Joking about traumatic experience and mental health should not be taken lightly because someone could take you seriously.
Dele Alli | Overlap Interview with Neville opens up on childhood trauma and mental health issues
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Good post.Banned for thisJesus wept this place
It's dangerous rhetoric to spout on here. A lot of posters on the forum struggle with their mental health and to have someone essentially diminishing it and implying Alli is lying does not make for a nice environment to post in. It's also not the first time he's had a stone age opinion on mental health. It's a private forum so we decide the rules and we have decided we don't want people like that. His warnings were for multiple offences, including insulting fellow members in the past.
What valid points did he make in your view?
So the only thing one can say is poor Alli. Questioning or simply stating there might an agenda behind it is not allowed?
We've got a live one here!
Probably the sixth time this has been explained. In a few posts we'll have another just "asking questions" about the unfair ban caused by his posts in this thread.
What agenda would this be?
Just to expand on this. We have a poster in the newbies who recently made a thread about how they were struggling. Everyone responded with kindness and empathy. His latest reply started with:
Imagine how different they might have felt if someone had come in and said it was bollocks, or that they didn't believe him? Or compared him to a serial killer ala Giflord.
I think the thing people consistently miss with this viewpoint is that this is a private forum. Its a free to use private forum. The owner and by extension, the mods are free to moderate the forum how they please and we the posters are free to stay or leave as we wish as well.
There is no innate right to post shit on redcafe.
Besides, as has been explained multiple times now, he's been banned for repeat offences, not a single post.
Indirectly, yes.
Such as?
to be fair, I'd rather have dinner with a serial killer than any Man City or Liverpool player.
What points were those?
Fair enough. For me it gets boring when these kind of things can't be discussed and questioned. It encourages critical thinking and
challenges both sides of the coin. But as you've stated it's a private forum and not all opinions have to be allowed. My mistake.
Eagerly awaiting the landmark 1,000th post
If his point was constructive and well thought out we are usually more than happy to allow discussion. But it was universally seen as a moronic post and he made things worse with every subsequent reply. We are not here to stifle debate, just to make this place enjoyable for everyone.
What things you wanted to question or you think should be questioned?
Still no reply to the question about what "valid points" were made.
After the interview, it explains a lot of his struggles, even if this does not take away from his own personal responsibility, it is still a traumatic childhood that he endured and one never knows when or how these issues will come out if not addressed early on.
Good to see him in good spirits and hopefully he can get back to his best self.
Good to see him in good spirits and hopefully he can get back to his best self.
Yeah he's circling around that like a cat around a hot mash.
I'll bite.
Isn't it a bit convient when Alli's not at the top of his game, more precise hasn't been for years, he's coming out with this kind of stuff?
Clubs in recent years would have liked to know about this before paying him millions of pounds. But because of mental health years of not even trying have to be excused? Effectively he took away the opportunity for guys who would have given everything to be at a club such as Spurs or Everton while probably knowing he wouldn't even give it a try. There should me more critical questions directed at him.
How the feck did he pass the Premier League drug tests while taking stuff? Doesn't make sense to me.
Jesus Christ.
We have another one of those - if you have a mental health problem hug a tree and you'll be all right.
Not only that he should be at fault and more critical questions should be directed at him.
Whatever comes your way now you completely deserve it with the stone age way of thinking you have.
I repeat, Jesus Christ almighty...
I can’t believe @Solius banned Moronista for one post.
Did you watch the interview? Are you claiming it isn't genuine? He explains that the reason he's coming out with it right now is because rehab/therapy has allowed him to, plus his hand was forced by the tabloids.
He was addicted to sleeping pills which the clubs themselves actually prescribe players. You clearly haven't bothered to watch it yet still come out with these backwards views
What the real shame is, Alli has the resources to get help from these rehab/therapy centres, most people suffering do not.
I'm not sure what agenda you are talking about. Dele Alli shared his struggle with mental health, abuse & addiction and you want to make judgement on him without having no idea what he has been through. As I said, traumatic experience and mental illness affects many people daily and to question their experience and make insensitive comments will only increase the stigma which will lead to more & more people suffering in silence. We should be slow to judge others. Many people will learn a valuable lesson from Dele.
Without getting into personal details I'd argue there is nothing convenient about addiction.
Also who said he didn't try? Even in the interview it was highlighted that the myth of him being lazy is exactly that, a myth.
The first question's answer is simple, he didn't want to come out with all that stuff, he was forced to it to get ahead of the story when tabloids will start having field day with it once it comes out he went for a rehab.
On your second question, what's your proof clubs didn't know? he was performing very well, went to WC with England, that means he deserved the opportunity he got because he was simply better than anyone he was competing with for that opportunity, he didn't takeaway anything from anyone else.
your arguments/critical questions are quite weak.
One thing I will say here, I also think that Alli should have personal responsibility towards himself, no one denied that, but he is still worthy of empathy and understanding.
Sorry guys, I'm potentially not going to be posting to the best of my ability for my entire Redcafe career. I have mental health. Please, let someone else post instead, it's the right thing to do.
Wow, those "valid" points were an even bigger load of horseshit than expected
Fair enough, guys. It's obvious that Alli's upbringing could've gone a lot better, however, personally for me there are a lot of excuses in there now. He's a grown man who has't been up to the task for years. But that's just me and anyone who sees it differently, fair enough.
I don't see a common denominator for either of us, therefore me thinks it's best to leave it here. I liked the Giflord and wanted to ask why he's not here anymore. Thanks for clearing that one up, that's all. Overall i'm more of a reader of this board, still like it. Peace!
I don't see a common denominator for either of us, therefore me thinks it's best to leave it here. I liked the Giflord and wanted to ask why he's not here anymore. Thanks for clearing that one up, that's all. Overall i'm more of a reader of this board, still like it. Peace!
Upbringing coul have gone better..
Being molested as a child an 'excuse'....
World gone mad.
Being molested as a child an 'excuse'....
World gone mad.
Why are people referring to him as Alli?
Thought he did not want to be known by this name years ago?
Thought he did not want to be known by this name years ago?
Why is it always the people who have like 700 posts since 2015.
"Upbringing could have gone better"
Biggest understatement I've seen in relation with someone speaking about their experience with sexual, physical and mental abuse as a kid. And following that up with discrediting that as valid excuses for him suffering with mental issues as an adult.
Well said.
Just because he's a grown man it doesn't mean he isn't still struggling with past trauma. What is the age cut off he's supposed to get over the childhood trauma he went through?
There's some debate here I really think merits a good stifling.
Once again you really do see just how thick some people are on here when the topic is actually something of weight, and not just kicking a ball about.