We wasted much more last season.
Did we waste €200 million this summer?
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Jury is out but currently I'd say we've blown the budget on players that aren't the quality to improve us.
Yeah fair points. I think there was probably a deal to be done for £35m for Raya before the start of the season, but then thats also based wholly on me putting my finger in the air.
Judging by what we saw from the new signings up until now it must be a yes, but fortunately the season is long and we may see improvements especially in the 3 costly transfers.
And who said that we did? But we did spend 200 mil euros.
We certainly wasted some money.
Mount is never a £55-60 million player with one year left on his contract.
Hojlund with his 10 Serie A goals is never a £70 million striker.
Onana is probably about right. Could have been cheaper considering Inter paid nothing for him and he wanted to leave, but our negotiation team is next to hopeless so 44m is alright I guess.
Mount is never a £55-60 million player with one year left on his contract.
Hojlund with his 10 Serie A goals is never a £70 million striker.
Onana is probably about right. Could have been cheaper considering Inter paid nothing for him and he wanted to leave, but our negotiation team is next to hopeless so 44m is alright I guess.
No. They were players signed at a very good age in positions where we needed players and who are very talented on & off the ball. They'll be important regardless of manager, and at least if they all flop, they'd have resale value in 3 years still due to the age. Which is why we should always buy younger players who are approaching their peaks.
For whom?? Rashford?? Martial?
We don't really do resale at a good value. They come here and their value immediately halves. It's like buying a car.
In addition to a new main striker. You know, what our priority was going into the window.
Exactly this. Overall the signings und
He was available on a free last summer. Reya was available for half the price and is almost as good on the ball. Now Arsenal number 1.
Regardless of whether he was free or not, we wanted to keep De Gea then. Also, he'd agreed terms with Inter already before the summer.
Additionally, Chelsea had no trouble getting rid of Mount. Man Utd beat out Arsenal and Liverpool to his signature.
Pavlidis and Gimenez would both have been under 25m.
Sure. And we hold onto players for forever when we know they're flops so it's pointless anyway. But still a useful point in case we figure our shit out down the line.
Generally though I'm not too concerned about them being flops. I like them all as players for what we need/needed and the age profile with the potential they have. Hojlund was biggest cost but is a CF who has shown a lot of promising parts to his game, it'll just take time with him. Mount is the only one where the position wasn't clear but I at least have liked what I've seen from him on the pitch, at both ends of the pitch and we could use more of our players having his level of fight and reliability on the ball.
ETH signings have all been awful.
Martinez aside you could take any of them out of the team tomorrow and I wouldn’t care. We’ve signed a bunch of average players for top end prices.
Martinez aside you could take any of them out of the team tomorrow and I wouldn’t care. We’ve signed a bunch of average players for top end prices.
The thread title did?And who said that we did? But we did spend 200 mil euros.
Massively overpaid for Hojlund and Onana, and essentially burned 50m+ in Mount. Was a shockingly bad transfer window.
Worse than that since SAF only Bruno and Shaw have been what you'd call successful signings for me and even they haven't been resounding successes either. I think every other signing has been a failure or, at the very least, have question marks over them. How the club haven't worked this out and rectified how we scout and buy players is incredibly baffling and incompetent.
Yes and Luuk de Jong would have been even cheaper!
You have to stop fixating on spending, even more so on signings that have been here 5 minutes.
Nothing will ever change quickly.
What is 50-60 million today is not want it was 2-3 years ago.
Just forget about the money spent.
Nothing will ever change quickly.
What is 50-60 million today is not want it was 2-3 years ago.
Just forget about the money spent.
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I wouldn't care if we were City or PSG. But we're not.
Every single penny must be spent wisely because you never know when the Glazers will tighten the purse strings and then we'll have one of those 'no value in the market' summers again.
We didn't have that kind of money this summer. A big name striker would have cost more than 100M or even much more.
Yes and no. We signed players that aren't ready and we're gambling on them being ready in about 5 games, on top of that we signed Mount who is a nothing player unless he's playing against Palace's B side. Antony isn't a good player so unless he has a brain transplant we've wasted that money and are stuck with him, thankfully he seems like the kind of guy that will force a move if he gets dropped though.
