Trouble is, we've got Larry and Fergie is committed to him so I can't see us spending anything more on defenders, other than perhaps for a replacement for Irwin...which certainly wouldn't cost anything near as much as Duff.
Duff rumours resurface
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Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Trouble is, we've got Larry and Fergie is committed to him so I can't see us spending anything more on defenders, other than perhaps for a replacement for Irwin...which certainly wouldn't cost anything near as much as Duff.</strong><hr></blockquote>
which sums up that a fullback is needed
Originally posted by Tomo:
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which sums up that a fullback is needed
I think we need a striker as much as we need a full back. It's a 50-50 thing really...
its not taking the piss, if you believe Rio is worth 30 mil then without doubt Dufferis worth at least 20 mil,he is going to be a huge star,a world star.If we dont sign him now I gurentee we will regret it badly
Originally posted by Amir:
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I think we need a striker as much as we need a full back. It's a 50-50 thing really...</strong><hr></blockquote>
And i think Diego will be top class given time
Originally posted by corelive:
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And i think Diego will be top class given time</strong><hr></blockquote>
And you need a fourth, a good fourth. Isn't that clear to everyone? We needed all four we had to win the treble in 99 and we need all four again with the Champions League extended now.
We are all saying full back, but Silvestre and Phil can do the left, Phil, Gary and Wes the right. Like I said, we probably need both striker and full back, but it's a 50-50 thing and hopefully both will have been taken care of.
Souness is floating figures in excess of 30m. At least that way we know he'll stay at Blackburn and not go to lfc.
So Duff, who played 4 games in the WC against Saudi, Cameroon, Germany and Spain (the latter both played poorly against Ireland) is now in the 20m bracket? Not in my book he's not, he's not even half way to being a sensation. He'll be a good back up to Giggs and Beckham if he comes but no more for a few years. After that he'd need to be quite special for 3 or 4 years to justify a 20m outlay. He came onto the scene two or three years ago at Blackburn and played well in a few games but then what? He's still at Blackburn and that says a lot. I think his price is more because of the lack of wingers about rather than his quality. Fair enough that's the market talking, but I think somewhere there's better for less.
Such as who ?
As wingers go I'd have Lopez for 10m before Duff - he could be he fourth striker too. I'd also have Bode for free for a couple of years and wait and see who else might materialise. Vassel looks good for about 8m I'd say. Van der Meyde of Ajax has been touted by a few on here including you if I'm not mistaken. Where does Van Der Vaert play? Is he a winger? There's more out there than just Duff. Where's Kily Gonzalez? Did he stay at Valencia? 20m for Duff would make me think we're really having to pay massively over the odds because we are who we are, not because the player is all that. Don't get me wrong, he's a good little player but he's not 20m good.
Van Der Meyde would be a good back up for Becks. He'd cost about 4m imo. Van Der Vaart is a CM.
Look, Duff is a lot more than a "good little player"He is an awesome talent,the best dribbler in world football today and he is worth at least 20 mil in todays ridiculous transfer market.I am sure that Fergie will sign him,positive.It will be around 15-17 mill,with Yorkie,and Fergie will do his business soon.Duff is a Utd player if I have ever seen one,and we will all live to regret it if he isnt signed for Manchester United
We could always throw in Djordic or Fortune with Yorke plus the money.
Well that's told me hasn't it? Or would have if I agreed with you. Your opinion versus mine - we disagree let's leave it at that. Besides, I don't think we'll be signing anyone else unless Mickey's decided he's off or Ferguson shows him the door. We've already spent 15m of this years 20 or 30 whatever it was profit. Dividends need to be paid etc etc. I think Rio was the one and only signing.
Cheers Neil
Dans, Alex has said repeatedly signings plural, mentioned 3 targets, do you really think it'll be just the one signing?
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>Dans, Alex has said repeatedly signings plural, mentioned 3 targets, do you really think it'll be just the one signing?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes I do. It was also said that Ferguson has landed the one player he wanted this summer. Do you thnk they originally expected to pay up to 33m for Rio? Over one year or two it doesn't matter that's a lot of wonga.
The only chance of more signings will be, I believe, if we offload quite a few. So who might they be?
Barthez - AEBM says so, so he probably won't be going anywhere
Silvestre - Raoul reckons he's staying put
Yorke - 4m - that'll buy us Duff's right bollock at today's prices
Fortune - have you heard of anybody expressing an interest in him?
I reckon that's it.
Originally posted by Dans:
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Yes I do. It was also said that Ferguson has landed the one player he wanted this summer. Do you thnk they originally expected to pay up to 33m for Rio? Over one year or two it doesn't matter that's a lot of wonga.
The only chance of more signings will be, I believe, if we offload quite a few. So who might they be?
Barthez - AEBM says so, so he probably won't be going anywhere
Silvestre - Raoul reckons he's staying put
Yorke - 4m - that'll buy us Duff's right bollock at today's prices
Fortune - have you heard of anybody expressing an interest in him?
I reckon that's it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Fortune was linked with a move to a Japanese club a few weeks ago...somewhere in the 4m range I think.
