Eddy_JukeZ
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United didn't need to or want to sell Ronaldo either.
If Hazard pushes for the move, he'll be off.
If Hazard pushes for the move, he'll be off.
Even if they did, I don't see Hazard going this season. I think he'll want to try his luck in CL with Chelsea at the very least next year.They'll be disappointed when they see him in a Chelsea shirt next season. I'd focus on how my own team can match and/or surpass Chelsea if I were a rival fan. There's already a 2 year extension in the works for Hazard. That'll put his contract at 2022. Madrid will pay an arm and a leg if they really want him that badly.
It does look as if people are basing their hopes on Chelsea selling their best players . Is this the only way forward for Chelsea's rivals.?
Bale is better.
He's been better and more consistent on the biggest stages. He also turns up for his country.
I'm certainly not ready to confidently claim no he won't go, but it has been rumoured his family is settled and happy in London, and he's always come across as someone who isn't entirely focused on being a "superstar" at a club. There is no denying Real is a big pull, with the weather and way of life. I would hope he comes out and clears the situation up sometime soon. The international break doesn't help the situation as there's constant rumours circulating all the time, so I will be glad when the Premier League resumes. The other thing is how fanatical the fans of Real Madrid are when it comes to their players. If Eden has a poor run of games, he will be chastised beyond belief by their fans without a doubt. It has happened to Ronaldo even, so Hazard would not be immune from it.
What on earth has made you say this? Real have reportedly been long term admirers of Hazard with the latter often speaking of a desire to move there.As soon as they're priced out of Mbappe they quickly push the Hazard story, thus the 'Madrid always get their man' narrative can continue.
There isn't a chance in hell that they've chosen Hazard over Mbappe. That story seems to have been dropped after the initial surge a few weeks ago.
This is bonkers. And I dont even rate Hazard that highlyThere isn't a chance in hell that they've chosen Hazard over Mbappe.
I'm terrified by the idea of us spending a world record fee for hazard only to play him in midfield and throw away a season trying to fit him and the bbc together.
And then i read marca mentioning hazard earns €10M a year after tax and would have to accept less money to play for us and the fear disappears. It's just marca being marca. Again
Its the hype and glitz that Madrid are after and I'm not even saying they'll sign Hazard.This is bonkers. And I dont even rate Hazard that highly
And eedless to say, who ever buys Mbappe now will only be nursing him till his move to Madrid in a few years.
So do you think playing hazard as an offensive box-to-box midfielder on a team that already has 3 forwards who barely even pretend to defend, two of whom barely participate in build up and are often actual liabilities when going for a possession based game would work swimmingly without a hitch?Then you really don't understand how good he is, lol at 'fitting him' in, Hazard is one of the most adaptable players you could buy, could play in a possession based sysytem just as easily as he could in a counter attacking one, can carry the load, or can take a relaxed approach and let others shine, his best attributes are to do with providing other players chances, so automatically he fits in with Bale and Ronaldo in that respect, may dribble a bit too much for their liking, but in tough tight constricted games with no space to manoeuvre, a player with Hazard's qualities could easily end up being your most important player, he is basically an attacking Modric further up the field, he is incredible.
Plan A was and i think still is Dybala. Hazard is apparently plan BIts the hype and glitz that Madrid are after and I'm not even saying they'll sign Hazard.
If that then proves difficult they'll leak that they're looking at both Hazard and Dybala (whoever plan c is) and Hazard will be slowly fazed out.
We've seen this exact strategy with DDG and Courtois already and it's only March.
Madrid are testing the waters and will go down the list until there is someone they can actually afford minus a Morata / James move to free up funds.
I think if it were to happen, there would be 1/2 players going the other way (Morata likely for starters).I think Real would struggle to finance Hazard. Long term contract and Chelsea are rich with a rich owner who wants success above all else. I don't think 100m would do it either, not in today's market.
I think if it were to happen, there would be 1/2 players going the other way (Morata likely for starters).
Doubt it, swap deals are rare.I think if it were to happen, there would be 1/2 players going the other way (Morata likely for starters).
Chelsea are interested in a new striker this summer and they reportedly wanted Morata last summer and want him this summer, so even if it isn't necessarily a swap deal, the two players may still end up playing for the other team.Doubt it, swap deals are rare.
