Wouldn't surprise me if Dorgu played on the right with Amad as a 10 on that side so there could be some serious link up play.It’s really odd that we’ve just signed another left back who’s 2/3 years older than this guy. We’ve also got Amass who’s one of our most highly rated prospects in the same position.
3 highly rated talents fighting it out for one position is gonna hamper their growth you’d imagine.
Wouldn't surprise me if Dorgu played on the right with Amad as a 10 on that side so there could be some serious link up play.
Maybe they might loan out Amass next season and cash in on him afterwards;
I hope they don't as I think he looks a top prospect but I would think it depends on the fitness of Luke for the rest of this season and the start of the next.
I think we'll be able to play Dorgu plus one of Amass and Leon if we want to given Dorgu's versatility. That doesn't sound too bad.My concern is having 3 youngsters competing against each other. Traditionally, and certainly in SAF’s teams, you have a youngster competing against a seasoned pro and learning from them.
Despite the whole ‘survival of the fittest’ or whatever, I don’t see how this won’t hamper the growth of some top talents. I also think Amass will be the loser in this situation, which would certainly suck.
If Leon is as good as the hype suggests, it surely would have made more sense to bring in an experienced left back rather than another still learning his trade.
We have a lot of concerns. One omission playing youbg players too much, causing burn-out. The other is game time and the third being competition. So by havibg three options we can prevent early burn-out and, we ensure competition. One or two may be versatile enough to be used in a different position as well.My concern is having 3 youngsters competing against each other. Traditionally, and certainly in SAF’s teams, you have a youngster competing against a seasoned pro and learning from them.
Despite the whole ‘survival of the fittest’ or whatever, I don’t see how this won’t hamper the growth of some top talents. I also think Amass will be the loser in this situation, which would certainly suck.
If Leon is as good as the hype suggests, it surely would have made more sense to bring in an experienced left back rather than another still learning his trade.
Dorgu is 20, he turns 21 in October.We have a lot of concerns. One omission playing youbg players too much, causing burn-out. The other is game time and the third being competition. So by havibg three options we can prevent early burn-out and, we ensure competition. One or two may be versatile enough to be used in a different position as well.
I don’t see much of an issue. Amass appears not to be physically ready, yet. Doegu is 22? Quite a difference physically and tactically between a 17 and 21 year old.
My concern is having 3 youngsters competing against each other. Traditionally, and certainly in SAF’s teams, you have a youngster competing against a seasoned pro and learning from them.
Despite the whole ‘survival of the fittest’ or whatever, I don’t see how this won’t hamper the growth of some top talents. I also think Amass will be the loser in this situation, which would certainly suck.
If Leon is as good as the hype suggests, it surely would have made more sense to bring in an experienced left back rather than another still learning his trade.
Thanks, but 3 years of development at that age is normally still a massive difference maker.Dorgu is 20, he turns 21 in October.
It’s really odd that we’ve just signed another left back who’s 2/3 years older than this guy. We’ve also got Amass who’s one of our most highly rated prospects in the same position.
3 highly rated talents fighting it out for one position is gonna hamper their growth you’d imagine.
He might be one we sell on for profit. We could have that long term strategy
My concern is having 3 youngsters competing against each other. Traditionally, and certainly in SAF’s teams, you have a youngster competing against a seasoned pro and learning from them.
Despite the whole ‘survival of the fittest’ or whatever, I don’t see how this won’t hamper the growth of some top talents. I also think Amass will be the loser in this situation, which would certainly suck.
If Leon is as good as the hype suggests, it surely would have made more sense to bring in an experienced left back rather than another still learning his trade.
That's also why I believe United will look at 3/4 wing backs. Dorgu is probably preferred over other options as he can help out al LWB as well as RWB. You can have Leon and Amass fight for a place in the future & sell at least 1 for profits if they are not completely what we hope they'd be.There are positions were experience is certainly key while others were you need legs. The wing back role is more of the latter then the former. The wingback role require the player to constantly go up and down the pitch, delivering crosses and cutting inside to help the forwards. Its an incredibly labor intensive role. In fact Gaz once said that even in his prime he wouldn't be able to do it himself because he lacked the stamina to do so. There's a certain defensive element to it of course. However its not as critical as that of a FB in a 4 men defense due to the extra man in the 5 men defense who'll be expected to mop things up on the wingback behalf.
