Donald Trump - GUILTY!
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Even the cheers from the ‘slightly partisan’ audience were muffled to the point of incredulity
Sounds like she is serious about getting the case tried before the election.
Legal analyst in CNN said it was a long shot, even before the delay.
On Trump’s recent Tik Tok reversal
How have I never seen this before?
FML, this may be the greatest pic of all time. So much to unpack. Don Jr borrowed daddies tanning lotion. Eric is adopted. Those kids haircuts
The creepy and very wrong stance and look in Trump's eyes as he hovers over his kids like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. The fact Jimmy Saville would fit perfectly in this picture and still not look as menacing as Trump. Ivanka looking absolutely feck all like she does now proving ugly duck syndrome or if you're rich, plastic surgery works...... And even as a kid Don Jr looks absolutely coked off his tits
Only $3 million more than the bond he has to pay tomorrow.
Gutted.
Only $3 million more than the bond he has to pay tomorrow.
It will fall much further once the market fully prices in Trump's involvement and debts. He also wouldn't be able to use any of the money for 6 months and will still be on the hook for what is due Monday.
Tomorrow
I'm not expecting anything, the cnut will find a way to get the cash or wriggle out of it one way or another.
The hashtag #DonPoorleone is trending on Twitter right now.
Can’t wait for tomorrow.
He will pay in the last minute, he is doing it on purpose the cnut
They better check where the money comes from if he does.
Garland was too slow.
"The department bears some of that responsibility." = Tactful way to say they fecked up.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/us/politics/trump-jan-6-merrick-garland.html
Inside Garland’s Effort to Prosecute Trump
In trying to avoid even the smallest mistakes, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland might have made one big one: ending up in a race against the clock.
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In trying to avoid even the smallest mistakes, Mr. Garland might have made one big one: not recognizing that he could end up racing the clock. Like much of the political world and official Washington, he and his team did not count on Mr. Trump’s political resurrection after Jan. 6, and his fast victory in the 2024 Republican presidential primary, which has complicated the prosecution and given the former president leverage in court.
In 2021 it was “simply inconceivable,” said one former Justice Department official, that Mr. Trump, rebuked by many in his own party and exiled at his Florida estate Mar-a-Lago, would regain the power to impose his timetable on the investigation.
“I think that delay has contributed to a situation where none of these trials may go forward,” Representative Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California, said in a recent interview on CNN, citing the Justice Department’s approach as a factor. “The department bears some of that responsibility.”
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"The department bears some of that responsibility." = Tactful way to say they fecked up.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/us/politics/trump-jan-6-merrick-garland.html
Inside Garland’s Effort to Prosecute Trump
In trying to avoid even the smallest mistakes, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland might have made one big one: ending up in a race against the clock.
[...]
In trying to avoid even the smallest mistakes, Mr. Garland might have made one big one: not recognizing that he could end up racing the clock. Like much of the political world and official Washington, he and his team did not count on Mr. Trump’s political resurrection after Jan. 6, and his fast victory in the 2024 Republican presidential primary, which has complicated the prosecution and given the former president leverage in court.
In 2021 it was “simply inconceivable,” said one former Justice Department official, that Mr. Trump, rebuked by many in his own party and exiled at his Florida estate Mar-a-Lago, would regain the power to impose his timetable on the investigation.
“I think that delay has contributed to a situation where none of these trials may go forward,” Representative Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California, said in a recent interview on CNN, citing the Justice Department’s approach as a factor. “The department bears some of that responsibility.”
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Can he pardon himself if elected the President?
He will certainly try. And with SCOTUS the way it is he may suceed
He probably can make all the Federal cases die. If not pardon them all away. But the Georgia case he can't just make disappear but him in office might severely complicate it. There has never been anything like making a sitting president come participate in a trial....
The little I know of the American judicial system come from watching LA Law. But it seems like if you have power, and/ or access to funds and lawyers there is so many options to stall and appeal even without presidential powers. With presidential powers I would assume it would be nearly impossible to have someone convicted.
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This outrageous. We wanted to see a fire sale of Trump Tower, Bedminster, and Mar-a-lago today, and instead got this.
Christ...what's the point? In 10 days some new shit will pop up giving him another lifeline.
Looking forward to the last second stay on the NY AG case to avoid the messy repercussions of trying to go after Trump's assets. Because optics > the law, I fear.
Sounds like the judge in the hush-money payments case is pushing forward though, should be in April.
Sounds like the judge in the hush-money payments case is pushing forward though, should be in April.
He is getting away every-single-time
Is incredible. He always find a way to stall and try to get away. Now 10 days more for a fraction
Yeah, he will never face justice, the US legal system is rigged in favor of the powerful.
My new silver-lining of all this is that the idiot GOP base needs to get what it wants for 4 more years to lance the boil that is the MAGA movement. The rest of the world will just have to cross our fingers and hope there's something at the end of it.
