There isn't a lack of quotes. See above.
Di Marzio: Barca make bid for Pogba
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There isn't a lack of quotes. See above.
Pulling shit? Fanbase suicidal..
Car crash of a post.
Says somebody who spent the last year going 27 is the new 43.
Its 29 (Redcafe dreaded age) and you really think I was serious about it?
Now that the board has basically said the same, I am sure none of you were serious about it.
Eeerm what?
You really expected there to be direct quotes? There were no quotes for the transfer stories that were on the BBC etc last week, but, we still discussed them.
Stories like this will almost certainly never have direct quotes. Journos will get told stuff all the time 'off the record' with the understanding that their sources WON'T be quoted.
If they were, they will probably never give any info again - see Fergie and Bob Cass.
Custis, I think is fairly decent, he always gets called out, but has had a few stories in the past (Neymar being one).
It's The Sun. Relax.
If we sell him you can forget about winning anything this season, we will be rinsed on a replacement that won't be as good, simple as. If makes no sense selling him. The mess that has been created routes from Jose still, Paul wants out because of this in my opinion. This is one last veiled attempt by Pogba in the last week to leave, he has been disgraceful too. The club are anything but United at the moment. We have the board not backing the manager, manager annoyed at Ed. Martial and Pogba wanting out because of Jose, board refusing to let them leave, seeing player power like we haven't seen in a long time. The manager with a disconnect with the fans. It's a mess pointing to a new manager next season. Jose has not handled himself properly in my opinion. You can't expect Pogba to accept praise after public ridicule for ages. We may as well not have that press adviser, she is clearly rubbish or Jose doesn't listen to her. I understand putting pressure on the board to get signings but this negative feel needs to end. I'm not sure how this will play out and if anything can be repaired. Jose needs to stop falling out with players and if he's not happy here, he should walk. The commitment from Pogba has definitely to be questioned. It feels like another reset is coming, I expect more crap to come from tomorrow's press conference.
Quotes of the new "bust up" I mean. Not hearsay, not sources, persons involved or an agent like a BBC would share. Sun is a C grade paper.
They are the biggest paper in the country. If you wanted to get a story out, they'd be among your first choices.
People hold footballers to very different standards than everybody else for some reason, i guess it's because they earn obscene money? The fact is, if my manager was criticising me publicly, and i thought it was unfair, it would actually be awful management, and you would find in the real world its not a case of "oh you can't say anything against the manager just smile and get on with it" because nobody would want to work under this manager if he does this.
I remember hearing on some football podcast or other, that if you want to know who is responsible for the leaking of a story, just look at which side gets the last word in the description of events in the story itself.
No idea if that rings true here, but it's not hard to identify the potential motivation for him getting the story out there.
No idea if that rings true here, but it's not hard to identify the potential motivation for him getting the story out there.
I'm sure He'll keep his mouth shut after being made a captain if there's no Raiola whispering to his ears whenever there's a chance of big move and big money. Jose also spoke positively about him. I doubt his issue with Jose is "unsolvable", it's all the fat man's doing.
As I said some of the criticism was warranted and I among other was on Jose's side when he benched him during the winter/spring. Pogba got distracted by whatever reason and some of the performances had no excuse, and no other responsible bar himself. After that I think they settled their differences and Pogba accepted it very professionally, like he should have.
Then comes the World Cup and those comments by Jose could have been avoided in all honesty. Whether he was right or wrong he could have been a bit more diplomatic and all of this shit storm avoided. Pogba is no Frank Lampard, and there are few footballer with the same maturity as him in today's game. Not that I like that, but it is what it is, and we knew what we were getting with Pogba, as did Jose.
You are right Jose's behavior towards Shaw has been much more scrutinizing, and I feel Shaw was treated unfairly sometimes, it's refreshing to see him taking it on the chin and not giving up. It will only make him stronger. But Pogba is no Shaw, he has much more leverage and power, therefor the way he responded this time is different.
Didn't his not enjoying quotes come out directly after captaining us vs Leicester ?
I don't disagree. I mean, what Jose said was spot on and he was no doubt trying to influence Pogba positively, which obviously backfired. A good idea would be to stop talking about him full stop. Nothing positive, nothing negative. He plays when he performs and he doesn't when he's not. But that's not going to happen..
There’s a reason they are banned even in the transfer thread. If you want believable papers, people would go to the likes of The Times and Telegraph - who do talk to people at United and get briefed when United want something out there. Not gutter press the Sun - check everywhere, here or reddit - Sun are no good.
I doubt the story has come from United - not least because they've apparently called up SkySports to deny it!
Yep.
