Hazard is a wonderful player but the domination of the ball he was allowed at Chelsea is unlikely to be accepted at Madrid. Meaning he will have to be more willing to play off the ball, make more runs independent of it. Chelsea became a comfort zone for him, bar a short attempt by Mourinho his self indulgence was rarely checked.
Eden Hazard | "It's time to enjoy life drinking beers"
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The problem is some Madrid fans thought he was going to replace Ronaldo. He was never going to replicate the 40-50 goals a season. If he manages 20 goals in a season, then it's a miraculous season for him. He was always a dribbler and a creator, rather than a goal scorer. Madrid had problems with scoring goals last season, and Hazard alone isn't going to be the answer for it.
The problem is Hazard doesn't have the mentality to succeed at Real
I 100% agree with this.
I wonder how long it takes before the Real Madrid fans start getting annoyed with him.
But he has better fans now!
100% He isn't a killer. All the "he's on Messi and Ronaldo's level" was always trash. How can he be as good as them when he's never reached Rooney, Robben, Ribery, Neymar, Sneijder, etc levels? Yes he's good but it's mostly hype
He's spot on there to be fair, they are so fanatical hence the massive away support you see at La Liga games all the time
Well, because our game tickets are more expensive than the EPL having in mind wage disparity.
https://www.stadiumguide.com/ticket-prices-in-europe-our-analysis/
Disregarding the fact that for some fans, like Celta playing at Almeria, it'd take a 1193km trip, that's a longest trip than from London to the northest point of Scotland
https://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2017/09/20/59c2d11a468aebfe078b45e2.html
You may think that Hazard is just sugarcoating his new league, or that, despite being unable to support their teams in the stands as English and Germans are able to do, they're still pretty passionate about their club.
I didn't watch the match but I think he's a terrific player, but the biggest issue he'll face is that he's joined a team thats very much on the out. The core players have had their glory and will need to be phased out, and he'll be stuck in between that and a rebuild. If he went to City or Barca for example I think he'd tear it up, but at Madrid he'll expected to be the next Ronaldo which already would be hard enough but made even harder by not having the supporting cast Ronaldo had.
Biggest issue is his own mentality.
Real Madrid's own Coutinho?
Yep, Barça should have signed a player who was not deemed as good as Coutinho at the time: Mane.
And Madrid should have gone balls out (180m+) for a player no one considered as good as Hazard in the summer: Mane.
Those two are, and have been for a while, mentally inferior players. Skilful sure, but not one you want in your corner in a fight.
At Chelsea Hazard is the star there and he gets a lot of the ball which allows him to do whatever he likes, Lose possession and have teammates retrieve it and give him back
At Madrid, No one will give him that freedom to do whatever he likes on the ball and Kroos Ramos won't be chasing the ball to hand it back to Hazard to try another round of unsuccessful dribbles
Hazard has to change his game from demanding the ball and being a ball hog to one who makes smart runs and shoots more
At Madrid, No one will give him that freedom to do whatever he likes on the ball and Kroos Ramos won't be chasing the ball to hand it back to Hazard to try another round of unsuccessful dribbles
Hazard has to change his game from demanding the ball and being a ball hog to one who makes smart runs and shoots more
Suddenly stepping into the shoes of a certain #7 who used to play for Real Madrid looks impossible. Then there were some posters who said Madrid missed Zidane more last season.
In France we call him "Bedaine Hazard" (fat belly Hazard), god he was terrible tonight. Good for us.
Jesus Christ Freud, steady on
It's amazing how so many fully qualified psychologists all found their way to Redcafe. Huge coincidence.
Their ability to mentally assess professional footballers having never even actually spoken to them is doubly amazing.
After how many full games would you make such a proclamation? How long did it take for Modric to impress at Mardid?
Common sense please.
I think Hazard will eventually need another big star in Real Madrid that will score 30+ goals per season. He'll have a hard time fulfilling the expectations of the supporters there, he's not that kind of player. I hope for his sake that he's strong enough to handle the whistles after 2 games without a goal, but imo he's far better than Coutinho.
If Madrid fans turn on Hazard id gladly take him at United, he's an incredible footballer.
Like that was such a huge indictment I had to say something.
Isn't it a bit Knee-jerk, I mean he just started his first match for them
Pretty sure he said he'd never play for another Prem team besides Chelsea.
Fabregas said he'd never play for Chelsea
Touche.
He’s just not setup right in the team. Everything should move through him since he’s the best ball carrier they have. Blame it on Zidane more than anything.
Hazard is a wonderful player. Possibly the best dribbler in world football.
Should really have replaced Neymar at PSG, he’d have been brilliant in their possession based setup with a more tactically adept manager.
May have to wait for a world class striker like Mbappe to join Madrid for Hazard to be back to his best. Zidane is clueless about Bale too. The fact he tried to throw him out the club and now is eating his words.
Hazard is a wonderful player. Possibly the best dribbler in world football.
Should really have replaced Neymar at PSG, he’d have been brilliant in their possession based setup with a more tactically adept manager.
May have to wait for a world class striker like Mbappe to join Madrid for Hazard to be back to his best. Zidane is clueless about Bale too. The fact he tried to throw him out the club and now is eating his words.
Liverpool ain't selling their 4-5 top stars. They demand 150-250 million for any of them. And they don't want to live tbw.
What's with Belgian players and getting thicc?
They were still great players, but they weren't arguably the best in their positions like they were at their peak. Ruud's 02-04 and Becks 99-01 were their respective peaks, and it was a slow slide after that for both of them. Combine that with a couple of issues in the dressing room, and Fergie made the call that it was time to sell and rebuild the team. Beckham was supposed to be replaced by Ronaldinho which fell through at the last minute and got changed to Ronaldo instead, then selling Ruud allowed us to change the system of our play to focus more on Ronaldo and Rooney.
No it's not. My original post was saying what Ferguson thought of Madrid, and why.
I then said that Perez is even worse than Calderon. That's my opinion.
Just out of interest, why are you a Madrid fan? And if you read what Ferguson said about Madrid in both interviews (I'm guessing you're not Spanish and can't read the first article I sent you without the help of translate) he has nothing but contempt for Madrid. His contempt goes far further than their actions in a football sense, but also what they politically stand for.
One could get that impression, yes.
They'll turn on him at some point even if he does brilliantly.
They turn on everyone, didn't Ronaldo used to get jeered now and then?
Yes, but he deserved some of it to be fair. Not on a sporting level, but he was insufferable every summer coming up with a story to get a better contract. Also, he's only won 2 Ligas in 9 years, something that seems to me to get swept under the carpet too much. That being said, Madrid fans are insufferable in their own rights so they were made for each other.
He deserved to be jeered??!?!
He scored about 450 goals for them in 9 years! He won 4 out the last 5 CL while being their man star. Bloody hell.
They also have a history for booing Raul no?
We are here if you need us, Squish. It's an Internet forum where we call out who has got bottle and who hasn't.
Football is a game where the highest level of performances are viewed with eyes, not assessed by discussing oedopus on a couch.
Even if you're not a fan of Hazard, that's a ridiculous statement. He's easily as good as the players you mention here. I'd say, only Neymar is a level above that group and the only one in modern football who's got the natural ability to get anywhere near Messi/Ronaldo level of performance but he doesn't have the right mentality.
Probably because he scored 311 goals in 292 league games so blaming him for not winning more league titles is insane.
He never has done it in Europe anyway. Plus he has to move the ball quicker so his habit of wanting to draw a foul instead of passing it goes out the window