Our overspending on average players is precisely why we aren’t performing on the pitch and don’t have the funds to fix the issue.
We’ve recruited terribly for years, Onana is a decent keeper but nothing special and we overpaid for him. Mount is a player we didn’t really need and again we overpaid. Hojlund is an unknown quantity but again we overpaid so for what we spent we haven’t got a great return.
The signings last summer weren’t great either, huge amount spent on Anthony who is nowhere near being an 80m player and spending so much on Casemiro at that stage of his career was very indulgent and short sighted.
We don’t buy anyone that is exceptional irrespective of how much we spend, it’s years and years of bad recruitment that just gets harder and harder to correct.
Said before until we start spreading our money around and spreading the risk we’ve got no chance. We are continuing policy of spending huge sums on a few players when there are so many issues to resolve. Ole spoke recently about us not buying Caceido becuae we needed players for here and now or words to that effect. There’s no plan beyond a couple of big signings and expecting that to fix all our problems.
The signings last summer weren’t great either, huge amount spent on Anthony who is nowhere near being an 80m player and spending so much on Casemiro at that stage of his career was very indulgent and short sighted.
We don’t buy anyone that is exceptional irrespective of how much we spend, it’s years and years of bad recruitment that just gets harder and harder to correct.
Said before until we start spreading our money around and spreading the risk we’ve got no chance. We are continuing policy of spending huge sums on a few players when there are so many issues to resolve. Ole spoke recently about us not buying Caceido becuae we needed players for here and now or words to that effect. There’s no plan beyond a couple of big signings and expecting that to fix all our problems.
No, he wasn't. Onana to Inter was done by late 2021/early 2022. I've seen this argument being made several times but it's factually incorrect.
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Said it throughout summer it was a 5/10 window. The signings never addressed the major squad issues aside maybe Hojlund and even then he's an unproven youth prospect. It was a terrible summer that reflected the managers change of directive. United should have built on looking for an Eriksen replacement, someone who can distribute the ball from deep areas allowing Bruno further forward to play more definitive passes to the front men. Instead United have a water carrier in Mount who I think is a good player but only when playing closer to the opponents goal.
The real undoing this season has been EtH decision to make this a transition team. He doesn't have the players, there wasn't enough of a budget and the plan to make that change has caused the team to become more disjointed especially linking the midfield to the attack. The xG is an absolute load of rubbish, all the chances United create aren't clear cut, they are half chances almost every single time the ball flashing across the 6 yard area there's no structure to the teams attack and the midfields ability to create and exploit spaces.
The real undoing this season has been EtH decision to make this a transition team. He doesn't have the players, there wasn't enough of a budget and the plan to make that change has caused the team to become more disjointed especially linking the midfield to the attack. The xG is an absolute load of rubbish, all the chances United create aren't clear cut, they are half chances almost every single time the ball flashing across the 6 yard area there's no structure to the teams attack and the midfields ability to create and exploit spaces.
meh. We need to do better scouting in south america, and find good players with good release clauses. Could help us with our transfer budgets as well. Onana should hopefully come good, just no idea why we buy him when 1- we dont have the players in front of him to play that fearless out of the back style, and 2- we seem to be telling him to just stay on his line and not come out/move the ball around with pace.
Midfield was never a huge fan of mount, but i will at least give him time. Hojlund was arguable the best CF prospect/player we could realistically get (cut it with the kane shit no way levy sells to us without literally taking every last dime the cheap ass owners could afford to shell out). Rest of our business was mainly loanings/cheap freebies type players.
Midfield was never a huge fan of mount, but i will at least give him time. Hojlund was arguable the best CF prospect/player we could realistically get (cut it with the kane shit no way levy sells to us without literally taking every last dime the cheap ass owners could afford to shell out). Rest of our business was mainly loanings/cheap freebies type players.
What does this mean to you? What is a "transition team".
When we become less shit, Onana will be worth it.
