Do we need a new No. 1 Keeper or a Backup?

At least we've solved the problem with De Gea being bullied on corners eh? :lol:
 
To be truthful I’ve never been a fan of Onana. I liked DDG, who had his failings. Onana gives me first day at school anxiety
 
We need to be protecting our goal keeper better there. There were 3 players trying to obstruct Onana on the goal line with an in swinging corner. The defenders should be pushing the players away. Maguire was the only one who had reacted.
 
Onana has just not looked strong in box. Honestly, last year he was the sole reason we were knocked out of European competition. This year he started strong with really good performances but he has since slipped back into the form he was in last year. He is weak in the box, sometimes extremely indecisive. We got him as a sweeper keeper and he looks good with ball at his feet, but his distribution isnt really that good either. I would look to move him on this summer... .seriously... he is responsible for too many goals!
 
greater wall said:
We need to be protecting our goal keeper better there. There were 3 players trying to obstruct Onana on the goal line with an in swinging corner. The defenders should be pushing the players away. Maguire was the only one who had reacted.
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Yeah the whole thing was avoidable. The team just lacks any common sense or in-game intelligence.

United could have done any number of things to combat that approach from Wolves, instead they did naff all and just let it happen.
 
Yes. Onana will have a little run where you think maybe he's sorted things out and will look good but even then you're waiting for the blunder to come and inevitably it does and continues for a few games

I envy Liverpool with 2 great goalkeepers

Absolute priority in January needs to be a striker that can actually do what a striker is supposed to and put the ball in the bloody net but the goalkeepers are bordering on being liabilities I know Onana has had some good games but nowhere near enough for what is supposed to be first choice gk and you're just waiting for the next blunder
 
I remember when we had Romero as back up, he was great (probably too good to be a back up, but then look at Kelleher for Liverpool they had to use him for a run of games and didn't suffer due to it)
 
United Hobbit said:
Yes. Onana will have a little run where you think maybe he's sorted things out and will look good but even then you're waiting for the blunder to come and inevitably it does and continues for a few games

I envy Liverpool with 2 great goalkeepers

Absolute priority in January needs to be a striker that can actually do what a striker is supposed to and put the ball in the bloody net but the goalkeepers are bordering on being liabilities I know Onana has had some good games but nowhere near enough for what is supposed to be first choice gk and you're just waiting for the next blunder
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They have signed another GK for next season, who is probably better than Onana too.
 
United Hobbit said:
Yes. Onana will have a little run where you think maybe he's sorted things out and will look good but even then you're waiting for the blunder to come and inevitably it does and continues for a few games

I envy Liverpool with 2 great goalkeepers

Absolute priority in January needs to be a striker that can actually do what a striker is supposed to and put the ball in the bloody net but the goalkeepers are bordering on being liabilities I know Onana has had some good games but nowhere near enough for what is supposed to be first choice gk and you're just waiting for the next blunder
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And Kelleher will leaving in the summer for relatively little. United should be going for him imo.
 
This is becoming top priority. We are literally 1-0 down in every game due to goalkeeping errors.
 
Keeper is a must in the summer market. Onana is not good enough.
 
I thought this summer we had appointed a set piece specialist who we got from arsenal. Did he leave the same time as ETH and his staff?

Also why don't we put a man on both posts? Surely that will help?

When Onana was first signed, more than a few on the forum said a Utd keepers bet ability had to be shot stopping, but we were all told, nope. Football has evolved, more important for a keeper to play out with his feet than to keep the ball out of the back of the net.

Whoever is the next Utd No1, they will need to be a world class shot stopper ala prime de gea, van der saar, schmeiechel etc.

It's embarrassing when the opposition admit to working all week on scoring directly from a corner (Cunha) as our ability to defend set pieces is so poor and our keeper so average.
 
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I think Onana is a decent keeper but for 50m in that position you are expecting someone who's world class. Especially when they are mid-20s, you aren't buying elite potential but someone close to or at their peak.

Good keepers are available every year for reasonable fees, there was no need to go out and spend that much when we knew the financial position of the club wasn't great and other areas needed upgrading. Vicario (18.5m), Raya (30m), Sommer (6.8m) moved that summer. Going back further you have the likes of Maignan (16m), Kobel (15m), Brice Samba (5m), Martinez (18.5m), Leno (9.5m), Ortega (free), Areola (9m). Some of those wouldn't necessarily be an improvement but they're all at a fairly solid level at least and if they don't work out, you can easily move them on or demote them to back-up.
 