You still wouldnt go to the Sun mind, no matter who is the one talking. People who go there have no credibility - so it's either made up or someone is a "friend of a cleaner who heard them arguing in the office next door". It's a nothing paper in sportsland.
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! I'd ban them if it were up to me.The worse part is that when he's playing for us he's not good enough but now that he wants to leave he's a god and a world cup winner to the media.
If Pogba goes... then I'm afraid I can't defend Mourinho anymore. I have always defended Mourinho where I could. The circumstances he was handed. Transfers not going his way. Rebuilding takes time... but if you let go of Pogba because you can't manage a player's ego, then I'm afraid it's over for Mourinho. You can't expect every player to have the same mentality as you'd like these days. Ferguson was great because he managed different egos differently. A deft hand for an insecure player. A firm hand for the gregarious ones. Mourinho must somehow salvage this relationship. If he cannot, then I cannot stick my neck out for him.
His reputation has undoubtedly been boosted by his World Cup showing, and it looks like he and Raiola have decided to take advantage of that by securing a move elsewhere/a bigger contract.
The good news, from our perspective anyway, is that if we don't sell in the next two weeks, he'll have no choice but to knuckle down and put in some performances, or else he'll lose those gains and drop off the Spanish giants' wishlists, thereby waving goodbye to his leverage. If anything, this whole saga might actually enhance his performances. Fingers crossed.
Nail on head. Not sure what’s worse. The scum who lie for a living and made this up or those who are hopping it’s true so they can push their narrative.
May all be Bullshit, but it is harming our club.
It's not harming anything. A couple of idiots decide to believe bullshit written in that rag, it has got absolutely no influence on the club. We'll always be talked about, negative press generates more click though but that's about it.
So do you still believe the Sun's piece of garbage article or is it the club lying to save face? You had seemed pretty convinced it was genuine.
Yeah I typed it wrong. I meant He wouldn't have said that if He had a nice guy agent, which doesn't exist in football. Can't help but to think Raiola plays a big part in this whole Barca thingy.
I believe it's well-sourced, yes. The club's denials are neither here nor there (see Custis's Twitter feed). More significant, will be Mourinho's utterances tomorrow.
Pogba takes blame if Pogba says shit. He's not a child.
I’m feeling there’s too much smoke in this story for there not to be fire. Pogba’s comments lend a lot of credibility to the story.
The reality is that we play boring, uninspiring football, and we’re not winning anything either. Why on earth would a world class player such as Pogba NOT think he could do better, especially after just being the talisman that has led his country to World Cup glory. I think some folk need to get real about this. It’s depressing but I think there’s truth in the story.
The reality is that we play boring, uninspiring football, and we’re not winning anything either. Why on earth would a world class player such as Pogba NOT think he could do better, especially after just being the talisman that has led his country to World Cup glory. I think some folk need to get real about this. It’s depressing but I think there’s truth in the story.
it's alright wanting to move to Barcelona, but I doubt they can afford what we will ask.
I don't think people are saying they 100% believe Custis, but, speaking for myself, I don't 100% believe the club either.
We aren't going to come out and say Jose and Pogba hate each other, for numerous reasons. The statement is probably trying to draw a line under an issue that will resurface at the end of the season. Which isn't going to happen as the agent in this case has been stirring stuff since Jan.
There is obliviously some substance in the Custis story, anyone who doesn't think that is kidding themselves IMO. I am well aware the story has probably been embellished slightly to get a better headline (isn't that ALL news).
Pogba added the fuel to the fire last week, he should have said nothing, and, just wait until Jose is inevitably kicked into touch.
You keep missing the point.
If something was going on the club would do their usual and ignore it. Instead they have come out and put it to bed.
Surely you see the difference. They are all getting sick of this nonsense.
Agree. As someone said earlier, the club usually doesn't comment on such things but for whatever reason they have felt the need to come out and quash this. Perhaps its due to an accumulation of rumours but more likely its due to the commercial value of Pogba and the fact he has recently been made interim captain.
We will see what Jose has to say tomorrow.
But still acts like one
I can only imagine it's a deliberate attempt to unsettle our player and club have had enough. As you say it will be an interesting press conference but fully expect Jose to come out strongly over it. Hopefully Pogba does himself and we can all move on.
I think they have TRIED to put it to bed, as it is seen as a) a distraction, and, b) we are still wide open if Barcelona make a huge bid and Pogba decides to gone 1 further than his interview last week and trys to force a move.
The window closing does put us in a vulnerable position if b) was to happen - something which JM alluded to himself a few weeks ago, saying something along the lines of English clubs will need to be strong.
I'm not suggesting PP leaves, but, we are trying to calm the situation down, as Raiola must be absolutely loving this.
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