The same way Zaha eventually will get his move?
A seven year contract means he could wait a very long time for it.
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A seven year contract means he could wait a very long time for it.
I guess you’re right. I personally think a double pivot works well for us as a concept (but players not good enough), as it means the fullbacks and the 4 up front can focus more on the attack and dont need to hold back, waste energy on running back all the time etc. Plus I believe Maguire needs it to. Ring out his strengths and protect us from his weaknesses. His best games have been in that kind of setup. With Rice it would just mean controlling the midfield better, playing more progressively, and allowing both DMs to join attack more often. I should say I’m not an expert in Rice’s strengths and weaknesses, but I’ve been impressed from what I’ve seen.
Sit him next to a playmaker like how Keane and Scholes used to compliment each other we’ve got gold.
Not under the current manager though. Ole isn’t helping us control any game as boss. A playmaker and Rice will be perfect when the team plays more as a unit (different tactics - different manager).
Can even just use VDB next to him who might be able to string the shorter passes together and control tempo.
Not under the current manager though. Ole isn’t helping us control any game as boss. A playmaker and Rice will be perfect when the team plays more as a unit (different tactics - different manager).
Can even just use VDB next to him who might be able to string the shorter passes together and control tempo.
Pogba will likely be gone before we see how well he does with Rice in a midfield two IMO. If anything we'd probably see him in a two with McTominay.
This is what I’ve been saying for at least a year or so, Rice is a pure out and out defensive midfielder who’s sole job and best role is simply shielding the defence and allowing other players to go forward.
Yes he plays in a two man midfield with Soucek but Soucek always has licence to go forward and is always safe in doing so because of Rice behind him so Pogba could do the same but even better because Pogba is a far better player than Soucek, having Rice in front of Varane and Maguire would create a 4-3-3 that could basically be a back 5 and front 5 with a higher line but it’s if Ole has the balls to play a 4-3-3 even though he’d have the players.
I think a starting 11 of De Gea, AWB, Varane, Maguire, Shaw, Fernandes, Rice, Pogba, Greenwood, Ronaldo and Rashford with Henderson, Lindelof, Tuanzebe, Telles, McTominay, Fred, VDB, Sancho, Diallo and Martial in reserve is perfectly balanced as a squad but again it’d be whether Ole could get it right tactically which I unfortunately don’t think he can.
Rice and Bellingham together would be nice
Your comparing a one trick pony who can’t get a move from Palace for love or money and one of England’s most promising young midfielders who’s an international and rather coveted IIRC.
Yeah it compares with Zaha
Being English has nothing to do with it.He just isn't that good. He is the English Morgan Schneiderlin.
I have to admit that he looks to have added more to his passing and overall game this season.
If he keeps it up, Chelsea might actually take him back.
If he keeps it up, Chelsea might actually take him back.
Fabrizio Romano was a guest today in Rio's podcast today on "vibe with five" and he said there that United's targets are obviously Rice, Neves and Tsouameni
Zaha has had, and probably still has, more value than rice.
Has being the operative word
Zaha has stagnated whereas rice is on the up. So I don’t agree that zaha has more value
Never get why Zaha has ever been rated so highly. His highest goal tally is 11 (last season), in a team where he is the main man. I'm not the biggest Rice fan, but it's quite clear Rice has played at a much higher level than Zaha ever did at his age.
Not often you see Keane praise a player. Yet fans here have a special taste.
The point is that big clubs actually wanted to sign him and were priced out because Zaha signed a long contract with a club that didn't need to sell.
Yet there are posters here claiming Rice's seven year contract is totally different. Apparently because Rice is better?
The more he improves and gets praise the more I think Chelsea or City will just pay the top dollar under the current climate of no ffp.
Someone will meet a compromise with WH
To quote Fergie “there’s no doot abou tha”
Please, you're killing me.Rice come to our party. Bring a friend
I need him.
Just scored for West Ham
"The English Morgan Schneiderlin" according to some on here.
Clueless.
"The English Morgan Schneiderlin" according to some on here.
Clueless.
I think our window of opportunity passed. He'll end up at Chelsea and do brilliantly.
He’s scored 5 goals or something everJust scored for West Ham
"The English Morgan Schneiderlin" according to some on here.
Clueless.
Rapid Vienna are an amazing team tbf... better even than Zagreb!
Quality player no question.
Defensively sound, with that has a great sense of danger
Good positional sense.
Athletic.
Always shows for the ball.
Is getting forward a lot more and has added more to his game
Still 22yrs old with plenty scope for improvement
A leader
A Midfielder
nah dont need him
Defensively sound, with that has a great sense of danger
Good positional sense.
Athletic.
Always shows for the ball.
Is getting forward a lot more and has added more to his game
Still 22yrs old with plenty scope for improvement
A leader
A Midfielder
nah dont need him
He scored so? He’s the best thing since slice bread. Get out of here with your English hype, always hyping English players like they are the next best thing.Just scored for West Ham
"The English Morgan Schneiderlin" according to some on here.
Clueless.
100 million player my bum
ingerland number one
Looks the part doesn’t he
He is getting better and better.
For all the things he’d bring which are so badly lacking in our CM, we have to get this guy.
For all the things he’d bring which are so badly lacking in our CM, we have to get this guy.
Not to piss on everyone's chips, but they're second from bottom of the Austrian Bundesliga
Another solid performance from the lad tonight.
I just don't know how people can watch him and call him average. He'd be our most consistent midfielder if he was playing for us, and I'm including Pogba and Bruno in that.
I just don't know how people can watch him and call him average. He'd be our most consistent midfielder if he was playing for us, and I'm including Pogba and Bruno in that.
But it's ok when raving about all these foreign players in farmer leagues.
Not sure people are rating him off one game….
This is the problem. People like you are blinded by his price tag. Come away from that a bit if you can, and judge him based on the way he plays. If so, I find it hard to believe you don't think he's a good player.
No? Am I doing that?
No, I appreciate people rate him for more than just this game. Just find it odd that people would use this game as a good reinforcement of their view.
So why mention the league and position of the team? He can only play what's in front of him!
This
He is already a superb player and he is adding goals to his game as a CDM. He will be a 10+ goals a season player, and has at least 10 years ahead of him. What value do you put on this potential?
Oh, and he will be England captain in 3 years time.
Because it's relevant when people run to this page to affirm their view, after a game against a proper shite team.
I'm not hugely enamoured with him, especially not at the price, but I can see his obvious qualities. I just wouldn't be holding up a game against a team as bad as that as proof of his qualities.
Guarantee he will never score 10+ goals and no way will he be England captain in 3 years.
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