mustaine
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I don't think anybody is going to miss him but he's obviously taking the fall here - he is not and has never been the true root of the problem.
I think this the route they will take because United under the Glazers will still need someone with a strong financial background to navigate these uncertain times. Now that we have a DOF in place I don't think we still need a football savvy CEO, even though one would be desirable, more than we need one with a strong corporate and financial background but who is accommodative enough to leave the DOF and Ole to run the football side.Promoting from within/another repackaging job with Richard Arnold the current Group Managing Director to replace incompetent Ed?
He's only leaving end of 2021 and not this season?
Absolute peak Woodward and the Glazers.
Yeah, but the original reports said he was planning to leave in the summer but brought forward the announcement due to the backlash and somehow the date he's leaving got pushed back to the end of the year?Most high level position like this, in and out of football, have a long notice period. Gives time for recrutment and transition.
I agree. There are more fools in the world than villains. Men out of their depth tend to devolve towards their worst instincts and here we have an accountant turned mid-level banker playing football guru for the past 10 years, to middling results at best. He was also, to be fair, a human shield for the Glazers and did that job well as far as I can tell.I was buzzing when I saw this come through yesterday but honestly dread who might come next, and am not sure if things are now going to get better but could in fact get worse without the "buffer" of Woodward between the Glazers and the day to day running of the club.
My perception of Woodward has always been of someone who is highly incompetent at running a football club rather than evil minded.
This could be completely deluded, but just going on face value of evidence in recent years - he's done the right thing in backing Ole through incredibly tough periods and things are looking brighter now, he's also enabled us to invest significantly in the squad even if 75% of the signings have been dog shit. People have already pointed out about his support of recognising the Munich disaster and he's also clearly bought into what we're doing at youth level, which has massively improved in recent years. Setting up Murtough and Fletcher as an added layer of direction for a sporting perspective was a positive move also.
Far, far from perfect - but would any of the above have happened if the Glazers were calling all the shots?
I think Woodward is an idiot where running a football club is concerned, who thought he knew far more about the sport than he did and was far too hands on in the running for too long, which translated into the club going backwards for a long time.
However, I also think he's been the Glazers' fall guy in this situation and the root cause of all the shit at the club is far from solved.
Sums up everything we knew, knows f*ck all about football (who'd drop a bomb like this before a game once the team is focused and preparing for a game?!), he's a knobhead and probably thinks Ole would hug him and celebrate at this news, as if it was something amazing.
Should've never been involved with Man United and I hope the only tie with the club he has once he's gone or now would be better, would be to help those scumbags sell the club.
Good riddance.
I was buzzing when I saw this come through yesterday but honestly dread who might come next, and am not sure if things are now going to get better but could in fact get worse without the "buffer" of Woodward between the Glazers and the day to day running of the club.
My perception of Woodward has always been of someone who is highly incompetent at running a football club rather than evil minded.
This could be completely deluded, but just going on face value of evidence in recent years - he's done the right thing in backing Ole through incredibly tough periods and things are looking brighter now, he's also enabled us to invest significantly in the squad even if 75% of the signings have been dog shit. People have already pointed out about his support of recognising the Munich disaster and he's also clearly bought into what we're doing at youth level, which has massively improved in recent years. Setting up Murtough and Fletcher as an added layer of direction for a sporting perspective was a positive move also.
Far, far from perfect - but would any of the above have happened if the Glazers were calling all the shots?
I think Woodward is an idiot where running a football club is concerned, who thought he knew far more about the sport than he did and was far too hands on in the running for too long, which translated into the club going backwards for a long time.
However, I also think he's been the Glazers' fall guy in this situation and the root cause of all the shit at the club is far from solved.
The man is unable to write something that doesn't demonstrate his idiocy. Clinging on Mourinho in 2021 is next level.
Very well put.I was buzzing when I saw this come through yesterday but honestly dread who might come next, and am not sure if things are now going to get better but could in fact get worse without the "buffer" of Woodward between the Glazers and the day to day running of the club.
My perception of Woodward has always been of someone who is highly incompetent at running a football club rather than evil minded.
This could be completely deluded, but just going on face value of evidence in recent years - he's done the right thing in backing Ole through incredibly tough periods and things are looking brighter now, he's also enabled us to invest significantly in the squad even if 75% of the signings have been dog shit. People have already pointed out about his support of recognising the Munich disaster and he's also clearly bought into what we're doing at youth level, which has massively improved in recent years. Setting up Murtough and Fletcher as an added layer of direction for a sporting perspective was a positive move also.
