Donald Trump - GUILTY!
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(Snags the image of Ivanka lapdancing daddy for a future NFT.)
The Presidential pardon is crazy. The possibility of foul play is so immense that it shouldn't exist to begin with.
Trump Calls for the Jan. 6 Committee to Investigate Mike Pence
Statement:
Desperate man.
Statement:
Desperate man.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-masked-singer_n_61fb2375e4b0c7df97462def?d_id=3121470
Rudy Giuliani Revealed As Masked Singer Contestant: Reports
Horrified judges Ken Jeong and Robin Thicke reportedly walked off in protest.
Wait...what?
Rudy Giuliani Revealed As Masked Singer Contestant: Reports
Horrified judges Ken Jeong and Robin Thicke reportedly walked off in protest.
Wait...what?
It’s a trinity: the queen mother of the antivax movement, a seditious piece of shit, and fox.
I'm sure I remember a time when this would have been an Onion article.. the world is so fecked..
Looking forward to Trump's word salad retort.
It’s crazy. It seems that every trial plays out in the media as well as in court. What a country!
The best people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/us/politics/erik-prince-spy-operation-trump-democrats.html
Erik Prince Helped Raise Money for Conservative Spy Venture
New details reveal the ambitions of an operation intended to infiltrate opponents of Donald Trump, including moderate Republicans as well as progressives and Democrats.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/us/politics/erik-prince-spy-operation-trump-democrats.html
Erik Prince Helped Raise Money for Conservative Spy Venture
New details reveal the ambitions of an operation intended to infiltrate opponents of Donald Trump, including moderate Republicans as well as progressives and Democrats.
WASHINGTON — During the summer of 2018, as Richard Seddon, a former British spy, was trying to launch a new venture to use undercover agents to infiltrate progressive groups, Democratic campaigns and other opponents of President Donald J. Trump, he turned for help to a longtime friend and former colleague: Erik Prince, the private military contractor.
Mr. Prince took on the role of celebrity pitchman, according to interviews and documents, raising money for Mr. Seddon’s spying operation, which was aimed at gathering dirt that could discredit politicians and activists in several states. After Mr. Prince and Mr. Seddon met in August 2018 with Susan Gore, a Wyoming heiress to the Gore-Tex fortune, Ms. Gore became the project’s main benefactor.
Mr. Prince’s role in the effort, which has not been previously disclosed, sheds further light on how a group of ultraconservative Republicans employed spycraft to try to manipulate the American political landscape. Mr. Prince — a former C.I.A. contractor who is best known as the founder of the private military firm Blackwater and whose sister, Betsy DeVos, was Mr. Trump’s education secretary — has drawn scrutiny over the years for Blackwater’s record of violence around the world and his subsequent ventures training and arming foreign forces.
His willingness to support Mr. Seddon’s operation is fresh evidence of his engagement in political espionage projects at home during a period when he was an informal adviser to Trump administration officials.
Mr. Seddon’s recruitment of Mr. Prince to help him secure funding is just one of the new details about Mr. Seddon’s operation revealed in documents obtained by The Times and interviews with people familiar with his plans. They provide additional insight into the ambition of the operation to use undercover operatives to target Republicans seen as insufficiently conservative, as well as to, as one document describes it, “research, penetrate and infiltrate the radical left networks.”
The Times previously reported that, in 2016 and 2017, Mr. Prince recruited Mr. Seddon to join the conservative group Project Veritas to teach espionage skills to its operatives and manage its undercover operations. Mr. Prince also allowed Project Veritas to use his family’s Wyoming ranch for training. Mr. Seddon launched his privately funded spying effort after leaving Project Veritas in 2018.
It is unclear how many potential donors Mr. Prince might have approached for money for Mr. Seddon’s venture besides Ms. Gore. Separately, Ms. Gore unsuccessfully tried to raise money for the project from Foster Friess, a billionaire Wyoming businessman, during a January 2019 meeting, three people said.
During the 2018 meeting with Ms. Gore, according to one person familiar with it, Mr. Prince and Mr. Seddon said the goal of the private spying operation was to gather dirt both on Democrats and “RINOs” — slang in conservative circles for “Republicans in name only.” The plan was to begin in Wyoming, they said, and expand operations from there.
Over two years, Mr. Seddon’s undercover operatives also developed networks in Colorado and Arizona, and made thousands of dollars in campaign donations posing as Democrats, both to the Democratic National Committee and individual campaigns. Funneling money surreptitiously to campaigns through other donors — known as straw man donations — would violate federal campaign finance laws.