I suppose I should want him to move on to weaken Chelsea. Honestly though, I enjoy watching him play and hope he stays, makes the Premier League better and the more this league resists the allure of the big 2 in Spain, the better. Except for Liverpool, their best players should go to Spain as often as they fancy.
This is one of the reasons why I think it's not worth it for anyone who isn't Madrid to go after Mbappe. They'll come for him once you're able to turn him into a world class player, the sleazy cnuts.This is bonkers. And I dont even rate Hazard that highly
And eedless to say, who ever buys Mbappe now will only be nursing him till his move to Madrid in a few years.
The "Courtois to Madrid" story was gaining a lot of steam as well until Courtois, known to have a big mouth, used his big mouth in proper fashion this time and came out slamming the story saying a simple "no", along with reiterating that he's happy at Chelsea, feels important to the team and sees himself here long term. Guarantee you they'll be after Lloris at some point. Premier League clubs need to learn to give Madrid the middle finger. United can do that. I think Chelsea will show this summer that we can too. But I don't think Spurs can. What they do have going for them though is that Levy is a fecking stubborn bastard and probably feels hurt he's had to sell 2 of his best players over the last 6 years to Madrid.Its the hype and glitz that Madrid are after and I'm not even saying they'll sign Hazard.
If that then proves difficult they'll leak that they're looking at both Hazard and Dybala (whoever plan c is) and Hazard will be slowly fazed out.
We've seen this exact strategy with DDG and Courtois already and it's only March.
Madrid are testing the waters and will go down the list until there is someone they can actually afford minus a Morata / James move to free up funds.
Not a snowball's chance in hell Juventus sell Dybala to Madrid after getting shafted by Madrid on Morata.Plan A was and i think still is Dybala. Hazard is apparently plan B
Plan C could be anybody from Mbappé to Dembelé, though i don't think we want to sign them quite yet
Didn't Benitez try playing him directly at CF and got Ronaldo unhappy, ultimately getting the sack?I've seen Balague saying for a year or two now that Ronaldo has been transitioned into a central striker and does less running now so it makes sense signing Hazard who's arguably the best left sided attacker around since Ronaldo moved more in field, a Bale-Ronaldo-Hazard front trio is frightening though.
Like how Di Maria was a great fit at United?I am very uninterested in his potential move unless he'd move to us. If he stays, it's only good for the league if he goes Chelsea will have to invest in another player which can mean we might lose on someone but, we should stay ambitious in the market, Griezmann is the target thoug even though Hazard is a better player and would fit much better in united, but that ship has sailed long time ago
I think if it were to happen, there would be 1/2 players going the other way (Morata likely for starters).
But is Gullit ITK, when it comes to Chelsea's transfers though? I mean he may still have some connections at the club, but I'd doubt he'd know any more than what your board tell select few journos in the media. There's been no confirmation or denial at this stage from Chelsea's side, but even if Hazard to Madrid was a real possibility, there's no way Chelsea would do anything other than deny it.Won't happen.
Selling Hazard goes against the medium to long term plans we have as far as challenging in Europe and becoming a true European force on the level of Barca/Madrid/Bayern. We have increased revenue coming in next season with the new PL deal and the new Nike deal, we're about to expand our stadium AND our owner doesn't need the money. Also, and perhaps most importantly, Hazard isn't pushing for the move. He has mentioned several times this season how this is the happiest he's been since he joined us in 2012. The plan is to make major signings this summer that can take us to that level for the next 3-5 seasons with Conte at the helm. There's no one in world football that can replace Hazard (the only players who could - Neymar and Bale - are just as available as Ronaldo and Messi). So you see, we have absolutely no reason to sell. The only party pushing for this is Madrid. And you can really tell they want him, pushing those stories through their mouthpiece Marca and as if that wasn't enough, having Calderon come out today mouthing off about Hazard.But is Gullit ITK, when it comes to Chelsea's transfers though? I mean he may still have some connections at the club, but I'd doubt he'd know any more than what your board tell select few journos in the media. There's been no confirmation or denial at this stage from Chelsea's side, but even if Hazard to Madrid was a real possibility, there's no way Chelsea would do anything other than deny it.
Oh I think they're interested in Hazard. But nothing will happen.Meh.
