We probably won't sell because there are so many other players that need to be shifted first but I wouldn't be mad if we did. He rode the wave of being our 'best' player in a season where everyone else was miserably bad but I really don't think he's special at all. He'll end up being a squad player at best if we get the recruitment right
Diogo Dalot (Out)
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Malacia and shaw before Dalot for me. Malacia doesnt fit all anymore, Shaw would be excellent at lcb if he could put together atleast 40 games a season but he cant.
Madrid? maybe when Roberto Carlos asked for Shaw's autograph they thought it was Dalot.
It's more about opportunity, Shaw & Malacia we will make a loss on if we sell and it will worsen our FFP position, Dalot is someone we can generate some real room on FFP as he fully amortized so it's pure profit.
Malacia was 13m we probably have to sell him for around 7m to breakeven. Shaw's contract has long been amortized he has been with us for a decade. Any money we get will be a positive on the books.
I don't believe the likes of Madrid fancy him, but if we were able to get more than 40 million quid for him he would be straight out the door for me.
Who's going to give you £7m for Malacia? He hasn't played in 18 months and looked well off it just recently (As expected) with his wages in the 6 figures per week or just shy of? Even if we do shift for £7m it doesn't improve our FFP position, Shaw is the funniest one - On around £200k a week guaranteed for the next 2.5 years, if anyone is stupid enough to even pay £2m we will have to spend more than that paying off his contract in reality as nobody is going to give him close to that.
Because I don’t think hes very good and we could do with a replacement
Was one of 2 best players last season at the club, genuinely think he's been poor this season but that's largely due to being asked to play a position he doesn't excel at coupled with his attitude, desire, work rate and availability, I wouldn't sell him.
Last season we finished 8th
Not like you can sign players in a transfer window
Real they will buy a 20 year old Brazilian for 15m to fix this.
False flag story from Madrid to force Trent to push through for January.
Yes but surely you don't sell one of the best couple of performers first you sell the rest!
Given the injury-record of most our players, especially defenders, his fitness and availability alone is worth a lot to us. His versatility, a decent overall performance level, relatively low wages on a long contract - no need to consider selling him unless an offer of +£50m comes.
The quote on the BBC page isn't entirely accurate. The article itself from the original source just says that Madrid enquired about Dalot previously when Ten Hag was still in charge and were told he'd cost at least €50m. He's someone they're still looking at but there's no suggestion that they're actually going to make an offer.
A player can still play well, I agree the team wasn't enough but he played very well last year.
I’m all for selling him in the summer for €50m, if true, but it creates one more headache if we sell in Jan to find a replacement.
50 million euros isn't a lot of money in this day and age. No way i'd sell him for that.
He's been very good for a year of two and i think he fits in to an Amorim system very well at several positions.
He's been very good for a year of two and i think he fits in to an Amorim system very well at several positions.
When Madrid are waiting for the likes of Davies and Trent to run down their contracts like they did with Mbappe (all players significantly better than Dalot), I doubt they’d look to stump up a big fee for Dalot.
Surely you don’t consider a single season in terms of his performance over 5 years…
What about the last 5 years? If and big if you can get 40m for him you sell and replace him. Mazraoui is a much better player than him and we could use the funds to get a better fit for LWB
Not his biggest fan.... But why are we so hooked on selling players and making things harder for ourselves? Shaw injured again ffs...
At that price range if true you can surely get Ait Nouri or Robinson
Irespective of that, the idea Dalot is a player who is too good to sell for 50m euros is laughable. I would even sell him and play Amas if we had to wait till summer for a real replacement. Considering also that Mazroaui can easily play the position and is much better than Dalot too
Use the funds to sign a CB and put Maz LWB
Firstly no one is offering us €50m in Jan for Dalot. Again it creates a headache in Jan to go get Robinson or Ait Nouri. Why would those teams wants to sell mid season? Dalot would have had 2 months in a system. Amass wouldn’t have that. Maz is needed at CB since we can’t seem to have a full fit back up at CB. Shaw, Maguire, Lindelof are injured and Yoro is just coming back this week.
Maguire is back in training by the way, and the conversation is based on the if of the offer, which was my original post.
Wolves or Fulham would like sell if they get a really good offer. Again the whole conversation is based on getting that sort of fee for Dalot, who in my opinion needs to be replaced in the summer regardless because he just isn't good enough for where we want to be
EDIT: We also have the buy back clause on Carreras
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Why do you keep switching back and forth? You kept saying you would want him out in Jan and now you’re like he needs to replaced in the summer? I already told you I agree he needs to replaced in the summer if we get €50m for him but I’m against moving him on in Jan cause it creates more problems than solutions.
Just cause Maguire is back doesn’t mean he is fit or will be fit over the next 2-3 months. Look at Shaw. We need as many options as possible across the back 5 and bringing in a new player now will again create more problems. Also we will be in a better situation to negotiate with clubs in the summer cause the players contracts are running down.
I don't.
I said this.
That is not "I want him out in Jan" its if Madrid is interested sell him in Jan, the why is we can actually get in a player who can play the LWB position and is better than Dalot (who by the way is not a LWB)
He needs to be sold fullstop because he isn't good enough in my opinion, if there is opportunity to do it in Jan for that type of money (again my post started with an IF) then we should do it. Otherwise he can go in the summer.
We have a buy back on Carreras and there are other options we could use much more than Dalot, what I am saying isn't hard to follow
Yeah but no one is offering us anything to buy him in Jan. So what you’re saying a moot point.
So they are signing TAA for free and also signing Dalot for 50 mill. Make it make sense!
I like him and his energy on the right, but if we can bag even 30m him we should.
Over £40 million would be good business and allow us to sign a left footed leftback to replace Malacia if he isnt up to the task after playing a few games
I dont think it'll happen but would be fine with it.
I dont think it'll happen but would be fine with it.
Maguire 2-3 months ey
I said just cause he is fit now doesn’t mean he will be fit in 2-3 months. Surely what I am saying isn’t too hard to folllow eh?
Same goals for Dalot…
Surely you’re clutching at straws now to make a point. Maguire is far more injury prone than Dalot. We were specifically talking about Maguire coming back from a long injury layoff.
If the offers good I'd be tempted to sell. We've got too many fullbacks for a side who'll be playing 3-4-3. Dalot won't be creative enough for that role.
The latest is that TAA is talking about a contract renewal.
I think the fact he's being asked to play out of position is simply because the position he normally plays doesn't really exist in this system. That's a pretty good reason to sell a player while his value is still high. Ideally a right footed player with a similar skillset to Amad would be ideal.