Mr. Prince is separately under investigation by the Justice Department on unrelated matters, according to people familiar with the case. The scope of that investigation is unclear.
Mr. Prince declined to comment. Mr. Seddon and Ms. Gore did not respond to messages.
The documents give new details about efforts to manipulate the politics of Wyoming. While the state is currently solidly Republican, Mr. Seddon and Ms. Gore believed it was in danger of turning toward the Democrats, as Colorado has.
One target in particular was Gov. Mark Gordon, who was viewed as a RINO in some Wyoming conservative circles.
After Mr. Gordon won a close Republican primary battle against Mr. Friess, the billionaire, in August 2018, Mr. Friess blamed his loss on Democrats switching parties on Election Day to vote for Mr. Gordon.
“It seems like the Democrats have figured out this party switch deal to their advantage,” Mr. Friess wrote in an email obtained by Wyofile, a political news site in Wyoming. He added, “With Trump getting 70 percent of the vote, it shows how the Democrats have been able to control our elections with putting on a Republican coat.”
Mr. Gordon took office in January 2019. A document that month said that Mr. Seddon’s operatives had “identified three potential sources in the new governor’s administration and have begun accelerated cultivations with a view to early recruitment.”
Later in January, the operatives wrote that they had “successfully recruited another source with a role in the new governor’s administration,” adding that the “source has agreed to provide insights, help expose corruption and assist with eventual placement of undercovers.”
According to the documents, Mr. Seddon’s operatives also aimed to dig up information on Steve Harshman, the Republican speaker of the House in Wyoming at the time, who was also seen by some conservatives as not sufficiently supportive of Mr. Trump. One February 2019 report said that a “new undercover will be joining the team” and tasked with targeting Mr. Harshman.
Months later, in June 2019, a report said “we are expecting a big haul, including new lines of intelligence on the Republican side of the house.”
The documents also show that, beyond Ms. Gore, other prominent Republicans in Wyoming were involved in Mr. Seddon’s spying operation.
One of the documents indicates that Marti Halverson, a former Wyoming state lawmaker, provided a list of people for the operatives to target. The list included John Cox, then the director of the Wyoming Department of Workforce Services, and Scott Talbott, then the director of the Wyoming Game and Fish Department. The document is dated December 2018 and said that Mr. Talbott was “another of the names of corrupt individuals from Marti.”
Reached by phone, Ms. Halverson said: “Frankly, I have nothing to say on the subject.” She then hung up.
Mr. Seddon used other former Project Veritas employees to help with the Wyoming operation, including James Artherton, a British operative code-named “kimchi” who was involved in a Project Veritas plan targeting an editor for The New York Times in London in 2017.
One of the undercover operatives also got a job working for a consortium of wealthy liberal donors — the Wyoming Investor Network — which had made a strategic decision to support Republican moderate candidates over those more closely aligned with Mr. Trump’s agenda, the documents say. The job put her in a position to gain valuable information about which Republican candidates the group was supporting with independent advertising.
Mr. Prince has previously been involved in trying to find dirt on Democratic politicians. In 2016, Republican operatives believed they had obtained deleted Hillary Clinton emails from the dark web, and sought Mr. Prince’s assistance to authenticate them, an episode investigated by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel in the Trump-era Russia inquiry.
The special counsel’s report said that Mr. Prince “provided funding to hire a tech adviser to ascertain the authenticity of the emails. According to Prince, the tech adviser determined that the emails were not authentic.”
Later that year, Mr. Prince turned to Mr. Seddon to help train the Project Veritas operatives. The two men had known each other since Mr. Prince’s days running Blackwater, and shared an affinity for guns and the American West. Mr. Seddon owns a cabin that he keeps stocked with guns, food and other supplies as preparation for a cataclysmic event in the United States.
During a meeting in a Las Vegas suburb last April of employees of Ms. Gore’s organization, the Wyoming Liberty Group, Mr. Seddon pitched a proposal to build a website where other so-called preppers could buy their own supplies and communicate with each other in the event of what he called a “Black Swan” moment — a major terrorist attack, another pandemic or a civil war.
