He can't defend and I expect Laird to have a Williams like breakthrough next season. Sell.
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Agree, but left-footed players are harder to find.
According to Sports Witness, Sport have had an article claiming Barcelona also view Dalot as one of their right back targets and are looking to sign him.
Can't be that bad a player if PSG and Barca are after him?...
Can't be that bad a player if PSG and Barca are after him?...
Dalot can be a top player but needs a full season of football to find his rhythm.
We definitely need to sell. I can't imagine anyone paying more than 5 million for him. Jose was supposed to come in a build a world class defense but he turned his nose up at Van Dijk apparently, and bought Dalot, Bailly and Lindelof for big money. That's some poor spending right there for a bloke who is supposed to be a master at choosing top defenders.
We definitely need to sell. I can't imagine anyone paying more than 5 million for him. Jose was supposed to come in a build a world class defense but he turned his nose up at Van Dijk apparently, and bought Dalot, Bailly and Lindelof for big money. That's some poor spending right there for a bloke who is supposed to be a master at choosing top defenders.
Well Barca bought Semedo and have been trying to offload him since they did. Barca have a ton of misses in the transfer market in recent years.
Issue with Laird is his injuries. Selling backup and relying on a teenager who is having a lot of injury problems and has not featured for the first team is extremely dangerous.
Touche.
I'd like to see him stay. Don't see the sense in writing off a 21-year old that's had some injury issues. 35m is a good amount of cash though.
I dont think he's needed but he could yet become a very good attacking right sided player. Pretty good crosser, some speed and can dribble a bit. Not good defending but at 21 that could still come with experience.
£30 million is a decent amount of money for him at this stage if offered.
£30 million is a decent amount of money for him at this stage if offered.
Agree. Prefer to let him stay and fight for his place and push AWB to improve offensively. But if a decent offer comes in, or he is moody about playing time etc then we can get rid.
He seems like a good lad so I don't imagine that happening, but still he is young and I'm sure its frustrating to be so highly rated and then it not go as well as you planned.
I don't think anyone will pay for him more than 20 millions.
Anyway, I'd cash in on him. He is pretty average and his injury record is horrendous. All his atacking game is hugely overrated and talks about him playing as rw show how deluded some people are of him.
Diogo Dalot has played a total of 15.8% of available Premier League minutes since arriving at the club.
Laird is a much better prospect, yes, he also has his problems with injuries, but hopefully he will overcome them. People don't know how talented is he.
There is no point of sticking with Dalot if he plays 5 games a season in PL. Better give a chance to homegrown talent.
Anyway, I'd cash in on him. He is pretty average and his injury record is horrendous. All his atacking game is hugely overrated and talks about him playing as rw show how deluded some people are of him.
Diogo Dalot has played a total of 15.8% of available Premier League minutes since arriving at the club.
Laird is a much better prospect, yes, he also has his problems with injuries, but hopefully he will overcome them. People don't know how talented is he.
There is no point of sticking with Dalot if he plays 5 games a season in PL. Better give a chance to homegrown talent.
Oh, how many players was decent at youth level and then disapears? What Laird do or dont do in u19 or u21 is one thing. If he is ready for senior level is another. Some guys never step up. I dont say he will not, but we cannot gamble. I will glad if he will become regular Manutd player of course.
Dalot is better choice in this moment. More experienced. I am not convinced that he will be a class right back too but for now he is better option fo back up to AWB. At least he won that penalty vs PSG.
And if he leave i want more expirienced competition for AWB, not 18yo kidd. If Laird is that good he will get his chances and make through. Like Williams did. My point is Manutd cant afford to stay only with Laird and AWB if want to fight for trophys.James does the same thing Dalot does. Attacks, crosses and doesnt defend.
Oh, how many players was decent at youth level and then disapears? What Laird do or dont do in u19 or u21 is one thing. If he is ready for senior level is another. Some guys never step up. I dont say he will not, but we cannot gamble. I will glad if he will become regular Manutd player of course.
Dalot is better choice in this moment. More experienced. I am not convinced that he will be a class right back too but for now he is better option fo back up to AWB. At least he won that penalty vs PSG.
We gave this to Williams this season at 19, Laird is going to be 19 next season.
To me, if Ole wants to give Laird a chance like how he gave to Williams then I have no issue with it. Whether he'll disappear or no, it's not a bad idea to give young full back a chance. There are lot of young full backs play in men's game when they were young anyway. Worst case, Williams can play in the position or Tuanzebe can cover the spot.
If Ole wants to buy another right back for cover, I have no issue as well.