If we're to believe the press, Real Madrid will line up with Hazard, Dybala, Mbappe, Aubameyang and Andre Silva up front next season. Just because they're loaded and Florentino is bonkers doesn't mean they are after any of those players. The press just prints whatever agents feed them in order to get teams to pay their players more. And Madrid is the big bogeyman.
While Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema are there, they won't make a big money move for an attacker.
Goalkeeper is a completely different matter though.
This is one of the reasons why I think it's not worth it for anyone who isn't Madrid to go after Mbappe. They'll come for him once you're able to turn him into a world class player, the sleazy cnuts.
The "Courtois to Madrid" story was gaining a lot of steam as well until Courtois, known to have a big mouth, used his big mouth in proper fashion this time and came out slamming the story saying a simple "no", along with reiterating that he's happy at Chelsea, feels important to the team and sees himself here long term. Guarantee you they'll be after Lloris at some point. Premier League clubs need to learn to give Madrid the middle finger. United can do that. I think Chelsea will show this summer that we can too. But I don't think Spurs can. What they do have going for them though is that Levy is a fecking stubborn bastard and probably feels hurt he's had to sell 2 of his best players over the last 6 years to Madrid.
Not a snowball's chance in hell Juventus sell Dybala to Madrid after getting shafted by Madrid on Morata.
Didn't Benitez try playing him directly at CF and got Ronaldo unhappy, ultimately getting the sack?
Like how Di Maria was a great fit at United?
Won't happen.
Fair enough, but the key in all of this is what Hazard ultimately wants. Even though, he's got a good few years left on his contract, if he really pushes for a move and Madrid offer something reasonable, it'd make sense to sell. We sold Ronaldo in similar circumstances, due to his strong desire to play for Madrid. Of course, Hazard's situation may well be entirely different and he may not want to push for a move altogether, meaning this whole potential saga has just been made up entirely from Madrid's side.Selling Hazard goes against the medium to long term plans we have as far as challenging in Europe and becoming a true European force on the level of Barca/Madrid/Bayern. We have increased revenue coming in next season with the new PL deal and the new Nike deal, we're about to expand our stadium AND our owner doesn't need the money. Also, and perhaps most importantly, Hazard isn't pushing for the move. He has mentioned several times this season how this is the happiest he's been since he joined us in 2012. The plan is to make major signings this summer that can take us to that level for the next 3-5 seasons with Conte at the helm. There's no one in world football that can replace Hazard (the only players who could - Neymar and Bale - are just as available as Ronaldo and Messi). So you see, we have absolutely no reason to sell. The only party pushing for this is Madrid. And you can really tell they want him, pushing those stories through their mouthpiece Marca and as if that wasn't enough, having Calderon come out today mouthing off about Hazard.
It's not new. They've been interested in him since 2013. Doesn't mean it'll happen. The only time I can think of us selling a key member of our starting XI is when we sold Robben. But then it wasn't that hard to do because he had a lot of injury problems and we'd already brought in Malouda. Again, Hazard is going nowhere. But if you want to get entertained by the fake "saga", you probably should. It'll last all summer and amount to nothing eventually.
Oh and Gullit has credible sources within Chelsea. You can usually trust his word when people like him and Wilkins and Ballack reveal inside info.
When you adjust for the inflation in today's market, that's probably about 250m today. A 100m spending spree was HUGE in 2004. World record transfer fee at the time was still Zidane's 46m if I'm not mistaken. These days, John Stones is bought for more than that.They only spent 100m in 2004. Even Arsenal spend close to that these days.
Which is why I'm confident. And why I think Chelsea are confident as well. Hazard isn't pushing for the move. His family is settled in London and the lad's pretty big on family. As I said earlier, he has also stated repeatedly how this is the happiest he's been at Chelsea. Chelsea have all the power here. Won't happen. It may happen 1-2 years from now but certainly not this summer.Fair enough, but the key in all of this is what Hazard ultimately wants. Even though, he's got a good few years left on his contract, if he really pushes for a move and Madrid offer something reasonable, it'd make sense to sell. We sold Ronaldo in similar circumstances, due to his strong desire to play for Madrid. Of course, Hazard's situation may well be entirely different and he may not want to push for a move altogether, meaning this whole potential saga has just been made up entirely from Madrid's side.
It's all relative. 100m back then could equal double that or even more today.They only spent 100m in 2004. Even Arsenal spend close to that these days.
Like how Di Maria was a great fit at United?