Ms. Gore ended up rejecting the proposal because it was too expensive — people with knowledge of the plan said it would start in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Mr. Prince took on the role of celebrity pitchman, according to interviews and documents, raising money for Mr. Seddon’s spying operation, which was aimed at gathering dirt that could discredit politicians and activists in several states. After Mr. Prince and Mr. Seddon met in August 2018 with Susan Gore, a Wyoming heiress to the Gore-Tex fortune, Ms. Gore became the project’s main benefactor.
Mr. Prince’s role in the effort, which has not been previously disclosed, sheds further light on how a group of ultraconservative Republicans employed spycraft to try to manipulate the American political landscape. Mr. Prince — a former C.I.A. contractor who is best known as the founder of the private military firm Blackwater and whose sister, Betsy DeVos, was Mr. Trump’s education secretary — has drawn scrutiny over the years for Blackwater’s record of violence around the world and his subsequent ventures training and arming foreign forces.
His willingness to support Mr. Seddon’s operation is fresh evidence of his engagement in political espionage projects at home during a period when he was an informal adviser to Trump administration officials.
Mr. Seddon’s recruitment of Mr. Prince to help him secure funding is just one of the new details about Mr. Seddon’s operation revealed in documents obtained by The Times and interviews with people familiar with his plans. They provide additional insight into the ambition of the operation to use undercover operatives to target Republicans seen as insufficiently conservative, as well as to, as one document describes it, “research, penetrate and infiltrate the radical left networks.”
The Times previously reported that, in 2016 and 2017, Mr. Prince recruited Mr. Seddon to join the conservative group Project Veritas to teach espionage skills to its operatives and manage its undercover operations. Mr. Prince also allowed Project Veritas to use his family’s Wyoming ranch for training. Mr. Seddon launched his privately funded spying effort after leaving Project Veritas in 2018.
It is unclear how many potential donors Mr. Prince might have approached for money for Mr. Seddon’s venture besides Ms. Gore. Separately, Ms. Gore unsuccessfully tried to raise money for the project from Foster Friess, a billionaire Wyoming businessman, during a January 2019 meeting, three people said.
During the 2018 meeting with Ms. Gore, according to one person familiar with it, Mr. Prince and Mr. Seddon said the goal of the private spying operation was to gather dirt both on Democrats and “RINOs” — slang in conservative circles for “Republicans in name only.” The plan was to begin in Wyoming, they said, and expand operations from there.
Over two years, Mr. Seddon’s undercover operatives also developed networks in Colorado and Arizona, and made thousands of dollars in campaign donations posing as Democrats, both to the Democratic National Committee and individual campaigns. Funneling money surreptitiously to campaigns through other donors — known as straw man donations — would violate federal campaign finance laws.
Mr. Prince is separately under investigation by the Justice Department on unrelated matters, according to people familiar with the case. The scope of that investigation is unclear.
Mr. Prince declined to comment. Mr. Seddon and Ms. Gore did not respond to messages.
The documents give new details about efforts to manipulate the politics of Wyoming. While the state is currently solidly Republican, Mr. Seddon and Ms. Gore believed it was in danger of turning toward the Democrats, as Colorado has.
One target in particular was Gov. Mark Gordon, who was viewed as a RINO in some Wyoming conservative circles.
After Mr. Gordon won a close Republican primary battle against Mr. Friess, the billionaire, in August 2018, Mr. Friess blamed his loss on Democrats switching parties on Election Day to vote for Mr. Gordon.
“It seems like the Democrats have figured out this party switch deal to their advantage,” Mr. Friess wrote in an email obtained by Wyofile, a political news site in Wyoming. He added, “With Trump getting 70 percent of the vote, it shows how the Democrats have been able to control our elections with putting on a Republican coat.”
Mr. Gordon took office in January 2019. A document that month said that Mr. Seddon’s operatives had “identified three potential sources in the new governor’s administration and have begun accelerated cultivations with a view to early recruitment.”
Later in January, the operatives wrote that they had “successfully recruited another source with a role in the new governor’s administration,” adding that the “source has agreed to provide insights, help expose corruption and assist with eventual placement of undercovers.”
According to the documents, Mr. Seddon’s operatives also aimed to dig up information on Steve Harshman, the Republican speaker of the House in Wyoming at the time, who was also seen by some conservatives as not sufficiently supportive of Mr. Trump. One February 2019 report said that a “new undercover will be joining the team” and tasked with targeting Mr. Harshman.
Months later, in June 2019, a report said “we are expecting a big haul, including new lines of intelligence on the Republican side of the house.”
The documents also show that, beyond Ms. Gore, other prominent Republicans in Wyoming were involved in Mr. Seddon’s spying operation.