Rasmus is young, and once he gets played in a bit more (Rashford needs dropping) I'm hoping he too will be worth it.
Amrabat - play him in his correct position and he will be 1000000% worth it.
Mount - complete and utter waste of £50m, wasn't needed or let's be honest, unwanted.
Rasmus is young, and once he gets played in a bit more (Rashford needs dropping) I'm hoping he too will be worth it.
Amrabat - play him in his correct position and he will be 1000000% worth it.
Mount - complete and utter waste of £50m, wasn't needed or let's be honest, unwanted.
I kind of agree, but isn't this a bit of a chicken or egg scenario?
Which do you bring in first, the keeper who can play out of the back, or the back four, and midfield, who are comfortable in doing so?
Re Hojland, way too raw and no real proven record at Atalanta. He was playing upfront with Zapata. Coming into the PL and playing in the center of a 3 is a huge step up.
You can just tell his touch and decision making on his runs are not there yet. He needs to learn to attack the space and not get drawn towards the ball.
What exactly is mironic about saying we shouldn't focus on the transfer fees for players that have been here a whopping 5-6 games?
Did it, really? I don't think it did.
Yes
For me id put the pieces in place around the gk, and sign the goalkeeper as the last option. But our mids not show for the ball, and most of our defenders just pass it straight back to onana doesnt really make sense to me.
And yeah i mean who else at CF could we have gone for that would have been worth it? The options were severely limited. I like what hojlund has done so far. He is just back from injury not too long ago, has had ball in back of net but called back/cleared off the line. He attacks the space in behind pretty well. On the ball he needs some work, but still early days for sure
I'm writing him off after not rating him at Chelsea for years.
Despite him winning their player of the year multiple times?
On paper it was okay but then our full back line and form got decimated. Kim I would have added and paid less for Hojlund…
Otherwise I don’t know who else I would have signed as we looked decent last season. Hindsight is a beautiful thing but we all agreed at the time Onana was a decent buy given last seasons form?
Ten Hag wanted Mount… okay sure might work. Amrabat seems a good signing too.
Hojlund was a mess in my opinion but we didn’t sign Kane. It was just a hard summer tbf as we couldn’t sign Bellingham for example who was obvious a hole in one or Kane. It’s a tough market.
Another season we’d have outbid Bayern almost certainly for both Kim and Kane so timing was awful for that with FFP and the club “sale”.
Otherwise I don’t know who else I would have signed as we looked decent last season. Hindsight is a beautiful thing but we all agreed at the time Onana was a decent buy given last seasons form?
Ten Hag wanted Mount… okay sure might work. Amrabat seems a good signing too.
Hojlund was a mess in my opinion but we didn’t sign Kane. It was just a hard summer tbf as we couldn’t sign Bellingham for example who was obvious a hole in one or Kane. It’s a tough market.
Another season we’d have outbid Bayern almost certainly for both Kim and Kane so timing was awful for that with FFP and the club “sale”.
All the signings -apart from possibly Mount- made sense but aside from Onana and his ability on the ball I wouldn't say there was anything there that would transform a side that just about gets top 4 to a side that gets a lot closer to Arsenal and City. Signing Kane was an impossibility but I just feel we placed a huge burden on Hojlund to transform a team that has struggled for goals for the past two years. At least get a competent and experienced second striker to help the kid out.
Not a bad summer in terms of player quality, just not a great or transformative one either. If the goal is to get closer to something like a title challenge or 80 points then it does feel a bit wasteful.
Not a bad summer in terms of player quality, just not a great or transformative one either. If the goal is to get closer to something like a title challenge or 80 points then it does feel a bit wasteful.
Onana - We definitely needed a new goalkeeper. He has been a bit erratic at times but he's new so he can stay for now.
Evans - Good backup I guess.
Amrabat - Good signing, should be starting every game.
Mount - No way we should've signed him.
Hojlund - Potential is there, but we should've signed Kane.
Evans - Good backup I guess.
Amrabat - Good signing, should be starting every game.
Mount - No way we should've signed him.
Hojlund - Potential is there, but we should've signed Kane.