Would prefer 4 strikers as if one injured we would be short. I think Berba, Owen and Macheda will be gone. No idea who though, no point getting another Berbatov type as if that is what Fergie wants, why not play Berbatov.
Do we need a new Striker in the summer?
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Berbatov is almost certain to leave on a free as is Owen. Macheda could be put on loan again to another EPL club. I think we certainly need another tall striker to replace at least Berbatov. Ricky Van Wolfswinkel was being scouted by us around Christmas he'd make a good buy.
RVW!
RVW!
Demba Ba? In all seriousness if we can keep him fit he'd be a great signing. Newcastle would be willing to sell too, everyone.
Think we need overhaul of midfield 1st, though if we get fund for both i wouldn't mind seeing a new creative striker come in and out berba/owen.
The thing is, rather than buying an out and out striker, if we buy a player like Modric, he can if needed replace Rooney in the deeper role and have Rooney leading the line. Plus all the other options it gives us.
Buying another out and out striker when we have Hernandez and welbeck in that role seems like spending a lot of money on an extremely minor upgrade in the squad. Instead if we buy someone who can fill in for Rooney as the AM (which is basically what he is) and plug other gaps as well if needed, we still have the option of pushing wayne forward into the #9 role.
Buying another out and out striker when we have Hernandez and welbeck in that role seems like spending a lot of money on an extremely minor upgrade in the squad. Instead if we buy someone who can fill in for Rooney as the AM (which is basically what he is) and plug other gaps as well if needed, we still have the option of pushing wayne forward into the #9 role.
Weren't we linked with Van Wolfswinkel a few months ago? It would be plain Ruud not to follow up our interest.
That's one of best name ever.
it made me piss myself the first time I heard it.
God only knows what song they would come up with for him.
RVW's chant would be
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Bumping this thread to go with my comment in the Berbatov thread, now he's seemingly off will a striker now almost certainly be one of the priorities in the summer? Surely it would be unwise to put all our eggs in a Hernandez & Welbeck shaped basket should Rooney suffer a bad injury?
we need an experienced striker to play alongside Rooney until either Hernandez or Welbeck are fully ready. 29-30 year old for a couple of years. but who?
Llorente would be a handful at the end of Valencia and Youngs crosses.
Welbeck and Hernandez are already ready. You have to play them for them to improve.
If a striker is bought it won't be a 29-30 year old.
Furthermore Welbeck and Hernandez have been partnering Rooney. Berbatov has been deputizing Rooney in the support striker role.
In my opinion Ashley Young and Giggs can do a job there, so the club might decide to bring in a young winger instead and just use the likes of Nani if things get desperate.
There is also still Michael Owen and Macheda and perhaps a promotion from the reserves to think about.
If a striker is bought it won't be a 29-30 year old.
Furthermore Welbeck and Hernandez have been partnering Rooney. Berbatov has been deputizing Rooney in the support striker role.
In my opinion Ashley Young and Giggs can do a job there, so the club might decide to bring in a young winger instead and just use the likes of Nani if things get desperate.
There is also still Michael Owen and Macheda and perhaps a promotion from the reserves to think about.
Wouldn't sign anyone who would take away games from Welbeck and Hernandez. There's just no need because they are excellent already so to get an improvement we'd have to be looking at spending around £30million on Llorente or someone similar.
Even if we has the funds to do that, which we don't, I'd still probably be opposed seeing as the more game time Hernandez and Welbeck get, the faster they will develop. Both have the potential to be world class in my view, so we should be patient and just let them carry on as they are.
Even if we has the funds to do that, which we don't, I'd still probably be opposed seeing as the more game time Hernandez and Welbeck get, the faster they will develop. Both have the potential to be world class in my view, so we should be patient and just let them carry on as they are.
To be brutally honest, I can't see Macheda stepping up. Personally, I'll be surprised if he doesn't move on.
I am not sure about us needing a striker. Why bring someone in to play with Rooney when we have both Hernandez and Welbeck. The more they play, the better they will get. If needed, Young can play there also. We could try and bring Keane through.
I'd spend whatever money we have on a midfielder.
I am not sure about us needing a striker. Why bring someone in to play with Rooney when we have both Hernandez and Welbeck. The more they play, the better they will get. If needed, Young can play there also. We could try and bring Keane through.
I'd spend whatever money we have on a midfielder.
