Ah. At long last. Thank you kindly. At least we both made time to speak our minds and consider the other side (I promise I did , albeit for only a second ) even if it was fruitless.
Now onto the Ligt thread.
Ed Woodward 2019 - Until all Arctic ice melts edition
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Ah. At long last. Thank you kindly. At least we both made time to speak our minds and consider the other side (I promise I did , albeit for only a second ) even if it was fruitless.
Now onto the Ligt thread.
Such intelligent and insightful feedback.
Woodwork squeaks... and out some the Woody Fans!!
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Agree with your main POV, though being pedantic, there are some errors there.
- RVP was signed under Gill.
- Mata was not a British transfer record. Torres cost 50m a few years before him, Mata was 37.5m. We broke United's record though when we signed him.
- Shaw was a world transfer record for a teenager, but Di Maria was not a world transfer record (Ronaldo and Bale were much more expensive to name a couple). ADM was British transfer record.
- Correct about Martial.
- Correct about Pogba.
- Correct about Lukaku (whom in addition was the most expensive striker ever).
- Correct about Sanchez.
The main problem I have with Woodward is the total lack of long term planning, and as CEO (more precisely vice-executive chairman), he is responsible for almost everything in the club, and so far we have been a failure under him. Criticizing him for not spending money is absurd though, considering that only City, PSG and Barca have outspent us (wages + net transfer) since he is in this post (and all three clubs have more money than us).
Adult Disneyland.. Eff you moron.
I hate him.
Just knew Liverpool winning the champions league would somehow be Ed's fault
It definitely amplifies his shortcomings. We could've had Klopp but instead got what we have.
I wonder if we'd have given him the time he got at Liverpool? A few years of finishing outside the top 4 and winning nothing, Ed wouldn't have liked that.
Then again that's what's happening now anyway and barely anything seems to be done about it.
Then again that's what's happening now anyway and barely anything seems to be done about it.
You know after such season with our 2 most hated rivals dominating England and Europe everyone in the club, players, board and manager should be moving heaven and earth to make a comeback next season but I doubt anyone of them care that much.
No manager can work under this shitshow so it’s irrelevant. As if Klopp would be doing with us what he’s doing with Liverpool.
Klopp would've done better than the rest we've had since Fergie.
Look higher than Woodward, it starts with the Glazers for fecks sake
Easily. Shite players would still work hard and play well under him. He'd probably even make Lingard and Jones look competent.
Yep. Its all about the quality of the manager in the end. Fergie made the likes of Jones, Smalling, Fletcher, O'Shea work. Its what the great ones do.
30 days till pre season and not one player signed.
At least he won't be dumb enough to bring matic and fred than someone like fabinho.
Can't do anything if he was not interested in managing us.
We can do things that other clubs can only dream of.
Oh and "calm down, it's only June"
That's the point. Why are top managers and top players not interested to come here? Why do we keep watching when other clubs and managers steal top players under our noses?
I think honestly that if next year we are out of the top 4 and no progress, he will have to leave his position. He has no one to blame and the fans won't turn on Solskjear and him hiring a United legend will actually come back to bite him.
His 6-7 year experiment to see if he is capable to do the job would have wasted everyone's time.
His 6-7 year experiment to see if he is capable to do the job would have wasted everyone's time.
Hard to say, if the working conditions aren’t right then it can unravel the whole lot. If he was feeling his job was being impeded it wouldn’t take long for things to go bad. We make football decisions based on commercial potential, big signings are based on branding, their ability to sell Rolex watches, their social media reach, all that shit. It all has an effect. The way this club is run as a commercial machine is a disaster in slow motion and it’s coincided with Liverpool’s return to prominence. Dark days ahead I’m afraid.
I love that one.
The likes of Klopp and Poch are interested in coaching. Coaching is like third on the list of things United want from their manager.
1. Transfers
2. Youth crap
3. Actually coaching
It's not a club set up to support the modern great coaches.
Edit : willing to stay for a lifetime as one before coaching too
Sort it out you fecking idiot.
Working conditions are also influenced by positivity and success. When the manager is positive, the team are playing quality attacking football, the fans see the club progressing up the table and deeper into major cup tournaments, that has a compounding effect. Conversely, when the manager serves up tumescent defensive football, we continue to stagnate at the periphery of the top 4, and struggle in cup comps, then that too has a compounding effect. The Woodward era obsession with commercialization isn't mutually exclusive from being successful. Ed (and the board) have simply made the wrong decisions time after time, which has led us to where we are now.
I think he got one last chance to get the manager appointment right with Ole. But based on the last few games towards the end of the season, this appointment could end up worse than Moyes appointment.
Completely hell bent on screwing Fergie and clubs legacy.
Transfers? Couldn't count more than one or two players deemed as success since Fergie retired.
I know it’s a hard night for some of us but don’t delude yourselves into thinking this chump is going to put anything right.
He’s picking up £4 million a season (god knows what shares he’s picked up along the way) while the club goes to shit and our rivals are killing us. What motivation has he got to change things?
Made us watch our rivals win trophies while we continued to descend into mediocrity. This was a very winnable CL this season for any half-decent team considering Real, Barca and Bayern were all not as strong as they used to be. Despise this useless cnut.
This idiot better sign some players sharpish or the knives will be out very soon.
Goofy of Football. Fit right in his Disneyland for adults theme.
All fell apart when the news of Herrera leaving came out. Team's mentality was like they don't care anymore.
Yup. Probably the worst part of this win is knowing Ed's Disneyland pitch is why Klopp chose not to join us.
Even Mane though Liverpool was a better move, I think we are going to have to get used to this for a while sadly
I'm guessing it was a similar story of how the club approached him. Probably came off as a merecenary search versus how our rivals would have sold it
Herrera missed personal touch, de gea leaving soon it seems. Huge job for ole, phelan and Ed to get this mess together. But all in all top down environment at the club isn't what it should be. It's probably functions as a bureaucratic office now.
Van Gaal identified him as one of his preferred signings, knobward probably blew it