That's also why I believe United will look at 3/4 wing backs. Dorgu is probably preferred over other options as he can help out al LWB as well as RWB. You can have Leon and Amass fight for a place in the future & sell at least 1 for profits if they are not completely what we hope they'd be.
These types of deals give lots of possibilities. We're signing the likes of Leon & Heaven as punts. Either they succeed or they get sold for profits, helping United make transfers elsewhere & not getting in the mess they are in right now. It's what all well run clubs are doing.
I think if Shaw gets fit again we'll mainly see him as a LCB. Should put less stress on his body, and he's good enough on the ball to bring it out. It means he's in direct competition with Martinez though, who's really shown his worth recently.In my opinion Amorim is trying to add physicality and athleticism in defense. Dorgu fits that criteria but it rules Luke Shaw (too fragile) and Malacia (5ft7) out. Hence why Diego Leon fit the narrative. He's built like a tank and there's plenty of gas in that tank.
He'll get his chance i guessIts still early days but I doubt it. We're bringing in Dorgu + we're trying to get rid of Malacia. That means that the cover role is up for grabs.
Agreed. Combined with a younger age + lower salary, meaning players still want to 'grow'. Leon and Dorgu would want to break through, make a good career and earn a higher salary. I think it's a healthy way to look at signings.In my opinion Amorim is trying to add physicality and athleticism in defense. Dorgu fits that criteria but it rules Luke Shaw (too fragile) and Malacia (5ft7) out. Hence why Diego Leon fit the narrative. He's built like a tank and there's plenty of gas in that tank.
I don't think Amass will make it, he just doesn't have the physicality and still has a lot to do with regards to defending.My concern is having 3 youngsters competing against each other. Traditionally, and certainly in SAF’s teams, you have a youngster competing against a seasoned pro and learning from them.
Despite the whole ‘survival of the fittest’ or whatever, I don’t see how this won’t hamper the growth of some top talents. I also think Amass will be the loser in this situation, which would certainly suck.
If Leon is as good as the hype suggests, it surely would have made more sense to bring in an experienced left back rather than another still learning his trade.
I doubt Amass will make it in Amorim's system. I just don't think he has the level of physicality of the other two.Yea but Diego Leon is only 17 and I believe Amass is the same age. You'd expect they are a few years away from being ready if they are going to make it here.
I believe Dorgu can play RWB too which can give us options.
I don't think Amass will make it, he just doesn't have the physicality and still has a lot to do with regards to defending.
I think physicality includes pace though and its the one orange flag I'd have against Amass because last year I'd have said he was one of my top 3 academy talents and almost a dead cert to play for the United team. Not sure if he's kicked on or been as impressive this year and when I look at him, though he reminds me so much of Luke Shaw in the way he plays, the bits that are different are Shaw's pace and enormous strength. He can definitely get stronger but hard to see him being much faster. Its not exactly a death knell but these factors and the move to a wing back system which is more physically demanding make it a challenge for him. Really hope he has a leap because he looks a better footballer than Dorgu and Diego Leon to me based on the footage I've seen.Maybe, but I think physicality is the last thing to be judging any 17 year old on.
I think physicality includes pace though and its the one orange flag I'd have against Amass because last year I'd have said he was one of my top 3 academy talents and almost a dead cert to play for the United team. Not sure if he's kicked on or been as impressive this year and when I look at him, though he reminds me so much of Luke Shaw in the way he plays, the bits that are different are Shaw's pace and enormous strength. He can definitely get stronger but hard to see him being much faster. Its not exactly a death knell but these factors and the move to a wing back system which is more physically demanding make it a challenge for him. Really hope he has a leap because he looks a better footballer than Dorgu and Diego Leon to me based on the footage I've seen.