Welbeck is going to be first choice for many, many years. He is a fantastic, potentially world class, player in the making. Hernandez will also be very useful as part of the rotation. A 4th player would be nice in case of injury but personally I would not be loathe to given that spot to Will Keane. He looks the business.
if we sign Llorente or someone in his class then it is going to cost us a lot and the new signing has to be the first choice partner for rooney, which is unlikely to happen considering that we already have hernandez and welbeck.
berba is surely 99.99% off this summer which is sad, as he would be an excellent 4th choice striker for us. he seems to be quite happy even not starting every game earlier in the season, but he has been frozen out completely since january and his united career appears to be over now.
i don't think owen is good enough to start for us in the PL these days. and he seems to be injured all the time.
macheda is still young and will improve(hopefully). but he is not even good enough to be QPR's 4th choice striker so .....
i would like to see will keane to be given his chance in the league cup next season but the premier league is perhaps a season or two too early for him.
how about signing an experience player who is happy to play 20-25 games a season for us. my suggestion is alessandro del piero. out of contract this summer so he will be a free signing. i think sir alex tried to sign him back in 2006 when juve got relegated. he is 37 now but if we use him properly like what we have done with giggs and scholes, i'm sure he can do a job for us. the young forwards can also learn a lot from him.
berba is surely 99.99% off this summer which is sad, as he would be an excellent 4th choice striker for us. he seems to be quite happy even not starting every game earlier in the season, but he has been frozen out completely since january and his united career appears to be over now.
i don't think owen is good enough to start for us in the PL these days. and he seems to be injured all the time.
macheda is still young and will improve(hopefully). but he is not even good enough to be QPR's 4th choice striker so .....
i would like to see will keane to be given his chance in the league cup next season but the premier league is perhaps a season or two too early for him.
how about signing an experience player who is happy to play 20-25 games a season for us. my suggestion is alessandro del piero. out of contract this summer so he will be a free signing. i think sir alex tried to sign him back in 2006 when juve got relegated. he is 37 now but if we use him properly like what we have done with giggs and scholes, i'm sure he can do a job for us. the young forwards can also learn a lot from him.
I highly doubt well sign a striker. Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez are enough as we can always play the one up top as we do in the tough European games.
Spend the money on a class CM and maybe a leftback. If a potential world beater like Hazard is a posibility then that would be good also.
Spend the money on a class CM and maybe a leftback. If a potential world beater like Hazard is a posibility then that would be good also.
We need attacking and holding midfielders. Not any more strikers
Was wondering this myself? What got me thinking is the rotation of Welbeck and Hernandez.
Does that mean SAF undecided on them or just rotates based on who we are playing?
If it's the first two, would a new striker stunt their development?
Ultimately, if we win the league, they are good enough and will surely only get better.
I'm intrigued by the idea of signing hoilett...could be a good back up to Rooney.
Does that mean SAF undecided on them or just rotates based on who we are playing?
If it's the first two, would a new striker stunt their development?
Ultimately, if we win the league, they are good enough and will surely only get better.
I'm intrigued by the idea of signing hoilett...could be a good back up to Rooney.
I think we could use another experienced striker, especially for games where Rooney can't play because welbeck still has a lot to learn and Hernandez relies on others creating for him. The four striker policy works well and we've got two young strikers in Hernandez and welbeck, I think it's one more experienced striker we could use. That or an attacking midfielder. having said that if we sign a midfielder who can also play wide we could always push young through the middle, not to mention nani who looked great their.
Midfield is priority by far.
But Berba is off, Owen should be off, Macheda is crap, Hernandez plays like crap atm and Welbeck's form is not too good either. Danny should be getting better with all this game time, he hasn't stepped up yet.
On that basis we should look for a striker, but only after we get our midfield sorted first.
That being said, Welbeck is the shit and the future.
Therefore a oldish striker might do the trick, say someone like RvP.
But Berba is off, Owen should be off, Macheda is crap, Hernandez plays like crap atm and Welbeck's form is not too good either. Danny should be getting better with all this game time, he hasn't stepped up yet.
On that basis we should look for a striker, but only after we get our midfield sorted first.
That being said, Welbeck is the shit and the future.
Therefore a oldish striker might do the trick, say someone like RvP.
Bringing in a midfielder who can play the Rooney role would allow us to play Rooney as the frontman when required, with someone else behind him.
I think one of Owen or Macheda will stay with us and they will be the 4th choice backup striker when needed.
