Pray for VDS
Yeah, I've seen it. Bizarre.
But my question was to the substance of the tweet. So Woodward is leaving soon, and he doesn't want his last act to be sacking Ole. So far, fair enough. The manager's position is of too much importance to be a lame duck executive decision.
But then that's where I'm lost.
As far as I know, the new, incoming sporting executive is not an unknown, or outsider, is he? It's Arnold, no? Woodward's current right hand man? So why wouldn't they be able to coordinate between them?
Will likely go down as one of the worst figures in club history. I know it's harsh to judge based on Woodward, but I suspect his mate, Arnold, will be the exact same if he gets the job.This absolute snivelling cnut of a man is still managing to wreck the club even after handing in his resignation I see.
Imagine having so much self-importance that you think you need to hang around for 8 months after you resign to hand things over... Because you're so fecking amazing that the club couldn't bare to move on without you instantly.
Nobody in the history of our club has done more damage to the club then this baffoon... No one.
Pray for VDS
Well it’s been mentioned lots but until it happens I still can dreamWouod be a dream appointment but isn’t it another Glazer “yes man” that’s getting the job - Richard Arnold?
Did he feck. I don't count saying "I'm leaving (in a year)" as resigning. More like "I'll be spending the next 12 months looking for a new job during my working hours while the place goes to shit."At the end of the day Ed showed more dignity resigning than Solsjkaer, who is clinging to his job for his dear life.
I don't agree with everything you say but I generally consider you reasonable. I am surprised you think there's even a glimmer of a chance we hire someone who knows football.Pray for VDS
Surely a successful football team attract better financial returns?I don't agree with everything you say but I generally consider you reasonable. I am surprised you think there's even a glimmer of a chance we hire someone who knows football.
We are first and foremost a corporate entity making money. No way a football man will be allowed in at the top.
I don’t see why the 2 can’t be separated. The football side and the financial side.I don't agree with everything you say but I generally consider you reasonable. I am surprised you think there's even a glimmer of a chance we hire someone who knows football.
We are first and foremost a corporate entity making money. No way a football man will be allowed in at the top.
Arnold is expected to replace him as chief executive. Reports seem to suggest that he won't be taking the executive vice-chairman title though.But is it still not known who will succeed him? I've read it's likely to be Arnold, is that just media speculation?
Bit weird that such a massive personnel matter would be in the dark?
If I were Ed, I'd sack Ole tonight and leave the club on a high. I don't know if he has enough say in the United board to make such important decisions just weeks before his tenure ends.
He'd otherwise forever be regarded by supporters as one of the worst things to happen to modern-day, post-SAF United. Not that he would care, but nonetheless.
A man who sacked a manager 20 minutes after he’d lifted the FA cup is reportedly concerned about the impact sacking a manager who’s helped get us in some relegation form would have on the club.
He’s an absolute clown
Surely a successful football team attract better financial returns?
A football man can be in charge of footballing affairs and the money man can be the marketing and financial authority.
I don’t see why the 2 can’t be separated. The football side and the financial side.
A good football team would surely attract more investment and sponsors
but you’re right probably too logical
Yup but at least then he had actual option in hand ready to take the job. This time sacking Ole will force him to start actually start doing something in order to hire replacement and this is when problems begin.A man who sacked a manager 20 minutes after he’d lifted the FA cup is reportedly concerned about the impact sacking a manager who’s helped get us in some relegation form would have on the club.
He’s an absolute clown
Yeah it was said in the Athletic article that he's expected to leave most of the footballing matters to the football side. Murtough and Fletcher haven't even got going yet as directors because Woodward is still front and centre of everything. That's likely changing once Arnold steps in.I fully agree with everything here but like a lot of other corporates, decisions are not made based on logic.
The main conclusion from the recent events is that it's a highly political, you scratch my back, I'll scratch your back work place.
Having said all that, the silver lining from the recent shambles is that it might force change at a time when we're actually making changes. There was talk about Arnold not being in charge of football matters, so there might be a small window of opportunity to get things right once and for all.
I hope the press start narrowing in on the owners with the adequate ridicule.
But the chief executive is the one running the whole of the football club on a daily basis, isn't he?Arnold is expected to replace him as chief executive. Reports seem to suggest that he won't be taking the executive vice-chairman title though.
how is it fair enough? Putting his reputation before the clubs downfall, its comepletely fitting of his characterYeah, I've seen it. Bizarre.
But my question was to the substance of the tweet. So Woodward is leaving soon, and he doesn't want his last act to be sacking Ole. So far, fair enough. The manager's position is of too much importance to be a lame duck executive decision.
Grab the flares lads. There’s unfinished business at the pricks gaff
I hope the press start narrowing in on the owners with the adequate ridicule.
Well it’s been mentioned lots but until it happens I still can dream
It's a bit of a mess tbh. I get the impression that the Glazers really don't want Woodward to go. Arnold is apparently going to leave most of the footballing matters to the football side. Murtough and Fletcher will gain more power once Woodward leaves.But the chief executive is the one running the whole of the football club on a daily basis, isn't he?
So if it's Arnold, there's no reason why the impending transition should paralyse or confuse decision-making, as Neville seems to be claiming. These two are already working together, after all, with Arnold being Woodward's right-hand man.
Or are you suggesting there will be another figure brought in who then will be Arnold's boss somehow?
Also, the club appointed a DoF and technical director this year, so all those thinking a Rangnick appointment would somehow be feasible or realistic are wrong. Because even if the club decides to change the manager and his coaching team, they're surely not going to change all other people in leading roles with him?
Van der Sar IS the CEO of Ajax. Their DoF is Marc OvermarsCEO of the club and director of football (VDS role) totally different.
It's a decision heavily impacting a future he's no longer involved in. If anything the incoming sporting CEO should be making it together with Woodward.how is it fair enough? Putting his reputation before the clubs downfall, its comepletely fitting of his character
Van der Sar IS the CEO of Ajax. Their DoF is Marc Overmars
How is it different? Obviously United moves more money around than Ajax, so it arguably is a bigger job, but how is it "totally different"? Keep in mind he started his career in Ajax' board as their director of marketing, not in any position related to the actual football team.Yeah but CEO of AJAX is a million miles from CEO of United.
Totally different roles regardless of same letters.
That's the point, VDS could never be CEO of United. DOF yes.