He's quite sexy. I like his beard.
Di Marzio
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Good work with the thread research! He was on their quite early (page 66 out of 1091 is pretty early on I think) and people look to him to confirm these transfers and to follow up regularly on their development. Even guys like Palmeri would make a bold statement and eventually it could turn out right but like a previous poster said, Di Marzio provides nuanced details and updates more so than many other journos.
Hes not perfect, thats impossible, but hes as credible as they get.
Looks like an Italian Andy Tate to me.
I'd say Luckhurst is more Joffrey - A petulant twat who thinks he's footballing ITK royalty and spews bullshit most of the time, then throws his toys out of the pram when he's called out on it. Rose to prominence in dodgy/ unknown circumstances. In the words of Reddit, a "shit-stirring bellend"*. He's only just above the IndyKaila (aka Ramsay Bolton) tier, who is renowned for ruthlessly fecking with fans' minds in the most unimaginable and heinous of ways.
*Transfer Reliability Guide
Spot on with Di Marzio and Varys the eunuch though.
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He's an above average transfer specialist and has a decent reliability considering the amount of transfer gossip he publishes.
Him being considered as a god among Utd fans is a bit too much, just as him being considered a major bullshitter in PSG circles due to a less than stellar success rate is exagerrated.
Him being considered as a god among Utd fans is a bit too much, just as him being considered a major bullshitter in PSG circles due to a less than stellar success rate is exagerrated.
RMC are reliable Bouhafsi is just an employee, an highly ranked, most reporters were at RMC when he joined and they were already reliable.
Sign him up @RedCafe
In the vast gulf between a formal press announcement and complete hot air, Di Marzio is much nearer the former because of his position at Sky Sport and personal network. He is more similar to Wojnarowski for the NBA than your local newspaper intern in the cubicle (who on the other hand may be really good at spotting players near local surgeries or hotels)
seems to be good for you guys. Doesn't have quite as stellar a track record elsewhere.
He's pretty accurate actually. As a general rule, if he reports something, it's happening. The only transfer i remember where he was out of the loop was Andre Gomes to Barcelona last summer
Also, i can't find the video of him from the 2006 WC win, where he and two other sky journos got drunk and lost their sh*t and ended up stealing the official WC mascot
But do you have truth he was the first to break the story? As I'm pretty sure as soon as Jose was linked with us in December there were stories of he'll get Pogba.
Darmian was being linked before LVG even took over.
The truth is look hard enough and someone will have mentioned it before hand. DiMarzio waits until he has solid information and I prefer that than some guy putting two and two together.
Fan boys
This is fantastic!
I think some people support Di Marzio more than they support Man Utd
He he. Although sometimes it looks that way.
He he. Although sometimes it looks that way.
Excellent link.
Don't worry, virtual effigies will be burnt and abuses will be thrown by fan boys and anti fanboys alike when inevitably some thing doesn't quite work out.
Quantifying whether an ITK is FOS or not is like trying to get a definitive answer on the existence of god.
Can you link me to Di Marzio café please?
I absolutely love how people get mental about him lately and try to discredit him with just anything.
The important thing to remember is that when he says something could potentially happen, doesn't mean the player's already signed the contract and everything's done and dusted. Sometimes negotiations break down, the asking price could be too high or the club doesn't not want to sell. That doesn't mean the messenger was wrong about our interest and desire to sign, it's just sometimes the deal doesn't happen.
That is all, of course, true. Sometimes you can just be plain wrong, though.
Nice.. Couldn't help but notice that German sources are pretty reliable, while tier 4 and 5 are mostly filled with English and Spanish outlets. Or maybe we simply have more knowledge of English media in general?
Decent list, although no list can ever by fully accurate since the dynamics of who knows what are always changing.
Its good that they update it. My point was that there can always be certain one off situations where journalists have a close relationship with a certain player, agent, or club. Castles for example is constantly regarded as being close to Mourinho (for some reason or the other). More importantly, journos themselves are only passing along information they get from their sources. In the transfer world, that information could be completely wrong depending on the specifics of whether a player agrees to a transfer or if the buying and selling club have a disagreement on the fee. There are specifcs that journos may never know about so its good to not follow any journalist religiously as if they are some sort of oracle of what's actually going on.