To me full backs are the easiest position to be covered compared to others. I'll leave it to the manager's decision for this. Beside, Nicky Butt got promoted as our head of first-team development. He's probably the one recommended the manager that Williams is ready to be given first team chance, I'm sure whether we'll decide to promote Laird or no is also taken into a serious discussion between Butt & Ole.
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I thought that at first too? But if he does mean DJ hahaThink he meant Reece James, I certainly hope so anyway
If clubs are going to be struggling as much as people think, there’s no way anyone pays £35 million for him. I don’t see how we can sell him though. AWB has been ever present this year and we’ve sold Young. We can’t go into a season one injury away from relying on a untested 18 year old being first choice in defence.
I agree. See a few mentioning Lairds injury problems I am unaware of.....but Dalot has had a fair few injuries as well. Anyway, even with that, remember we are talking about a SECOND choice right back as back up to Bissaka, that is why I would sell him as Bissaka is number one, Dalot will never replace him so let him leave
I like Dalot, and believe he has talent. I’m not sure where he fits into the picture long term, though. I certainly wouldn’t give him away, but if we could get a good price for him and put that money towards a prospect like Bellingham, for instance, I‘d be all for it.
Far too slow to be a good rb. No top speed and absolutely no acceleration. Wasn’t Henderson running away from him with the ball at one stage? Henderson, not frickin Mbappe!
If we are targeting Sancho, Partey, Bellingham and Upamecano we can sure do with 25m or so for Dalot. AWB is of similar age and we have Laird and Williams as backups. We rarely use wingbacks which is his best position.
We are talking about a backup player though. AWB is never injured and Axel and Williams can both play right back at a good level too. TFM is also still at the club. I think we have enough even if Laird gets injured.
And I just don't see it with Dalot. He's a bit of a liability defensively.
I don’t get current prices. €35m for Dalot sounds like complete madness.
I agree with this. He’s got a lot of potential and all the raw materials. I wouldn’t sell him now. He’s 21. I’m excited to see how he can develop.
Won't be missed much. Hard to see him making the grade here, based on how things have gone so far. Never mind 35m (which is absolutely bonkers), just give us Thomas Meunier and I'll drive the boy to Paris myself.
It seems madness to sell a young squad option, especially when his upside potential is very high and then we go back to having no backup. Dalot's biggest issues are injuries, he would play a significant amount if he was fit.
It should take a lot from a young player to make Jose sign him, no?
Also I feel like He is very underrated here. If We sell Dalot, how about We sell Dan James as well when Sancho comes since James is an inferior player? but you can see how the later doesn't seem right. Even if They both imply pretty much the same thing. Selling a young, talented squad option in a position We have been deprived of for years.
Also I feel like He is very underrated here. If We sell Dalot, how about We sell Dan James as well when Sancho comes since James is an inferior player? but you can see how the later doesn't seem right. Even if They both imply pretty much the same thing. Selling a young, talented squad option in a position We have been deprived of for years.
Difference is James has shown attributes to be a good player, we can see qualities such as his speed, his effectiveness in big games playing on the counter and his defensive work rate. There's a lot of room for a player like him in the squad.
With Dalot I struggle to see any strengths - he's not that fast, he's poor defensively and his crossing is mediocre.
Impossible for us to say anything of his talent, as he hasn't really had a consistent run to develop since he signed. Offensively, he's been shown to be quite decent, and did offer some decent crosses from time to time, but defensively iffy. Maybe he could morph into a RW over time, which is probably easier for him than learning to defend, in which case, he'd be a good backup to whoever we sign. It's a difficult one. Don't want him to leave, because I think he can be real quality, but also don't want to see a young player stagnate and watch his career waste away.
Also, those calling him slow, weren't a few United players discussing how surprisingly quick Dalot was in some interview? Don't remember the details.
Also, those calling him slow, weren't a few United players discussing how surprisingly quick Dalot was in some interview? Don't remember the details.
Of course, Dan James is clearly better with more game time under his belt. But if you compare him with Sancho He will still be useless. The same way people see Dalot as pointless since Bissaka came.
But I would rather give Dalot more time than regretting our decision once again if Dalon turns out to be good for PSG. Don't let one season of AWB good performances and excellent injury record blind us.
PSG aren't stupid. If They want to pay 35m then They must have seen Dalot as a good offensive Right Back. The type of Right Back We've never had since Valencia became our RB. Edit : It's probably going to be less than 35m Euros anyway.
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People are out of their mind if they wouldn't sell him for 35m euros, we would be lucky to get what we paid for him given what he has shown since he came here
He’s very skillful and elegant, rarely so for a full back. I like him and think his talent is obvious, and could quite easily see him becoming a great player.
