The Disneyland thing is defining him for me, how could he even imagine selling the project in this way to a pro football manager. This pitch may work for the noodle companies and the soft toy partner but it still makes me cringe.
Ed Woodward has resigned from Manchester United | 2024: Returns to football
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Snake. Can wriggle his way out of any situation. Club is rotten to the core with him still in charge.
Woodward staying in another role?
I must have been Hitler in my former life
I must have been Hitler in my former life
I'm guessing he's going to advise his replacement to make sure they fully understand the United Way. Just like Putin did.
Going to have to change thread title to "ed woodward has re-signed for manchester united"
I cant imagine Woodward would have listened.
Anyone thinking we're about to see a revolution in how this club (DoF, CEO's etc.) is run is seriously deluded.
I want riots outside OT.
He has resigned for like a year now! just leave ffs. Stop him from giving any more stupid contracts.
How can we change manager if the person in power to make this call is going to leave soon? Surely he can't be bothered to make this call because soon it will not be his problem anymore.
Need to kick this guy out so that the next in line can make the necessary decision.
Need to kick this guy out so that the next in line can make the necessary decision.
Pretty much the only club in the world that rewards failure. You fail in your job, you are a shit player or an awful manager, you get new giga contracts and new jobs whenever you are tired of your previous ones.
It writes itself!Going to have to change thread title to "ed woodward has re-signed for manchester united"
Interview with Van gaal from 2019 going back to his tenure was back in 2015.
Has anything actually changed?
"In the aftermath of Mourinho's exit, United sources stated clearly the appointment of a technical director was on the agenda, in addition to a new manager.
At present, nothing has changed from Van Gaal's time, with Woodward in overall charge and Matt Judge, who has a masters degree in economics and finance and 13 years' experience in investment banking, negotiating fees and contracts. United are adamant their priority is the football side and success on pitch is the objective for everyone at the club. Van Gaal does not agree.
"At the moment there is a structure with a scouting division and above that is someone at Woodward's right hand. The structure is not so bad but the right hand has to be a technical director with a football view, not somebody with a banker's role," Van Gaal says.
"Unfortunately, we are talking about a commercial club, not a football club. I spoke to Ferguson about this and in his last years, he also had problems with it."
Has anything actually changed?
"In the aftermath of Mourinho's exit, United sources stated clearly the appointment of a technical director was on the agenda, in addition to a new manager.
At present, nothing has changed from Van Gaal's time, with Woodward in overall charge and Matt Judge, who has a masters degree in economics and finance and 13 years' experience in investment banking, negotiating fees and contracts. United are adamant their priority is the football side and success on pitch is the objective for everyone at the club. Van Gaal does not agree.
"At the moment there is a structure with a scouting division and above that is someone at Woodward's right hand. The structure is not so bad but the right hand has to be a technical director with a football view, not somebody with a banker's role," Van Gaal says.
"Unfortunately, we are talking about a commercial club, not a football club. I spoke to Ferguson about this and in his last years, he also had problems with it."
He hasn't resigned. He said he was going to resign at the end of the year, which now seems like he'll stay on until the end of the season, and then become a "consultant".
He's going to feck up so bad by offering himself the highest wages in the club.
IF he stays out of footballing side of things, it ok. He bring a lot of money in.
It's a big IF though
It's a big IF though
A monkey could do that.
Our revenue has been stagnant since 2015. He's not even good at that. There's only so many noodle companies that aren't bothered about sponsoring losers.
When the European super league fiasco - the reason for his resignation - is a far distant memory.
I think that was his "super" plan.
Yep, we need to remember that we dominated the English football for two decades and are still the 3rd most popular club in the world. You don't have to advertise the club as the adult Disneyland to get those tractor sponsorships.
It's a little bit like wondering whether Trump would actually leave office as planned, I think Woodward might mount an aggressive coup and take over as manager himself on 31st December.
We do have to remember, he does own shares in the club. He wouldn't completely cut ties even if he left.
Makes sense to keep him on. With all of the relationships he’s built up in his time he’d be invaluable. He’s right on the cusp of getting Fabregas’ agent’s phone number, one of these months.
Let’s face it, he’s never going feck off!
These's always one who has to bring Trump into it.
Woodward might be incompetent with regards football matters, but his knowledge in the finance is definitely one not to turn down. The club has been ran in a shambolic way from football perspective, but we've managed to rake in stupid amount of money, sponsorship deals and we remain in the top 3 of richest clubs in the world.
So as long as he's consulting the club only on financial topics - I'm all for it.
To be fair he is in charge of one of the most marketable sports institutions in the world, which pretty much sells itself to its millions of fans. Taking money off more noodle sponsors isn't a hard task.
Just feck off to Disneyland already.
Between super cup and giving mediocre managers new contract are some other stupid shit he did to this club. It's all sackable offence any where but here at United, they're begging him to stay. Madness.
Between super cup and giving mediocre managers new contract are some other stupid shit he did to this club. It's all sackable offence any where but here at United, they're begging him to stay. Madness.
I used to be of the impression that he was good at the financial side of things, because of how much money the club brings in. However I've seen this mentioned a few times which has made me rethink that. In the time that Woody has been here, how have our revenues grown relative to the other top clubs? Does anyone know?
Growth, yes. Growth relative to other top clubs
At the turn of the millennium, there was such an enormous gulf between United and every other English club - football-wise, finance-wise, and in annual growth, the number of domestic and international supporters, sponsorship deals, brand value - basically everything.