I'm a big /r/reddevils user. I actually think that is the beauty of their tier system.
1. The good journos rise to the top, making discussion less debated and stop endless "what if" posting
2. The tier system is always moving, meaning the better a journo becomes, the more clicks their articles get, the more they get an online following for accuracy, thus enforcing a standard
3. You can provide evidence to the moderator to argue why a journo should move up and down tiers, making it less likely for misses. Hence, i believe it was "Sky news tweets" actually were demoted for an increasing number of crap rumours.
4. You can still post about tier 3,4,5 journos in a dedicated thread, meaning if a low-tier journo actually gets a scoop it's still discussed, thus giving them the ability to build up credibility and not miss out on a scoop.
I agree it's not a perfect system but i think it's the best system i've seen so far to deal with click merchants that just say nothing for ad revenue.
If you could assist me in making this work, then we can have a same system for this forum too. Atleast we can try.
Wojnarowski is on a completely different level at this stage, although I get what you're saying.
i'm not a mod for /r/reddevils or anything like that, but it's basically my daily subreddit to follow everything MUFC. I'd love to help in some way to implement a tier system on here.
The only difficulty i see is making users adapt to the tier system. So for example, Tier 3 and below on the subreddit are auto-removed with an explanation, but that content can be posted in a "transfer round up and discussion" thread. My concerns with implementing that on a forum is that we'd get instant crossover with members not reading the tier-list and the staff on here would have a nightmare going through each thread.
What i was thinking might be a good start would be to take the subreddit tier list and making it a pinned post, giving that some time to sink in. Then down the track implementing some kind of system to allow "tier 3 and 4" rumours to fill up in a thread, whilst allowing tier 1 and 2 posts to remain in player threads?
Again that's just right off the top of my head.
Hmm just had a look, decent but Mitten and Castles are two tiers too low. Both are very good journalists with great connections to United. L'Equipe are too high.
Don't think Mitten knows anything since Fergie retired and the old structure at the club left. His articles are full of fluff with random odd details included to make it seem like knows more than he knows.
We can start bit by bit. First by manually tag the post on the title. If you were to post an article from Simon Stone, for example, put the title of the post followed by "| Tier 1" on the title. Maybe we can start off by adopting the Transfer Reliability Guide from /r/reddevils.
Then, we can have a specific thread to discuss our own guide. Whether or not we agree with their tier system. For example, Duncan Castles is Tier 5 over there. If you disagree, then you can come up with your arguments/proof why he should be rated higher. Everyone can participate in the discussion. After that, probably the moderators can vote among themselves whether to upgrade/downgrade him to other tier or not. Or maybe change of tier can only be made by the approval of at least 3 related mods, etc.
Edit: If everything works well, then we can think what to do next. Sticky Tier 1 and 2, remove post from Tier 5 etc.
I like the idea but yeah, I can definitely see the implementation being a problem. Just look at any thread with negative news (i.e. United player being sold; United not interested in a player). Half of the replies are spam from posters instantly dismissing it as made-up bullshit.
If we do sign Lukaku and not Morata, then it seems Di Marzio was off the mark on this one. Probably means we shouldn't put too much weight in the reported deals being worked for Perisic and Fabinho as well? Could be Ed is working behind smokescreens this summer.
I don't think so. We were clearly working on a deal and it was close to being finalised. We just couldn't get over that final hurdle and Everton seemed more willing to do business it seemed.
I can't recall but has he ever explicitly said the deal had been finalised?
No he hasn't but my point is more towards the deals he reported we were working upon, Perisic and Fabinho, maybe those have been smokescreens as well and not necessarily the guys we really are after.
It's not smokescreens. It's United having multiple targets for each position because only having one target would give the selling club all the power.
It's just common sense. You probably do the same thing when you make big purchases in your own life, look at the market, compare prices etc.
It's just common sense. You probably do the same thing when you make big purchases in your own life, look at the market, compare prices etc.
We for sure were working on both deals and now, we went for the one player whos club wanted to sell for a certain price.
We have only been linked with Perisic seriously when it comes to a winger this summer. So it suggest to me that's the only information that the club has allowed these sources to glean. Same with Lukaku, it come out of nowhere as we were seriously linked to Morata in the press, not Lukaku as much. I label this as smokescreens only.