Whatever that means...
Ed Woodward - Chairman of the European Club Association Marketing & Communications
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Whatever that means...
"Omg Man Utd r controling al ov football first gill at FA now this."
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This picture from the official website announcement.....
Good to see he's moved on from signing sponsors to getting himself a new appointment. Don't worry about the players we need signed ED!
Great news.
As we all know, a European Club Association marketing & communications working group will make all the difference on the pitch.
As we all know, a European Club Association marketing & communications working group will make all the difference on the pitch.
Maybe Ed will get clubs a sponsor for players so we don't have to pay a pound in transfer fees.
Imagine that, number 20, Robin van Persie brought to you by Coca Cola.
This picture from the official website announcement.....
Shaun Murphy's dad.
Imagine being appointed as something nobody here understands. What a cnut.
Seeing as he barely does his one job well enough, I really don't think now is a good time to take on another role.
Cracking shout.
Well one reason why we dont want anyone... He is really busy pr-ing his own ass.
So this Association, do they welcome Asian or African club, or is it 'exclusively' for European's??
Lol
Lol
Ah, the ever knowledgeable Internet United fan. Always in the loop with what people within the club do and whether they do their job properly or not.
You don't inside knowledge to know the club, and Woodward in particular didn't do their job last summer you smart arse.
He really has ambitions to be a bigger fish than Gill. Soon we'll sign sponsorship deals with European Union, Bilderberg Group and G14 because he would make extra money on Mars if he had to.
Ed Woodward, chairman of feckin everything.
Ed Woodward, chairman of feckin everything.
The guys here being totally unfair to him i think, just remember how many times Gill signed players for highly inflated prices or failed to sign somebody. That kind of job is always about ups and downs, just look at Perez at Real. He was credited with destroying the Real team at some point, when he fired Del Bosque and they had a bad period. Now he is a hero that helped club achieve La Decima.
As for his role, any worthwhile executive knows that this is nothing special. It's not a job, it's more of a non-executive chairing.
As for his role, any worthwhile executive knows that this is nothing special. It's not a job, it's more of a non-executive chairing.
You've no idea what happened in the summer, so quit trying to pretend you do.
Did Gill get this much shit when we failed to sign our top targets year after year? We all know Woodward gets flak because he's "Glazers man". He signed Mata in January with feck all fuss, and the usual suspects were out in force passing the credit onto Fergie, Gill, the tea lady, anybody but Woodward.
It's well publicized. Why do you feel the need to defend Woodward? It's baffling. Seems to me you love to play devils advocate even for a losing argument.
- The Herrera Deal, United refusing to spend 4 million extra to secure him, Herrera and Athletic both being left unaware of United's intentions till the last minute. United were due to deposit his buy out clause with the league but they never arrived. Lets not forget those 4 intermediates who went to the Liga HQ.
- The Fellaini signing, he had a 22 million buy out clause that expired in June and we left it run out and signed him in August for 27 million.
- Coentrao, another deal left too late, we didn't secure the loan deal in time.
- Fabregas, pathetic bids for a player of his caliber. Fabregas' camp played us for too long.
- Ozil, we were his club of choice, but we turned him down citing we had too many players in his position, fair enough, but we had to sign Mata in January regardless
- Thiago, another drawn out saga. We needed a central midfielder urgently, we let it draw out long enough for Munich and Guardiola to step in.
Why would you have wanted to sign Ozil? Would take Mata over him.
Moyes was to blame for last year. Garay, Strootman and Thiago, we should have signed all three. But Moyes decided to go for unrealistic targets like Bale and Fabregas.
Moyes was to blame for last year. Garay, Strootman and Thiago, we should have signed all three. But Moyes decided to go for unrealistic targets like Bale and Fabregas.
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The Chief Executive's job is to secure the signings, the manager decides on who to buy. Fellaini aside, Woodward failed to sign a single player and even that signing was a colossal feck up. Read this to see how much Woodward and the club fecked up the Herrera bid.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/03/ander-herrera-manchester-united
Is he still anything to do with United? We get thrice as many updates on Gill as we do on Anderson or Fabio. I joke I know he is
To be fair, given United's meteoric rise up the sponsorship league table, I imagine he's wanted all over the world if he had a big part in that.
What the ECA are going to be marketing though I will never know. Conspiracy superleague whispers
Edit - oh fuxk this is on Woodward. Who would want him
To be fair, given United's meteoric rise up the sponsorship league table, I imagine he's wanted all over the world if he had a big part in that.
What the ECA are going to be marketing though I will never know. Conspiracy superleague whispers
Edit - oh fuxk this is on Woodward. Who would want him
And you could argue why didn't Moyes identify Herrera earlier? It was always going to be a complex deal to sign a player from Bilbao.
Because Moyes was only in the job since June? It wasn't complex. All United had to do was pay his buy out clause to the league and sign off in time. Instead of paying a small bit over the odds for Herrera who has shone in La Liga this year we paid over the odds for Fellaini.