We have fecked up big time in the last two decades - the Glazers, Woody, the last few years of SAF, managers, players.....
Growth, yes; growth relative to other top English sides, not much.
At the turn of the millennium, there was such an enormous gulf between United and every other English club - football-wise, finance-wise, and in annual growth, the number of domestic and international supporters, sponsorship deals, brand value - basically everything.
We have fecked up big time in the last two decades - the Glazers, Woody, the last few years of SAF, managers, players.....
You shouldn't be. He did well with 1 or 2 deals early on most likely thanks to most expecting us to bounce back, sadly that well seem to be running dry now. If you look at our pre covid financials we are stagnating in terms of commercial revenues for last 3 years , our match day revenue has been stagnant for nearly all his tenure as CEO thanks to complete neglect of OT. He's incompetence in terms of football matters is going to start costing the next guy off the pitch.
We were somewhat trailblazers on the economic growth side, fuelled by on-pitch success at such a pivotal time in football. It was inevitable that other Premier League clubs would catch up, and there’s just generally a lot more money sloshing around than there was 20 years ago.
That's a Glazer issue. They do not want to put in a single dollar of their own for anything. OT is lagging behind modern era facilities and will need an overhaul or an entire new structure in the coming years. This is probably when they will look to sell their entire holding or bog the club down with more debt.
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Woodward has been in charge of commercial side since 2007 (first as director of purely commercial operations, then in 2013 as a CEO). I decided to compare purely commercial revenue to other clubs using Deloitte Money league.
So here is the annual growth in commercial revenue from 2006/2007 to 2019/2020 for the clubs who were top-20 in both years:
Juve - 14%
Liverpool - 13%
Man Utd - 13%
Barcelona - 13%
Bayern - 12%
Spurs - 12%
Inter - 10%
Real Madrid - 10%
Arsenal - 10%
Chelsea - 9%
Schalke - 6%
Lyon - 2%
So the range for top clubs is basically 9-14% annual growth - Schalke and Lyon decreased their standing in the game a lot (Lyon was the dominant side in France, Schalke one of the top German sides) so not really comparable.
This list of course misses the ones which were top-20 in 2007 but performed badly after that (like Milan), but it also missed those who grew rapidly and broke into top-20 (PSG, City, Atlético, Dortmund etc).
In absolute numbers we were 4th in terms of commercial revenue in 2007 (behind Barca, Bayern and Real). In 2020 we are in the same 4th position behind the same clubs. Plus PSG and City are now 5th and 6th and close to us and growing rapidly - so with no success on the pitch I would say even our 4th position is under threat.
So in sum, on purely commercial side over Woodward tenure we just kept up with peers, nothing less but nothing more.
So here is the annual growth in commercial revenue from 2006/2007 to 2019/2020 for the clubs who were top-20 in both years:
Juve - 14%
Liverpool - 13%
Man Utd - 13%
Barcelona - 13%
Bayern - 12%
Spurs - 12%
Inter - 10%
Real Madrid - 10%
Arsenal - 10%
Chelsea - 9%
Schalke - 6%
Lyon - 2%
So the range for top clubs is basically 9-14% annual growth - Schalke and Lyon decreased their standing in the game a lot (Lyon was the dominant side in France, Schalke one of the top German sides) so not really comparable.
This list of course misses the ones which were top-20 in 2007 but performed badly after that (like Milan), but it also missed those who grew rapidly and broke into top-20 (PSG, City, Atlético, Dortmund etc).
In absolute numbers we were 4th in terms of commercial revenue in 2007 (behind Barca, Bayern and Real). In 2020 we are in the same 4th position behind the same clubs. Plus PSG and City are now 5th and 6th and close to us and growing rapidly - so with no success on the pitch I would say even our 4th position is under threat.
So in sum, on purely commercial side over Woodward tenure we just kept up with peers, nothing less but nothing more.
I own shares in Tesco, doesn’t mean I get a say in where they stack the beans
Or guided the club to joint second largest revenue growth in world football, depending on your take.Woodward has been in charge of commercial side since 2007 (first as director of purely commercial operations, then in 2013 as a CEO). I decided to compare purely commercial revenue to other clubs using Deloitte Money league.
So here is the annual growth in commercial revenue from 2006/2007 to 2019/2020 for the clubs who were top-20 in both years:
Juve - 14%
Liverpool - 13%
Man Utd - 13%
Barcelona - 13%
Bayern - 12%
Spurs - 12%
Inter - 10%
Real Madrid - 10%
Arsenal - 10%
Chelsea - 9%
Schalke - 6%
Lyon - 2%
So the range for top clubs is basically 9-14% annual growth - Schalke and Lyon decreased their standing in the game a lot (Lyon was the dominant side in France, Schalke one of the top German sides) so not really comparable.
This list of course misses the ones which were top-20 in 2007 but performed badly after that (like Milan), but it also missed those who grew rapidly and broke into top-20 (PSG, City, Atlético, Dortmund etc).
In absolute numbers we were 4th in terms of commercial revenue in 2007 (behind Barca, Bayern and Real). In 2020 we are in the same 4th position behind the same clubs. Plus PSG and City are now 5th and 6th and close to us and growing rapidly - so with no success on the pitch I would say even our 4th position is under threat.
So in sum, on purely commercial side over Woodward tenure we just kept up with peers, nothing less but nothing more.