff from an early age only to return to the club for a record fee as the second coming? All those players have more intrinsic links to the club...yet give less effort where it counts...in training and on the pitch- it’s why even at 34...when fit...Cavani plays.
Cavani was bought as a super sub stop gap.He has done that just fine...and showed a fantastic attitude by all accounts of the only people who can truly comment on his attitude- those who have actually encountered him.
your post is rubbish.
ps: I’m not even a fan of the guy.
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I think a footballer asking for and getting extended holidays as frequently as Cavani does is abnormal. You seem to think one employee getting more holidays than every other employee is normal. It isn’t.
This.
It's a classic example of some fans being angry at something for the sake of it. Being normal is too boring I guess. Players traveling from SA and being afforded extra days isn't something unusual
Pretty cracking post, well put. OTT reactions to this news.
i've liked his work so far this month. This is solely based on the fact he is Mr February on the calendar. He has a good face to look at as i come down the stairs.
Have to agree with this.
How often is that, twice?
Employees are allowed time off. They put in requests and they get approved. He would not have been available for selection even if he'd been in the first flight back. It's nothing.
To summarize.
Had Cavani hopped straight on a plane he would not have been selected for the FA Cup game due to playing on Tuesday and travel, RR confirmed this and indeed he is taking the same approach with Telles who did fly straight back.
The next game is in the PL on Tuesday and Cavani will be fit and available.
WTF are people getting upset about. There is literally nothing to see here and shit stirring cnuts like Ogden and Luckhurst can do one.
Had Cavani hopped straight on a plane he would not have been selected for the FA Cup game due to playing on Tuesday and travel, RR confirmed this and indeed he is taking the same approach with Telles who did fly straight back.
The next game is in the PL on Tuesday and Cavani will be fit and available.
WTF are people getting upset about. There is literally nothing to see here and shit stirring cnuts like Ogden and Luckhurst can do one.
Twice if we don’t count when he declares himself unfit.
Yes they are. Generally everyone is allowed the same amount of time off.
Rangnick said he wouldn’t have started. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t be in the squad. Training is also important. We also have a game on Tuesday.
Whats this notion about him declaring himself fit or not?
Seems like these 2 read this place or even post here.
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