Dejan Lovren

I think we wont see him in Liverpool next season. Or better if we will.

Hopefully Niko Kovač will realise he shouldnt be in the first 11 of the NT too.
 
Everything going wrong for this guy :lol:

Don't know why, but I was under the impression he was left footed
 
Not sure why they bought him. He was absolute gash at times for Southampton and really didn't look like a top class centre back.
 
Not sure why they bought him. He was absolute gash at times for Southampton and really didn't look like a top class centre back.

That's revisionist bollocks.

He'll still probably be here next season and given one more chance to turn it around.
 
That's revisionist bollocks.

He'll still probably be here next season and given one more chance to turn it around.
Carragher and Neville were talking about him 2, 3 months before. He had it nice at Soton cause he had a good midfield in front of him but even there he wasnt aware of the space around him and wasnt covering the right players, now he's even more exposed. He knows how to defend but his head is always somewhere else, always looking in front of himself instead around himself.
 
That's revisionist bollocks.

He'll still probably be here next season and given one more chance to turn it around.

Not at all, to be fair. He started well at Southampton, had a very dodgy spell and finished the season well. The French contingent on here also say he was wank for Lyon. Don't rate him at all.
 
Not at all, to be fair. He started well at Southampton, had a very dodgy spell and finished the season well. The French contingent on here also say he was wank for Lyon. Don't rate him at all.
He was.

Cant wait for young Jedvaj from Bayer to step up and replace him in the NT. We lack good defenders and cant rely on the likes of Lovren.
 
He was.

Cant wait for young Jedvaj from Bayer to step up and replace him in the NT. We lack good defenders and cant rely on the likes of Lovren.

I can't say I know anything about Jedvaj but I heard he's a cracking prospect. Is he playing yet? What age?
 
but at least he had the balls to step up for the 5th penalty (even if he shouldn't have been allowed).

Maybe brave from Lovren, but baffling decision from Rodgers to allow such a mentally weak player to take his fifth penalty.
 
I honestly never understood how a professional footballer can miss a penalty, not a save but an actual miss.
 
I honestly never understood how a professional footballer can miss a penalty, not a save but an actual miss.
I honestly don't understand why people think a professional footballer can't miss a penalty. It's human error. If football was absent of human error it'd be a pretty poor form of sport. It's like wondering how an elite tennis player can't miss a serve or even a simple backhand.
 
I honestly don't understand why people think a professional footballer can't miss a penalty. It's human error. If football was absent of human error it'd be a pretty poor form of sport. It's like wondering how an elite tennis player can't miss a serve or even a simple backhand.
I don't understand how a professional footballer can commit a foul throw.
 
I honestly don't understand why people think a professional footballer can't miss a penalty. It's human error. If football was absent of human error it'd be a pretty poor form of sport. It's like wondering how an elite tennis player can't miss a serve or even a simple backhand.

Unless you slip kicking the ball you should never miss the target considering you play football for a living and are in the top 0.1% of the world. I play Sunday league, obviously no where near even dreaming about their level of professionalism but yet I've never missed the target and I don't even practice penalties, these guys do.
 
Unless you slip kicking the ball you should never miss the target considering you play football for a living and are in the top 0.1% of the world. I play Sunday league, obviously no where near even dreaming about their level of professionalism but yet I've never missed the target and I don't even practice penalties, these guys do.

Have you ever kicked a penalty in front of 40k screaming Turkish fans in a European cup knock out game ?
 
Have you ever kicked a penalty in front of 40k screaming Turkish fans in a European cup knock out game ?

1 person or 40,000 screaming, he does it every weekend he should be used of it. I've often had a hundred at games and for me its a big crowd and you'd be nervous walking on the pitch but after the whistle goes I only focus on the game, you forget that there is people there.

Of course 40k-100 is a massive difference but the same rule should apply to someone used of it.
 