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>Well that's told me hasn't it? Or would have if I agreed with you. Your opinion versus mine - we disagree let's leave it at that. Besides, I don't think we'll be signing anyone else unless Mickey's decided he's off or Ferguson shows him the door. We've already spent 15m of this years 20 or 30 whatever it was profit. Dividends need to be paid etc etc. I think Rio was the one and only signing.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Such a pessimist!
Utd's half year profits were announced by the BBC a while back as £30 million. It is probable that they exceded £50 million for the full year. In addition to that figure there is £23 million of the first instalment of the £300 million Nike deal to add. That means Utd have a conservative profit margin of around £73 million this season. The Rio deal requires a £15 million payment this season and £14 million next.
Utd will not be just signing Rio this season. Duff is a target and a n other. Cheer up, Dans!
Rio, Duff, and a young LB would be a perfect for this year. And then next year a replacement for Larry and a striker.
we'll defo need another foward if Yorke's sold.
who knows..we may still get Ronnie
who knows..we may still get Ronnie
Ronny would be too expensive. Gudjhonsen would probably be cheaper, though I doubt Chelsea would sell him to us for a reasonable price after what Leeds extorted out of us for Rio.
That would've worked as well, but I think there was alot of pressure for us to sign a big name defender like Rio after not winning any trophies last year.
I think it might be:
OUT
Barthez 5m
Silvestre 8m
Yorke 4m
Veron 30m
TOTAL 47m
IN
Rio for 14.9m this year
Duff for 17m
Sorin 7m
Lopez 15m
TOTAL 54m
DIFF 7m
You can see from the above that there is plenty of room to manouevre.
OUT
Barthez 5m
Silvestre 8m
Yorke 4m
Veron 30m
TOTAL 47m
IN
Rio for 14.9m this year
Duff for 17m
Sorin 7m
Lopez 15m
TOTAL 54m
DIFF 7m
You can see from the above that there is plenty of room to manouevre.
Teamtalk Article...
Blackburn have reiterated only an "absolutely ridiculous offer" will prise Damien Duff away, citing Rio Ferdinand's £30m fee as an example.
Republic of Ireland ace Duff has been the subject of mounting speculation regarding his future, with Liverpool reportedly set to offer £15m for his services.
Duff flew out with the rest of the Rovers squad for their pre-season trip to Austria on Monday, despite reports suggesting he would stay at home in an attempt to secure a move to one of the Premiership's elite clubs.
Rovers manager Graeme Souness has revealed that Rovers have received two enquiries into Duff's availability - believed to be from Liverpool and Manchester United - but insists no offers have been made and warned any interested parties that they would have to break the bank to tempt Rovers to sell.
Souness feels that Duff should be valued in the same bracket as Ferdinand, who will complete a £30m move from Leeds to Manchester United on Monday.
"The fact is that unless we receive an absolutely ridiculous offer, Damien will be playing his football with us at Blackburn next season and the season after. Hopefully, he will be signing a new contract soon," Souness told Sky Sports.
"I don't blame people making enquiries for some of our players because we have some very good players at the club but it's going to take £20m plus (to buy Duff). If Rio is worth that sort of money, Damien's the same age and forwards who score and create goals usually go for more than defenders, so perhaps he's worth more than £30m."
Blackburn have reiterated only an "absolutely ridiculous offer" will prise Damien Duff away, citing Rio Ferdinand's £30m fee as an example.
Republic of Ireland ace Duff has been the subject of mounting speculation regarding his future, with Liverpool reportedly set to offer £15m for his services.
Duff flew out with the rest of the Rovers squad for their pre-season trip to Austria on Monday, despite reports suggesting he would stay at home in an attempt to secure a move to one of the Premiership's elite clubs.
Rovers manager Graeme Souness has revealed that Rovers have received two enquiries into Duff's availability - believed to be from Liverpool and Manchester United - but insists no offers have been made and warned any interested parties that they would have to break the bank to tempt Rovers to sell.
Souness feels that Duff should be valued in the same bracket as Ferdinand, who will complete a £30m move from Leeds to Manchester United on Monday.
"The fact is that unless we receive an absolutely ridiculous offer, Damien will be playing his football with us at Blackburn next season and the season after. Hopefully, he will be signing a new contract soon," Souness told Sky Sports.
"I don't blame people making enquiries for some of our players because we have some very good players at the club but it's going to take £20m plus (to buy Duff). If Rio is worth that sort of money, Damien's the same age and forwards who score and create goals usually go for more than defenders, so perhaps he's worth more than £30m."
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Did you know that he's having a tennis court built at his home in italy? </strong><hr></blockquote>
You want to stand up for him but whenever you feel you are winning the battle and he is staying he does something stupid like that. He certainly doesn't help the case FOR him, does he? FFS
Originally posted by gulli_G:
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where exactly is our w class keeper onna come from?????? in todays market</strong><hr></blockquote>
Neil didn't mention no keepers. I think he intends to give Carroll a run for his money.
can't rich players have houses in other parts of the world for there hols.
beckham's got a mansion in london, does that mean he's signing for arsenal ffs!!!!!!
beckham's got a mansion in london, does that mean he's signing for arsenal ffs!!!!!!