One of the documents indicates that Marti Halverson, a former Wyoming state lawmaker, provided a list of people for the operatives to target. The list included John Cox, then the director of the Wyoming Department of Workforce Services, and Scott Talbott, then the director of the Wyoming Game and Fish Department. The document is dated December 2018 and said that Mr. Talbott was “another of the names of corrupt individuals from Marti.”
Reached by phone, Ms. Halverson said: “Frankly, I have nothing to say on the subject.” She then hung up.
Mr. Seddon used other former Project Veritas employees to help with the Wyoming operation, including James Artherton, a British operative code-named “kimchi” who was involved in a Project Veritas plan targeting an editor for The New York Times in London in 2017.
One of the undercover operatives also got a job working for a consortium of wealthy liberal donors — the Wyoming Investor Network — which had made a strategic decision to support Republican moderate candidates over those more closely aligned with Mr. Trump’s agenda, the documents say. The job put her in a position to gain valuable information about which Republican candidates the group was supporting with independent advertising.
Mr. Prince has previously been involved in trying to find dirt on Democratic politicians. In 2016, Republican operatives believed they had obtained deleted Hillary Clinton emails from the dark web, and sought Mr. Prince’s assistance to authenticate them, an episode investigated by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel in the Trump-era Russia inquiry.
The special counsel’s report said that Mr. Prince “provided funding to hire a tech adviser to ascertain the authenticity of the emails. According to Prince, the tech adviser determined that the emails were not authentic.”
Later that year, Mr. Prince turned to Mr. Seddon to help train the Project Veritas operatives. The two men had known each other since Mr. Prince’s days running Blackwater, and shared an affinity for guns and the American West. Mr. Seddon owns a cabin that he keeps stocked with guns, food and other supplies as preparation for a cataclysmic event in the United States.
During a meeting in a Las Vegas suburb last April of employees of Ms. Gore’s organization, the Wyoming Liberty Group, Mr. Seddon pitched a proposal to build a website where other so-called preppers could buy their own supplies and communicate with each other in the event of what he called a “Black Swan” moment — a major terrorist attack, another pandemic or a civil war.
Ms. Gore ended up rejecting the proposal because it was too expensive — people with knowledge of the plan said it would start in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Fight ,fight ,fight
Trump’s full statement
Trump’s full statement
Some weird feckers out there living amongst regular Janes and Joes.
https://floridapolitics.com/archive...e-tarrio-fellow-jan-6-attendee-forgiato-blow/
Christine Quinn campaign event to feature FBI informant and Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, fellow Jan. 6 attendee Forgiato Blow
The Clearwater event lineup features domestic extremists and election deniers.
A menagerie of far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists led by congressional candidate Christine Quinn is bringing recently incarcerated Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio‘s MAGA Revenge Tour to a Clearwater parking lot this Saturday.
Guests shouldn’t expect much in the way of truth at the event. Tarrio has admitted to purposefully lying in order to disrupt the media. And Quinn, who is running this year in Florida’s 13th Congressional District still has an open suit against Hillsborough County Supervisor of Elections Craig Latimer related to her failed attempt to unseat U.S. Rep. Kathy Castor in the Florida’s 14th Congressional District in 2020.
During her 2020 Election Day watch party atop Tampa’s Epicurean Hotel, Quinn told reporters she was confident her campaign would be successful. Returns that night showed her losing by more than 20 percentage points, or around 80,000 votes. But Quinn — following along with the percolating election lies of defeated former President Donald Trump — was convinced that enough mail-in ballots were fraudulent to swing the race in her favor. She tried to sue Latimer to stop the counting of some mail-in ballots.
But the court wasn’t having it.
“The request for emergency relief is frivolous and a misuse of the court’s capacity to entertain true emergencies,” Judge Steven Scott Stephens wrote in an order denying relief. “No law was cited, nor were any concrete factual allegations made, that could justify emergency treatment of this complaint.”
That, however, didn’t stop Quinn from hanging out in the bar car on the Trump Train and buying rounds for everyone aboard the “loco”-motive.
In fact, she appeared in a music video for a song called “Trump Train” by the Trump-obsessed St. Pete rapper and fortunate grandson of publishing magnate Stuart Arnold known as Forgiato Blow. His real name is Kurt Jantz. Jantz is known for albums like Magaveli, a portmanteau of Trump’s Make America Great Again slogan and Tupac Shakur’s alter ego, Makaveli. He also created the song “White History Month” and often drives around in a massive, lifted pick-up truck airbrushed with the image of a muscle-bound Trump firing a large machine gun.
