Tom Van Persie
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Says who? I haven't seen Bailly, Lukaku or Lindelof linked with a move away from United.He now wants to sell all four them and replace with 30 plus year olds.
Says who? I haven't seen Bailly, Lukaku or Lindelof linked with a move away from United.He now wants to sell all four them and replace with 30 plus year olds.
He can use both feet and doesn't dither on the ball. Can cross without breaking shins. Massive upgrade on Valencia.Id take either him or cancelo frankly but out of the two of them sidibe looks quicker and stronger whilst they're probably near enough the same in a technical sense. Of course that's only an observation based on YouTube videos which can be misleading.
Id take either him or cancelo frankly but out of the two of them sidibe looks quicker and stronger whilst they're probably near enough the same in a technical sense. Of course that's only an observation based on YouTube videos which can be misleading.
Exactly, I think Sidibe be would be the better fit due to his size, physicality and Stamina saying that Cancelo would be like having a Marcelo-lite in the way he goes forward. Either or tbhEither would be a big upgrade on Valencia in an attacking sense, but I'd have some concerns about both of them defensively. That being said, Mourinho organises a pretty mean defence and has even made Jones look competent.
I haven't seen much of him, but yeah from the videos he looks like an absolute unit.So it looks like either Cancelo or Sidibe for RB. From what I've watched of these players (Actual football games, not Youtube videos), I'd go with Sidibe than Cancelo (maybe I've watched him more than Cancelo because of my interest in French NT).
Attacking: Sidibe is much better going forward than Cancelo. Good crosser, beats players well etc. He's got the stats to back that up also.
Defending: Cancelo edges Sidibe out in this imo. But as we all know, physicality can be an important factor for a PL defender. Sidibe is far stronger than Cancelo, as someone said on here, an absolute bull terrier of a player. So with Jose's coaching he can get better at defending.
Transfer: Both would cost around 30-35 million. By the start of next season, Cancelo would be 24 and Sidibe 26. So not much of an issue there.
From what I've seen last season, he's properly great attacking wise (not using great lightly) but terrible defensively. Valencia is Maldini compared to him.
Young doesn't play well on the right and Valencia has 7 assists these past 2 seasons. Sidibe has 16 assists the past two seasons. You're worried about HIS end product?Rapid as hell, long legs and decent strength, looks way faster than Sandro, I think he would settle in the premier league well. The question marks about his end product, dont think he`s all that good crossing, you could make a better compilation of Young and Valencia this year, and his passing is a bit of a suspect too, will be interesting who we go for in the end but quite like Sidibé. Evra wasn`t the best passer either but his speed and directness was a big help with a bit of tricks..
Yeah.We still have Valencia on service next season. If we really go for him, we could choose from him and Tony V against various opponents and scenarios.
One for attacking, one for defending, nice!
We still have Valencia on service next season. If we really go for him, we could choose from him and Tony V against various opponents and scenarios.
One for attacking, one for defending, nice!
Well that`s good statistics if true, for a fullback for sure, but we all know that Mourinho doesn`t set up attackingly at all, compared to Monaco and plays on counters which Valencia can barely join when he has no player ahead of him on his flank for past three seasons basically. He simply cant take the risks and lose the ball there. If Sidibe gets the ball to a similar standing position Valencia gets he will hardly take on players. Monaco press higher and gets to the ball much earlier than us. If LAV gets Willian in front of him and we play a high line his statistics go up for sure.Young doesn't play well on the right and Valencia has 7 assists these past 2 seasons. Sidibe has 16 assists the past two seasons. You're worried about HIS end product?
Yeah.
Well that`s good statistics if true, for a fullback for sure, but we all know that Mourinho doesn`t set up attackingly at all, compared to Monaco and plays on counters which Valencia can barely join when he has no player ahead of him on his flank for past three seasons basically. He simply cant take the risks and lose the ball there. If Sidibe gets the ball to a similar standing position Valencia gets he will hardly take on players. Monaco press higher and gets to the ball much earlier than us. If LAV gets Willian in front of him and we play a high line his statistics go up for sure.