Moyes wanted Fellaini, but wanted Baines too so we fecked around with joint bids and only split it near the end. His words and his call.
He didn't want Thiago. His call.
He wanted Fabregas who didn't want to come. Hardly Woodwards fault that it didn't come off.
Coentrao, see Fellaini. Left too late because Moyes wanted Baines and only decided to split the deal up and leave Baines out near the deadline. When we couldn't get him we went for Coentrao. Also not Woodwards fault.
Ozil. Did Woodward turn down the option to sign him because he decided we had too many players in that position, or would that, AGAIN, be a football decision and therefore made by the football manager?
Herrera. We deny having anything to do with the men there. We enquired and didn't want to pay the release clause, amd as far as we were concerned that was the end of it for us. You quote the Guardian here, but when they say we're signing someone you reckon we aren't or aren't signing someone you think we are you'll be among the first to declare them unreliable and write it off as paper talk. Funny how the validity of sources change as the situation suits.
He gets far too much stick, and gets blamed for decisions that aren't and weren't his to make. (HE turned down Ozil? The Chief Executive did that, because HE decided we had too many players in that role? Not a football man, not the man running the team, picking the players etc, but a Chief Executive? Give me a fecking break).
Sid Lowe is probably the most reliable journalist there is. It's funny how you write off the Herrera story, which is pretty evidently true, Herrera himself said he knew the bid was there. Yet you buy the whole "we didn't want Thiago" story that's been branded around in the past few weeks. Bollocks. We wanted him. Woodward dicked around with him over a few million, likewise with Herrera and we didn't get either. Fabregas might've played us to better his role at Barca, but the fact remains, the offers we put in for him were embarrassing.
He looks like an older version of Sheldon from the big bang theory in that picture
You know this how? Thiago says we made no offer for him. Seems you take Herrera's word there was a bid for him but not Thiago's that there wasn't for him. Wonder why?
Also, what about Fellaini, Coentrao and Ozil? Are they not being acknowledged now, or are we just letting them lie there, undiscussed because that would be a climbdown and you admitting footballing decisions have feck all to do with a Chief Executive?
I thought the delay on Fellaini was Moyes claiming he could get him for less than his £23.5m release clause, which expired on 31st July but he couldn't and we ended up paying about £5m more much later in the window.
The fanzines covered the Thiago story. Moyes dithered over him because he wanted to scout him out more and was unsure if he was suited to the PL.
If only.
Too many people thinks real life negotiations are similar to football manager game, it's baffling really.
That shows you actually don't understand what you are talking about. Try to read a real professional, like lawyers, who are aware about fine details and certain aspects. Bilbao refused to sell him at all, the release clause that was cited in media is not a fee from one club to another. That's a misconception. Legally it's a severance payment for unilateral contact termination from player. So United could not have done the deal. The only way the deal could have gone through if United were ready to pay around 45m pound for the player, because of the tax implications. Or if he was target number one and United were ready to spent his release clause plus 2-3 millions in commissions and a lot of time.
Exactly.
It took Bayern all summer to sign Martinez even though they wanted to pay the release clause. It was due to other legal and tax issues that it took so long.
So I don't know how you expect Woodward to complete a transfer like that in a few days.
And not only that as i've read after all this Ander stuff, the Bayern were actually extremely lucky, they used a road that's been closed. Bilbao took it as far as they declined to accept the payment. True story, really. The intermediaries employed by Munich were actually forced to call regional ministry of finance in Spain and inform them that the club who had a debt in the tune of 10 mil with local tax authorities were declining a 35 mil paycheck.
The guys are ruthless.It's only after the local government pressed them hard, they accepted. But they learned their lesson and they now don't have any outstanding debt with tax authorities, again i remember reading an article about spanish debt and Bilbao is one of few clubs that don't have it.
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And not only that as i've read after all this Ander stuff, the Bayern were actually extremely lucky, they used a road that's been closed. Bilbao took it as far as they declined to accept the payment. True story, really. The intermediaries employed by Munich were actually forced to call regional ministry of finance in Spain and inform them that the club who had a dept in the tune of 10 mil with local tax authorities were declining a 35 mil paycheck.
It's only after the local government pressed them hard, they accepted. But they learned their lesson and they now don't have any outstanding dept with tax authorities, again i remember reading an article about spanish dept and Bilbao is one of few clubs that don't have it.
I didn't know that Bayern pulled that stunt. A dirty trick. Dirty, but clever.
The reasoning was that by bidding for both Fellaini and Baines together, the overall package for the two would be lower than buying them individually. Furthermore, by triggering Fellaini's release clause, that would have seen Everton with £23 million in the bank, essentially. Therefore, they would be less inclined to sell Baines due to the money they'd already pocketed. By bidding jointly, it would stop them from pulling the plug on the Baines deal, the one I think Moyes wanted most. In theory, perhaps a tidy idea, but not in reality.
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WHAT THE F*CK!! Mate, this is horrendously libelous. I'd have to agree with Feeky and err on the side of caution and delete this.
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