Jantz is a featured performer at Saturday’s event along with J360, who appears with him on “White History Month.”
Both Quinn and Jantz rode that train — er … private jet — to Washington on Jan. 6, 2021 for Trump’s “Stop the Steal” rally that devolved into a riot. Quinn sued Jeff Hawks — the leader of a local, violent extremist group called Community Patriots — in Hillsborough County Court for not reimbursing her for the trip on the private jet and hotel rooms she paid for.
Jantz memorialized his attendance at the riot in song. He recorded the eponymous “Ashli Babbitt” as a tribute to the San Diego woman and follower of QAnon who was killed while storming the Capitol.
In the song he says: “RIP to anybody who lost their life in the Capitol, man. Jan. 6. On both sides. I saw it with my own eyes. My feet were out there. I was not in the Capitol though. Never stepped foot in no Capitol. I was just out there seeing it first hand. I put a lot of time in for Trump. We put a lot of time in for Trump.”
Convicted liar Roger Stone was originally slated to appear, but his name has since dropped off the bill.
The MAGA Revenge Tour will be held at Quaker Steak & Lube in Clearwater Saturday Feb. 12 from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. The Clearwater stop is the only one advertised on the “tour.”
Tarrio was released from jail last month after serving four months for igniting a Black Lives Matter flag at a historic Black church in D.C. He’s also under investigation for meeting with leaders of other extremist groups like the Oath Keepers in the days leading to the insurrection. His leadership role in the organization received pushback after it was uncovered he was long serving FBI informant.
https://floridapolitics.com/archive...e-tarrio-fellow-jan-6-attendee-forgiato-blow/
Christine Quinn campaign event to feature FBI informant and Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, fellow Jan. 6 attendee Forgiato Blow
The Clearwater event lineup features domestic extremists and election deniers.
A menagerie of far-right extremists and conspiracy theorists led by congressional candidate Christine Quinn is bringing recently incarcerated Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio‘s MAGA Revenge Tour to a Clearwater parking lot this Saturday.
Guests shouldn’t expect much in the way of truth at the event. Tarrio has admitted to purposefully lying in order to disrupt the media. And Quinn, who is running this year in Florida’s 13th Congressional District still has an open suit against Hillsborough County Supervisor of Elections Craig Latimer related to her failed attempt to unseat U.S. Rep. Kathy Castor in the Florida’s 14th Congressional District in 2020.
During her 2020 Election Day watch party atop Tampa’s Epicurean Hotel, Quinn told reporters she was confident her campaign would be successful. Returns that night showed her losing by more than 20 percentage points, or around 80,000 votes. But Quinn — following along with the percolating election lies of defeated former President Donald Trump — was convinced that enough mail-in ballots were fraudulent to swing the race in her favor. She tried to sue Latimer to stop the counting of some mail-in ballots.
But the court wasn’t having it.
“The request for emergency relief is frivolous and a misuse of the court’s capacity to entertain true emergencies,” Judge Steven Scott Stephens wrote in an order denying relief. “No law was cited, nor were any concrete factual allegations made, that could justify emergency treatment of this complaint.”
That, however, didn’t stop Quinn from hanging out in the bar car on the Trump Train and buying rounds for everyone aboard the “loco”-motive.
In fact, she appeared in a music video for a song called “Trump Train” by the Trump-obsessed St. Pete rapper and fortunate grandson of publishing magnate Stuart Arnold known as Forgiato Blow. His real name is Kurt Jantz. Jantz is known for albums like Magaveli, a portmanteau of Trump’s Make America Great Again slogan and Tupac Shakur’s alter ego, Makaveli. He also created the song “White History Month” and often drives around in a massive, lifted pick-up truck airbrushed with the image of a muscle-bound Trump firing a large machine gun.
Jantz is a featured performer at Saturday’s event along with J360, who appears with him on “White History Month.”
Both Quinn and Jantz rode that train — er … private jet — to Washington on Jan. 6, 2021 for Trump’s “Stop the Steal” rally that devolved into a riot. Quinn sued Jeff Hawks — the leader of a local, violent extremist group called Community Patriots — in Hillsborough County Court for not reimbursing her for the trip on the private jet and hotel rooms she paid for.
