Sasse, Burr and Cassidy.
Donald Trump - GUILTY!
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Damn....surprising.
Only 7 Republicans voted for him guilty.
The whole point of appointing those judges is to merely maintain the status quo. There is no proactive action when you do this. The one proactive action McConnell tried to take, ending the ACA, spectacularly backfired. The reality is it is hard to do anything proactively in this form of government.
He has no choice, the GOP needs to be present for a quorum to be established and they will prevent any attempts to stop the vacation from happening.
The commentators on CNN said it was possible to stop this trial for a couple of weeks while the managers and the defense organised the witnesses and the procedure. They can take care of the relief bill in the meantime, as well as cabinet nominations.
You mean...people like yourself?
We're all guilty.
He needs 1 Republican Senator to show up. If Schumer comes out and says he had all 50 dems on board and he asked all 50 R's and every one of them said no then I will let him off the hook.
Some more than others.
Burr is retiring isn't he?
There have been numerous times that the CNN commentators claim something is possible and then have to come back and reverse their claim later. The reality is that the Senate rules are a black hole that no one understands and that most things take 60 votes to change, which means you need 10 GOP votes to do many basic things, like changing a schedule. I do think that ending the filibuster is inevitable as a result (maybe the Dems will be too scared but the GOP eventually will).
Well, except for Trump.
That was probably never going to work given that Senators are needed to run the government.
Yep, even Cassidy is considering retirement.
I mean he was never going to be convicted.
Part of the reason they will have only two years of Congress is because they never stand up to fight for their base.
Cassidy is going to get massacred for his yes vote.
They're taking a week off now, so I'm not sure you're argument about other matter's urgency is a good one in this case.
I don't know, and by your "probably" I assume you don't either. It's the fact they didn't even try that is so ridiculous.
There will almost certainly be 7 state GOP parties preparing censure votes tonight.
I'm surprised that people still think that the inability to turn out the base is the reason that Dems don't win more, especially with all the data from the 2020 election. The reality is that it is more important to win moderate, high-propensity voters to your side to win gerrymandered house districts.
Already addressed this in a previous comment explaining that Schumer would need to get GOP support to stop the vacation. This will never happen as everyone in the GOP, even those who voted to convict, care more about themselves than helping others.
The abysmal failure of efforts in purple states (like Texas) to win at the state level means that we have only seen the tip of the gerrymandering ice berg.
Ya I'm really scared about it. If the Dems don't grow a pair, remove the filibuster, and pass the John Lewis bill, we are all likely screwed.
OK, another opportunity to make a point to americans. Have the senate next week with 50 democrat senators saying they're ready to work on a relief bill to help americans but all the 50 republicans chose not to show up and go on vacation instead.
Again, he would need 1 GOP Senator to do this. One. He did it because his own party cares more about themselves then us. That is not a GOP exclusive issue. If he can prove all 50 in his caucus would have shown up, and not a single GOP member would, then I retract.
He went from having a 5/4 SCOTUS to having a 6/3 by being a monumental cnut. Wish the Dems had that kind of a cnut.
Agree 1000000%. How the Dems do not see that their only hope in the near/medium future is HR1/S1 is beyond me. It will pass the house no problem, but the Dem senators lack of self preservation is shocking.
You have to ask what the objective would be, especially given that there are a mountain of other legislative actions the Dem Senate needs to get to. COVID, economy, infrastructure, healthcare and many others.
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Maybe show their voters, who overwhelmingly hate Trump, they are willing to fight to convict them using all the weapons they can and not cave to what republicans want on the first occasion?
McConnell is condemning Trump after voting not guilty. Bonkers.
Trump will be coming down an escalator again and 2024 will be 2016 all over again
If the Dems did this, they would just look spectacularly stupid. The GOP will just point and laugh while developing their tans at a tropical destination. Then the same folks on this forum complaining about the Dems folding would then cry about how dumb the Dems made themselves look.
Minutes after voting to acquit him..
He sounds like he's prosecuting Trump now. Truly bizarre.Which is actually worse than just saying "feck it, didn't want to convict". He is leaning hard into the "Ah shucks, if only he was still in office I would have voted guilty." This is setting recorded precedent.
They would look stupid by showing up to work on a relief bill during a pandemic when their voters are suffering? I don't think the majority of voters would see it like that. I certainly wouldn't if I was an american.
Hasn't McConnell voted not guilty?
This speech is like scoring a consolation goal in the 91st minute
This speech is like scoring a consolation goal in the 91st minute
McConnell is a scumbag. How can he marry what he's saying with voting to acquit?