I think one of Owen or Macheda will stay with us and they will be the 4th choice backup striker when needed.
A 'big man' is probably what we're missing. (In terms of rounding it out, not saying we need it).
But I reckon Fergie is trying to move us away from that. Berbs and Welbeck are as close to that as we have and they are both talented and more skilful than 'big'.
But I reckon Fergie is trying to move us away from that. Berbs and Welbeck are as close to that as we have and they are both talented and more skilful than 'big'.
I was thinking about this yesterday, since I don't think Hernandez should be our starting player. He just doesn't offer enough and when his finishing is off (as was yesterday) he's pretty woeful.
Welbeck seems to have a dip in form, but I'm convinced he'll be amazing. Next year, with these 3 and Owen, that should be enough. Then we can reassess the situation after Owen goes, depending on how Welbeck, Hernandez and Macheda have improved.
Welbeck seems to have a dip in form, but I'm convinced he'll be amazing. Next year, with these 3 and Owen, that should be enough. Then we can reassess the situation after Owen goes, depending on how Welbeck, Hernandez and Macheda have improved.
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I think we definitely need to look at finding the next Scholes this summer. Cleverley has potential but his fitness is a concern.
We need to stop over hyping Welbeck, he's still got a lot to prove, potential is one thing but achieving it is another.
Unless we've identified a real talent then I can't see us signing a striker especially an older one, why get rid of Berbatov if that was the case? I doubt we've got an offer we can't refuse.
I can only see our creativity through the middle increasing next year (with Cleverley hopefully staying fit/new signing) which should help us utilise Hernandez a little better.
Unless we've identified a real talent then I can't see us signing a striker especially an older one, why get rid of Berbatov if that was the case? I doubt we've got an offer we can't refuse.
I can only see our creativity through the middle increasing next year (with Cleverley hopefully staying fit/new signing) which should help us utilise Hernandez a little better.
I haven't seen him play in ages. Can he still hack it?
If Rooney was out for any length of time I think we'd be caught a bit short.
We defininatly need a deadly striker. Welbeck and Hernandez just aren't up to it, they both good players and bring speed and a little flair to the team but they are not deadly enough in the area. Imagine this side with a RVN or an Andy Cole. Tell you what, I would bet that Torres would fit nicely into this side.
Del Piero
I like the aged yet quality pro idea. Look at Raul, for example. He'd be a fantastic addition to any squad. Larsson worked out well as a short-term fix too. Mickey Owen is pointless as cover, because he's never fecking available. Replacing him with someone who is slightly more robust (which isn't hard) and a similar age/quality would be great.
What's Ruud up to these days?
What's Ruud up to these days?
I'd rather we go to 4-3-3 with Rooney up front, any combination of nani, young, and valencia on the wings and a Modric type in the middle. Then release Berba and Owen, and bring Kiko back.
Is he playing in the german league?
Berbatov out. Macheda in. Owen will stick around for when Fergie needs to talk about horses and for the young ones to look up to. I wouldn't be surprised to see a young striker coming in though that will replace Owen sticking around after another year and eventually (along with out current youths) will look to support our main options in the future.
I think the midfield is where it's at. Especially if Pogba is off. I think tunners is still a couple of years off too, so perhaps an established centre midfielder and a young hot prospect.
We need to replace Scholes, Giggs, Park etc.. in a couple of years (or sooner). Some of our younger midfielders should at least make it to squad status if not first teamer, but that'll be a number of years off yet, and isn't guarenteed. If both Scholes and Pogba are off it's inevitable we'll have to do something. It's probably 99% certain we'll get a midfielder of some description this summer.
I think the midfield is where it's at. Especially if Pogba is off. I think tunners is still a couple of years off too, so perhaps an established centre midfielder and a young hot prospect.
We need to replace Scholes, Giggs, Park etc.. in a couple of years (or sooner). Some of our younger midfielders should at least make it to squad status if not first teamer, but that'll be a number of years off yet, and isn't guarenteed. If both Scholes and Pogba are off it's inevitable we'll have to do something. It's probably 99% certain we'll get a midfielder of some description this summer.
What about Cisse?
Let Berba and Owen leave and bring in Demba Ba like others have mentioned here. United need another big striker that is able to finish and Ba probably wouldn't mind a rotating role at United.
Plays for Malaga in La liga, but is stuck on the bench most the time now.
Rondon is their main striker i believe