And Young should be also in the mix, he will alternate between left and right if we get a leftback. And yeah he`s a bit better on the left because he can cut back and send a inverted cross for the players in second wave. He`s a bit ineffective on the right when we commit very few players forward in the first line..
I hear what you're saying but i don't agree with Tony not being able to join in attack. He goes forward all the time.Well that`s good statistics if true, for a fullback for sure, but we all know that Mourinho doesn`t set up attackingly at all, compared to Monaco and plays on counters which Valencia can barely join when he has no player ahead of him on his flank for past three seasons basically. He simply cant take the risks and lose the ball there. If Sidibe gets the ball to a similar standing position Valencia gets he will hardly take on players. Monaco press higher and gets to the ball much earlier than us. If LAV gets Willian in front of him and we play a high line his statistics go up for sure.
And Young should be also in the mix, he will alternate between left and right if we get a leftback. And yeah he`s a bit better on the left because he can cut back and send a inverted cross for the players in second wave. He`s a bit ineffective on the right when we commit very few players forward in the first line..
I hear what you're saying but i don't agree with Tony not being able to join in attack. He goes forward all the time.
His crossing needs improvement further, but definitely better than Valencia. And he's more creative than Valencia ever been. Can cut inside his weaker foot and play through ball, quick thinking to pick other options/combination options; than just 2 options mode: 1. running to the byline and cross; stand still if running by the byline is dead end then back pass when wasting lot of time letting opposition regroupIs he any good at crossing? because Valencia in recent years playing at RB has been very good defensively. But what is the main criticism of him?
His crossing!
Tony is still good defensively, has pace and is strong. Just going forward he is poor and literally doesn’t contribute much. So in order to improve we need a fullback who can cross! Not sure how good Sidebe is at defending and if he is better than Tony with that side of the game?
His crossing needs improvement further, but definitely better than Valencia. And he's more creative than Valencia ever been. Can cut inside his weaker foot and play through ball, quick thinking to pick other options/combination options; than just 2 options mode: 1. running to the byline and cross; stand still if running by the byline is dead end then back pass when wasting lot of time letting opposition regroup
That was my exact takeaway from his "highlight" videos. It wouldn't be an issue if Sidibe was a rock solid defensive fullback, but that clearly isn't the case judging by all of the comments I've seen. If we're going after an attacking fullback with iffy defense, I want an attacker with better technique than this.One thing that really worried me about the clip was how many times i saw sidibe take an extremely heavy touch and barely get to the ball and be out of control at that moment. Seemed like if he was like that in the EPL he would be losing the ball so many times, or going into challenges where more than likely he will be getting a card if he doesn't win the ball.
Ricardo vs Sidibé? Think Sidibé has been more consistent at Monaco than Ricardo at Nice, tbf with Ricardo he never played as fullback at youth level and in his first seasons at professional level, even if you watch some matches of the under 21's from Portugal in 2015 Ricardo and Cavaleiro were our front 2 forwards at the Euro under 21's
Manchester United is still in the Fabinho discussion. Talks with the entourage but still no concrete offer to the AS Monaco. Manchester United who has also positioned itself on Sidibe!
Perhaps as RB. Also think Atletico wants Fabinho as RB. Even if Atletico looks to replace Gabi it's more to do with Rodrigo signing so it makes no sense for them to get Fabinho if not for RB position. This can enable us to go for Sime Vrsaljko (Atletico RB).It looks like we are getting Fred, then why Fabinho as well?
I know he can play RB but his preferred position is CDM
We need two midfielders tbh.It looks like we are getting Fred, then why Fabinho as well?
I know he can play RB but his preferred position is CDM
With Gabi getting on, think they definitely want him as a midfielder.Perhaps as RB. Also think Atletico wants Fabinho as RB. This can enable us to go for Sime Vrsaljko (Atletico RB)
It looks like we are getting Fred, then why Fabinho as well?
I know he can play RB but his preferred position is CDM
They just signed Rodrigo. It's overcrowded with midfield option if Fabinho is signed and used exclusive as midfielder. Gabi may get eased off as stater but it's not like he's gone from first match dayWith Gabi getting on, think they definitely want him as a midfielder.