I like this guy. He destroyed that PSG left back when we played them. He’s one of the very few United players who can actually perform step overs and get into attacking areas. Crossing can be improved mind you but the venom is there
Too bad about injuries. That combined with the beast that is AWB and it’s not looking too good for him at RB. Maybe he should go RW if nothing materialises in the summer. We’ll see but if he goes I need that buy back clause.
Too bad about injuries. That combined with the beast that is AWB and it’s not looking too good for him at RB. Maybe he should go RW if nothing materialises in the summer. We’ll see but if he goes I need that buy back clause.
35m for a back up full back who may or may not be a decent player? Go on then.
He's been here for almost 2 years now and I've seen nothing from him to be honest.
Where's this idea he's good going forward coming from by the way? His crossing is crap for a start.
Very injury prone too.
Wouldn't be heartbroken if he was sold.
Where's this idea he's good going forward coming from by the way? His crossing is crap for a start.
Very injury prone too.
Wouldn't be heartbroken if he was sold.
Mmm.... this is not an easy one. If the £35m euro figure is correct, then that would be very, very tempting for a player who hasn't played much for us since he arrived.
There are some "ifs". If Laird comes through and if AWB doesn't get injured, then we're OK. Otherwise, there will be complaints we sold our backup RB for pecuniary reasons leaving no cover.
Dalot is a case of a player impacted by changes of circumstance. Aged 19, he was flagged as a future prospect rather than for regular first team use when we bought him - which seemed very unlike Mourinho at the time, but maybe he was seen as the successor to an ageing Valencia given that Darmian was so out of favour, add to that he's Portuguese and played for Porto. The obvious solution at the time would have been to retire Valencia and look for an immediate replacement at RB, but the mind-boggling strategy on recruitment between Mourinho and the club, and the relationships between Mourinho and players, is history now.
By the time that issue was resolved with the arrival of AWB, Dalot had an injury problem. Paris aside, he's looked pretty non-descript in the few matches he's played - all you can say is that he's more attacking than AWB (although that's improving) and definitely weaker defensively and maybe should be a winger rather than RB. For certain, he needs a full season with a decent number of games to show whether he's good enough, for whatever reason he hasn't had a real chance yet.
There are other possible backups - Bailly (bought partly for his versatility), Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah (clocked by Opta as the fastest player in the EPL last season at Fulham) can all play at RB, however, all have had long injury absences as well.
On balance, if the 35m figure is true, sell and put the money to good use. If the real figure is much lower (or the whole thing is journalist hype), hold on to him and give him a chance to prove himself, maybe more as a winger.
There are some "ifs". If Laird comes through and if AWB doesn't get injured, then we're OK. Otherwise, there will be complaints we sold our backup RB for pecuniary reasons leaving no cover.
Dalot is a case of a player impacted by changes of circumstance. Aged 19, he was flagged as a future prospect rather than for regular first team use when we bought him - which seemed very unlike Mourinho at the time, but maybe he was seen as the successor to an ageing Valencia given that Darmian was so out of favour, add to that he's Portuguese and played for Porto. The obvious solution at the time would have been to retire Valencia and look for an immediate replacement at RB, but the mind-boggling strategy on recruitment between Mourinho and the club, and the relationships between Mourinho and players, is history now.
By the time that issue was resolved with the arrival of AWB, Dalot had an injury problem. Paris aside, he's looked pretty non-descript in the few matches he's played - all you can say is that he's more attacking than AWB (although that's improving) and definitely weaker defensively and maybe should be a winger rather than RB. For certain, he needs a full season with a decent number of games to show whether he's good enough, for whatever reason he hasn't had a real chance yet.
There are other possible backups - Bailly (bought partly for his versatility), Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah (clocked by Opta as the fastest player in the EPL last season at Fulham) can all play at RB, however, all have had long injury absences as well.
On balance, if the 35m figure is true, sell and put the money to good use. If the real figure is much lower (or the whole thing is journalist hype), hold on to him and give him a chance to prove himself, maybe more as a winger.
I like him and you need capable backups. Unless Laird is ready to step in as backup RB to rest AWB/fill in for injuries, then selling him achieves nothing. Long term yeah Laird will likely just step in for him and Dalot goes somewhere else, but I'd keep another year.
I agree with this. It gives everyone a chance to compete for the spot when they are all fit too. Take it from there before selling. We’ve no idea how good Dalot could be. Even if he’s a potentially great footballer if he’s always injured then he’s no real use to us and he won’t be able to kick on anyway if he doesn’t spend ample time on the pitch. I’d say give him one more season to fight for it
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