History is full of much much better players missing the goal while taking a penalty. Of all the things to bitch about Lovren, that's one with the lowest priority. Next to hair cut.
 
I don't understand how a professional footballer can commit a foul throw.

Great post, I think the others missed the irony. Some players do and it's quite funny. Especially those trying to throw a short one and think a throw in is a power procedure, so they end up in some horrible configuration in compensation.

Unless you slip kicking the ball you should never miss the target considering you play football for a living and are in the top 0.1% of the world. I play Sunday league, obviously no where near even dreaming about their level of professionalism but yet I've never missed the target and I don't even practice penalties, these guys do.

I only ever took one penalty at a decent level. That day the regular pen taker was off the pitch and our player-manager pointed to me and said just focus and kick the ball sweetly. I remember placing the ball, walking away and then realising there was a lot of people watching me at that moment. It's a cliche but time does hold its breath and the goal does suddenly look smaller, although bizarrely I recall thinking this goalie is a dwarf. The best way I can describe it is compressed space in a brief moment. I didn't miss, didn't close my eyes, or fumble the kick. I came in at an angle, the goalie dived in that counter direction, but I hammered the ball at what would have been his head if he hadn't moved.

However, I can understand how things go wrong like Ronnie and Terry in Moscow. Some players in the moment make elaborate decisions beyond the simple and practical. In that regard Irwin was a professional about taking penalties and I think Rooney has the same sense not to do something stupid. But no one can gauge when a slip like Terry or an excellent save like Schmeics in the 99 semi will work against the pen taker. That being said I enjoyed LOLvren because it was for the Scouses.
 
1 person or 40,000 screaming, he does it every weekend he should be used of it. I've often had a hundred at games and for me its a big crowd and you'd be nervous walking on the pitch but after the whistle goes I only focus on the game, you forget that there is people there.

Of course 40k-100 is a massive difference but the same rule should apply to someone used of it.
That's like saying "I'm comfortable using heated pools, therefore a swimmer should be able to survive being thrown into a vat of boiling water". What you've experienced isn't comparable to what they deal with on a weekly basis.

To do anything at the highest level without any semblance of stress or pressure affecting you is so rare as almost to be a myth. It's why the (irritatingly overused) phrase "bottled it" is thrown around so freely.
 
1 person or 40,000 screaming, he does it every weekend he should be used of it. I've often had a hundred at games and for me its a big crowd and you'd be nervous walking on the pitch but after the whistle goes I only focus on the game, you forget that there is people there.

Of course 40k-100 is a massive difference but the same rule should apply to someone used of it.
It's not the same if professional footballers are to be believed. Also, if you're game relies on communication then constantly screaming fans will affect your game.
 
Unless you slip kicking the ball you should never miss the target considering you play football for a living and are in the top 0.1% of the world. I play Sunday league, obviously no where near even dreaming about their level of professionalism but yet I've never missed the target and I don't even practice penalties, these guys do.
Of course they should never miss in theory. That wasn't my point, it was that they are human so will have a moment of error at any given time. A goalkeeper should not let a backpacks through his legs, a striker shouldn't miss an open goal, a midfielder shouldn't misplace a five yard pass but these things happen quite regularly and it's not overly surprising when it does happen.

To assume a level of perfection is unrealistic. Furthermore, attributing your own experiences as evidence to support your point is flawed based on it being very different circumstances as well as it being a sample of just one - not really scientific.
 
Of course they should never miss in theory. That wasn't my point, it was that they are human so will have a moment of error at any given time. A goalkeeper should not let a backpacks through his legs, a striker shouldn't miss an open goal, a midfielder shouldn't misplace a five yard pass but these things happen quite regularly and it's not overly surprising when it does happen.

To assume a level of perfection is unrealistic. Furthermore, attributing your own experiences as evidence to support your point is flawed based on it being very different circumstances as well as it being a sample of just one - not really scientific.

Scientific analysis in a footy forum, perhaps a little ambitious.