I've been trying to go back in history and see all the other crazy time periods, and there really have been some. Hopefully this one will pass and we can get back to moving forwards as a country. It won't hurt that a good chunk of his voters won't be voting in the next one.
I've been trying to go back in history and see all the other crazy time periods, and there really have been some. Hopefully this one will pass and we can get back to moving forwards as a country. It won't hurt that a good chunk of his voters won't be voting in the next one.
Tomorrow
I'm not expecting anything, the cnut will find a way to get the cash or wriggle out of it one way or another.
fecking knew it. Absolute sham of a country. It's truly laughable the US still likes to make out it's the height of Western Civilization. It's definitely the home of FREEDOM though, but only if you're rich.
Judges with lifetime appointments, and thus, completely unaccountable to the public wasn't such a good idea, who could have guessed?
Presumably the ruling also points towards an appeal being at least considered by that court - is it the same one that will hear it?
My reading of various legal scholars on the original verdict was basically that his lawyer did such a terrible job it's almost unappealable according to the law. But with the recent SC decisions and now this, who knows what the law even is.
My reading of various legal scholars on the original verdict was basically that his lawyer did such a terrible job it's almost unappealable according to the law. But with the recent SC decisions and now this, who knows what the law even is.
Well he always had the right to legally appeal. Just have to put up the money for it. Most of the legal pundits were saying there was so much paper evidence of fraud. And Trumps team never actually disputed anything, their arguments were just no one was hurt pretty much and everyone does it.
So now he's allowed to post a smaller amount to then proceed with the appeal. That doesn't change the facts or evidence of fraud they will have to come up with actual reasons other than "everyone does it", or some kind of actual defense of the clear fraud.
I mean appeal still could maybe say he's still super guilty but the damages amount should maybe be lowered for "reasons". He really can't claim judicial bias. The Judge was pretty lenient even though he was disparaging him during the trial even. Judge let him testify even though he told him not to make speeches etc. He was given a lot of leeway. I am surprised he didn't make an ineffective council appeal. Saying his lawyers screwed him out of a jury trial but not doing the correct paperwork. But that would admit it was his fault and not a witchhunt.
So now he's allowed to post a smaller amount to then proceed with the appeal. That doesn't change the facts or evidence of fraud they will have to come up with actual reasons other than "everyone does it", or some kind of actual defense of the clear fraud.
I mean appeal still could maybe say he's still super guilty but the damages amount should maybe be lowered for "reasons". He really can't claim judicial bias. The Judge was pretty lenient even though he was disparaging him during the trial even. Judge let him testify even though he told him not to make speeches etc. He was given a lot of leeway. I am surprised he didn't make an ineffective council appeal. Saying his lawyers screwed him out of a jury trial but not doing the correct paperwork. But that would admit it was his fault and not a witchhunt.
The chance of Trump getting convicted of anything, let alone before the election, is exactly 0%.
I expect the other cases to be delayed and delayed, heck, courts might just decide to drop some of them, because "reasons".
Relying on a conviction to beat him on November was never a viable strategy, even though many dems though so.
It will be have to done the hard way, at the ballot box.
I expect the other cases to be delayed and delayed, heck, courts might just decide to drop some of them, because "reasons".
Relying on a conviction to beat him on November was never a viable strategy, even though many dems though so.
It will be have to done the hard way, at the ballot box.
Turns out you called it. So disappointing to wake up and read that this scumbag wriggled free yet again.Tomorrow
I'm not expecting anything, the cnut will find a way to get the cash or wriggle out of it one way or another.
This is absolutely not something we do. We do like to talk about how we are not. Holden to kings and queens, though, and we used to be all for the rule of law instead of religious tomfoolery, but that has all changed.
But does he have even near enough $200mill? If his appeal fails, he's still on the hook for the monies he apparently doesn't have.
Didn't mean any disrespect,.and no, you're right, it was a generalisation and for that I apologise. However the fact is, many still do. Those that usually do though are often the right wing nut jobs and MAGA loons. Maybe time to send them all to Alaska, or Texas and cut it free from everywhere else?
Maybe not Alaska, it's waaaaay too beautiful.
No, no, I think it was fair, in retrospect. Most harsh criticisms of the US these days are valid, unfortunately.
We're really not an awful people, I promise, despite what the MAGA people are doing to convince the world otherwise.
To be fair there are a lot of grizzly bears up there and they get hungry between salmon spawns.
Yet another rich men gets things their way.
We're really not an awful people, I promise, despite what the MAGA people are doing to convince the world otherwise.
It's ok, I have lots of friends in the US, many who were customers of mine for years when I was selling records online. I'm not one of those who hates the US or all Americans. It's a shame that needs to be clarified though as sadly, you're right many do kind of think everyone from the US is like the MAGA nuts. Don't worry we have the exact same thing here with right wing loons. I don't think anywhere is exempt, sadly. Although some countries have far less.
Yeah, but the MAGA clowns all have guns and like shooting shit, and I'm betting they outnumber the bears quite heavily. Although maybe they would all start to starve and turn on each other?