No one talks about Onana weight , he’s 15 stones 93kg not fit or athletic to be a goalkeeper .
 
For where we want to be we do need a new keeper. Ditching DDG for Onana could go down as one of the daftest decisions this club has ever made - massive downgrade.

But with the funds issue we wont be able to go out and sign a top class keeper straight away. May need a half decent stopgap. I wouldnt be surprised if we go for a cut priced Kepa or someone like him in the summer.
 
Maybe but not even close to being a priority especially when you consider the cost to get him out and the cost to replace him. People need to wake up....
 
We should be looking at Verbruggen. He’s young, PL proven and has the level.

His transfermarkt value is €25M, though I dunno for how much he is available

He’d solve our GK problems for the next decade or so
 
IRN-BRUno said:
I think Onana is a decent keeper but for 50m in that position you are expecting someone who's world class. Especially when they are mid-20s, you aren't buying elite potential but someone close to or at their peak.

Good keepers are available every year for reasonable fees, there was no need to go out and spend that much when we knew the financial position of the club wasn't great and other areas needed upgrading. Vicario (18.5m), Raya (30m), Sommer (6.8m) moved that summer. Going back further you have the likes of Maignan (16m), Kobel (15m), Brice Samba (5m), Martinez (18.5m), Leno (9.5m), Ortega (free), Areola (9m). Some of those wouldn't necessarily be an improvement but they're all at a fairly solid level at least and if they don't work out, you can easily move them on or demote them to back-up.
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Honestly that summer we bought Onana, that was a stupid transfer when you consider the fee and options available. The club had identified Verbruggen as a young GK for the long term but he didn’t want to come and be stuck on the bench. We were looking at buying him and Onana which didn’t make sense. Verbruggen was a top talent playing week in and week out and couldn’t afford mistake of sitting on a bench for 2-3 years. The smart decision was still to bin De Gea but get Sommer and then also get Verbruggen. Promise Verbruggen he would be the keeper for the cups in the first year to allow him to acclimatise and the second year he can compete for the starting job. Sommer is a good GK that probably had 2-3 years left as starter so would’ve given the club flexibility. This move would’ve saved the club millions and solved the short term and long term GK issue. Instead we overpaid for Onana based on his prior experience with ETH but not realising that he does have some holes in his game. Now we’re already looking at replacing a GK two years after we paid 50m for him, which is a huge fee for a GK.
 
Onana had come into some form, but when he makes a mistake it’s always a clanger.

Completely different keeper stylistically compared to De Gea, but definitely zero improvement on an overall basis.

We need a better keeper. The current situation on corners is worse than anything De Gea cooked up.
 
NotoriousISSY said:
Onana had come into some form, but when he makes a mistake it’s always a clanger.

Completely different keeper stylistically compared to De Gea, but definitely zero improvement on an overall basis.

We need a better keeper. The current situation on corners is worse than anything De Gea cooked up.
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This is depressingly true, and I always thought De Gea was criminally bad on set pieces. But it’s also become a mental thing for the entire team and crowd now, it’s greeted like a penalty against us.
 
Onana was bought in to suit the ETH style of play. Shot stopping does not seem to be in his arsenal. Time for a new keeper
 
How good is Diogo Costa these days?

Honestly, Onana just isn’t good enough.
With the ball at his feet, he’s supposed to be a modern keeper, but he’s long balls are atrocious, and his short play is nothing more than basic.

That Isak goal the other day, he has this weird ability to jump and turn 90 degrees without actually moving from the spot. Not saying the Isak goal should have been saved, but the amount of times I’ve seen him jump and flop on the spot, it’s so weird to see
 
Salus Populi Suprema Lex said:
Only we would pay £50 million for a keeper whose main quality isn’t shot stopping :D
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But remember shot stopping isn't important. It's the keepers ability with the ball at his feet

We had so many posts like this when we were signing Onana, and some of said he wasn't good enough with his shot stopping.

I remember people waxing lyrically about how Onana would be a game changer for us and allow us to play a high defensive line and how de gea was such a problem. Even though he won Golden glove for us in his final season and has 6 clean sheets this season from 14 games.

Bring a keeper who can battle it out with Onana for no1 and phase him out. There's some really great keepers out there, especially ones who don't give away goals direct from corners.
 
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