Far, far from perfect - but would any of the above have happened if the Glazers were calling all the shots?
I think Woodward is an idiot where running a football club is concerned, who thought he knew far more about the sport than he did and was far too hands on in the running for too long, which translated into the club going backwards for a long time.
However, I also think he's been the Glazers' fall guy in this situation and the root cause of all the shit at the club is far from solved.
Well said. I can't stand Woodward but he is just a fall guy here. Joel glazer was all giddy while announcing the super league but is no where to be seen now. No apology, no interaction with the fan, nothing.I was buzzing when I saw this come through yesterday but honestly dread who might come next, and am not sure if things are now going to get better but could in fact get worse without the "buffer" of Woodward between the Glazers and the day to day running of the club.
My perception of Woodward has always been of someone who is highly incompetent at running a football club rather than evil minded.
This could be completely deluded, but just going on face value of evidence in recent years - he's done the right thing in backing Ole through incredibly tough periods and things are looking brighter now, he's also enabled us to invest significantly in the squad even if 75% of the signings have been dog shit. People have already pointed out about his support of recognising the Munich disaster and he's also clearly bought into what we're doing at youth level, which has massively improved in recent years. Setting up Murtough and Fletcher as an added layer of direction for a sporting perspective was a positive move also.
Far, far from perfect - but would any of the above have happened if the Glazers were calling all the shots?
I think Woodward is an idiot where running a football club is concerned, who thought he knew far more about the sport than he did and was far too hands on in the running for too long, which translated into the club going backwards for a long time.
However, I also think he's been the Glazers' fall guy in this situation and the root cause of all the shit at the club is far from solved.
The first clue in the blatant lie was when it said he had friends.Oh yes, totally believable statements.
Oh yes, totally believable statements.
Either Woodward is slimy scum or he really is a some sort of bumbling idiot who doesn't learn anything about football in 8 years. 8 years.
I don't think he is thick, so it's definitely slimy scum.
The funny thing is , it is indeed the biggest mistake objectively , however there is no way he thinks so himself.True. He obviously has no friends and it's hard to believe he hasn't made multiple feck ups this big throughout his life.
Don’t need to write my own, I am in complete agreement.I was buzzing when I saw this come through yesterday but honestly dread who might come next, and am not sure if things are now going to get better but could in fact get worse without the "buffer" of Woodward between the Glazers and the day to day running of the club.
My perception of Woodward has always been of someone who is highly incompetent at running a football club rather than evil minded.
This could be completely deluded, but just going on face value of evidence in recent years - he's done the right thing in backing Ole through incredibly tough periods and things are looking brighter now, he's also enabled us to invest significantly in the squad even if 75% of the signings have been dog shit. People have already pointed out about his support of recognising the Munich disaster and he's also clearly bought into what we're doing at youth level, which has massively improved in recent years. Setting up Murtough and Fletcher as an added layer of direction for a sporting perspective was a positive move also.
Far, far from perfect - but would any of the above have happened if the Glazers were calling all the shots?
I think Woodward is an idiot where running a football club is concerned, who thought he knew far more about the sport than he did and was far too hands on in the running for too long, which translated into the club going backwards for a long time.
However, I also think he's been the Glazers' fall guy in this situation and the root cause of all the shit at the club is far from solved.
Spacegoat
He has been in Football since 2004, that's 17 years not 8.
He put Ole in a tough spot there. My biggest gripe is the secretiveness of this. How they were able to operate in a stealthlike manner. If the managers and players had known of this, rather than forced to accept it, with Perez delivering one of the worst introductions of all time, fans and players may have been more sympathetic to the idea. Trusting Perez to lead this was a massive mistake, that man didn't even hide his personal motives there. Personally, more than anyone else, he killed the project with that interview.Sums up everything we knew, knows f*ck all about football (who'd drop a bomb like this before a game once the team is focused and preparing for a game?!), he's a knobhead and probably thinks Ole would hug him and celebrate at this news, as if it was something amazing.
Should've never been involved with Man United and I hope the only tie with the club he has once he's gone or now would be better, would be to help those scumbags sell the club.
Good riddance.
Oh sorry I was talking about Murtough not knowing, I don't think Woodward told him as the plans to skip to the ESL were apparently last minute and driven by Joel Glazer.Good riddance indeed. But he must have known Ole would face questions about this post-match, so not telling him would have been even more of a disservice?
Summer now I thinkHe's only leaving end of 2021 and not this season?
Plus he's going to be 80 this year and was seriously ill a couple of years back, can we not give him a break and instead try to look forwards?Think this is a bad idea. We can find the right people without going back to Fergie.