Jantz memorialized his attendance at the riot in song. He recorded the eponymous “Ashli Babbitt” as a tribute to the San Diego woman and follower of QAnon who was killed while storming the Capitol.
In the song he says: “RIP to anybody who lost their life in the Capitol, man. Jan. 6. On both sides. I saw it with my own eyes. My feet were out there. I was not in the Capitol though. Never stepped foot in no Capitol. I was just out there seeing it first hand. I put a lot of time in for Trump. We put a lot of time in for Trump.”
Convicted liar Roger Stone was originally slated to appear, but his name has since dropped off the bill.
The MAGA Revenge Tour will be held at Quaker Steak & Lube in Clearwater Saturday Feb. 12 from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. The Clearwater stop is the only one advertised on the “tour.”
Tarrio was released from jail last month after serving four months for igniting a Black Lives Matter flag at a historic Black church in D.C. He’s also under investigation for meeting with leaders of other extremist groups like the Oath Keepers in the days leading to the insurrection. His leadership role in the organization received pushback after it was uncovered he was long serving FBI informant.
What about "Hail Trump" as a replacement for hello and goodbye?
I think he would like that.
I think he would like that.
Actually eaten at that Quaker Steak. It is a perfect venue for such insanity.
I think you mean “Heil Trump”.
Would go down well with his Infantroopen.
Didn’t realize he was a Trumper…
Yeah he's been proving himself a bellend for a few years now.
It fits him.
He's been an outspoken republican for years.
Better hope the MAGAts don't find out about that one episode on the Dennis Rodman show when Kelsey was making out with Pat Smear.
It is odd that Grammer rejected the Tea Party years ago based on their anti-same sex marriage (and perhaps other anti-things he didn't align with) and yet finds his way to supporting an even more far right platform bordering on fascism. He has claimed to be a "kinder conservative" and "more libertarian" yet here he is.
It is odd that Grammer rejected the Tea Party years ago based on their anti-same sex marriage (and perhaps other anti-things he didn't align with) and yet finds his way to supporting an even more far right platform bordering on fascism. He has claimed to be a "kinder conservative" and "more libertarian" yet here he is.
This is significant, basically means the accounts Trump Org have filed for last 10 years are complete bollocks.
The company don't say that though - presumably someone competent has to go and find out how wrong they are before they can actually charge him with anything. Might be easier said than done.
You can bet your balls they'll take the fifth.
I bet my balls that this decision will be stayed pending appeal to a higher court and that the decision will then be revoked.
It's so obvious the Feds are dragging this "case" out until he dies. Then they, and everyone else, will just forget about it. The kids will put all the blame on the dead dad. Done.
Honestly, I think establishment America doesn’t want him to go down for 3 reasons.
1. He’s a former president, that’s embarrassing - America doesn’t want to have a criminal President in the history books. Bad presidents are already 10 a penny, criminals is another thing altogether.
2. They don’t want to set a precedent of charging former presidents with crimes - it leads to uncomfortable places.
3. It’s political dynamite. Sending him to jail would ignite his base.
The way to punish that family is by making them go broke. Jail would be great but broke is better.
Still, even if that happened you’ll have magats sending him money they could ill afford to part with. And there are enough idiots (approx 74 million) to help bail him out, financially.
Still, even if that happened you’ll have magats sending him money they could ill afford to part with. And there are enough idiots (approx 74 million) to help bail him out, financially.
The problem I see is this: unless you root the bad apple out by the full extent of the law, the rot will creep in far deeper and set up the terrain for a far more intelligent and ruthless criminal mind to get there. Besides, there are countries in which an arrest of a former president was necessary because evidence was overwhelming
- Serbia: Slobodan Milosevic was thrown behind bars on charges of abuse of power and corruption before his extradition to The Hague.
- France: Nicolas Sarkozy was found guilty of corruption on 2 separate trials.
- South Korea: Definitely the most spectacular example, they got former presidents Park Geun-hye (2016 South Korean political scandal) and Lee Myung-bak imprisoned after being found guilty of abuse of power, bribery, embezzlement, and tax evasion.
They are already doing that. These are the same rubes that send money to mega churches as well. It's the same grift.
True.
I should get me some. If they’re that stupid I see no reason not to relieve them, legally of course, of their money.
America is a different ball game. One half of the political spectrum live in a completely different reality. The countries you mentioned have some sort of middle ground when it comes to their politics.
That said, I think letting him go would be a bigger disaster long term.